GUILTY MA - Aaron Hernandez, New England Patriots player, charged with homicides #3

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  • #801
Travis Andersen
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Garsh to jury: Brecher testimony had "limited purpose" of rebutting what Greenblatt testified re: his understanding of '88 article
 
  • #802
Brian Fraga @BfragaHN
Charles Rankin on cross exam

Travis Andersen
@TAGlobe

Brecher: 3 criteria to judge cases in '88 article

Travis Andersen
@TAGlobe

CR: criteria: 1]did person attempt to commit violent act 2]was PCP documented in blood/urine3]presence of other drugs, esp booze, ruled out
 
  • #803
Travis Andersen
@TAGlobe

Brecher says he agrees that PCP psychosis is well recognized, ie disorientation, hallucination, paranoia

Brian Fraga
@BfragaHN

Rankin pressing witness to concede paranoia, 'acute symptoms' of brain syndrome associated w/PCP use#AaronHernandez

Travis Andersen
@TAGlobe

Brecher: "to some extent" PCP intoxicated patient may not be restrained by pain , could seem to have extraordinary strength
 
  • #804
Brian Fraga
@BfragaHN

Rankin saying witness has written in article that someone on PCP can be in state where they can inflict pain/injury#AaronHernandez

Travis Andersen
@TAGlobe

Brecher to Rankin: he wrote hyperactivity also induced by PCP use
Apr. 6, 2015

Travis Andersen
@TAGlobe

Brecher to Rankin: wrote failure to meet criteria "does not prove" that PCP use does not induce violence

Travis Andersen
@TAGlobe

Brecher to Rankin: other substances besides PCP dont count per study, self-inflicted wounds dont count
 
  • #805
Travis Andersen
@TAGlobe

Brecher to Rankin: he wrote PCP psychosis diff from criminal behavior

Travis Andersen
@TAGlobe

Brecher tells Rankin: PCP does not induce violence among people not predisposed to violence

Brian Fraga
@BfragaHN

On re-direct, witness says Rankin left out parts of his article on cross exam#AaronHernandez
 
  • #806
Travis Andersen
@TAGlobe

Brecher to Bomberg: he wrote in article that PCP psychosis lasts for weeks, days

Travis Andersen
@TAGlobe

Brecher to Bomberg: talking in article about PCP psychosis lasting for weeks, days

Brian Fraga
@BfragaHN

Bomberg asking a lot of questions that defense is objecting to, and Garsh sustaining them#AaronHernandez

Travis Andersen
@TAGlobe

Brecher to Bomberg: article lists symptoms of PCP psychosis, def objection sustained when asked if symptoms are observable

Travis Andersen
@TAGlobe

Brecher to Bomberg: Article said PCP psychosis lasts from hours to weeks
 
  • #807
d About Trial
@WildAboutTrial

It is getting testy in here at the end. Rankin and Bomberg butting heads (figuratively) over what statements get in. #AaronHernandez -RK
 
  • #808
So 'what the heck' with all the PCP talk? Are they going to say AH was doing pcp now? When are they going to say that--in the closing?
 
  • #809
Travis Andersen
@TAGlobe

Brecher to Bomberg: article says PCP psychosis diff to manage but different from criminal behavior

ravis Andersen
@TAGlobe

Brecher to Bomberg: found PCP does not provoke violence in people not predisposed to violence

ravis Andersen
@TAGlobe

Brecher to Rankin: PCP psychosis can last for weeks

Brian Fraga
@BfragaHN

End of redirect. Rankin on recross, notes witness wrote PCP psychosis can last weeks#AaronHernandez
 
  • #810
Travis Andersen
@TAGlobe

Brecher to Rankin: article did not discuss lab tests for PCP in urine or blood

Brian Fraga
@BfragaHN

Garsh sustaining prosecution objects to Rankin asking about blood/urine tests time frame for picking up PCP#AaronHernandez

Travis Andersen
@TAGlobe

Brecher steps down, attys back to sidebar
Apr. 6, 2015
 
  • #811
I HOPE that the DT is going to say that AH was on pcp when Lloyd was murdered. Because that admission and a cup of coffee will get you LWOP. :jail:
 
  • #812
Brian Fraga
@BfragaHN

Sidebar breaks. No further rebuttal witnesses form prosecution or defense #AaronHernandez

we are done people!!!!!!!!!!! woooooohoooooo

:cheer:

Jenny Wilson
@jennydwilson

“No further rebuttal witnesses, the commonwealth rests,” ADA McCauley says after 132 witnesses #AaronHernandez

Brian Fraga
@BfragaHN

Garsh tells jury to keep open mind still, closing argumetns/instructions still are yet to be done#AaronHernandez
Apr. 6, 2015

jury being sent home for the day...........back at 9 for closing arguments :cheer:
 
  • #813
So 'what the heck' with all the PCP talk? Are they going to say AH was doing pcp now? When are they going to say that--in the closing?

carlos ortiz tested positive for pcp when he was arrested and they are going to say he shot odin lloyd........i betcha a coke, just wait for it :D

idiots........

those blunts were laced with it......so they don't think ah was on it too? wth are they thinking even bringing it up??? i can't believe the defense decided to go this route..... they are no johnny cochran that's for sure
 
  • #814
wow. The DT would have been better off by just resting and saying the state didnt prove their case. The case the DT set forward was very pathetic. jmo
 
  • #815
carlos ortiz tested positive for pcp when he was arrested and they are going to say he shot odin lloyd........i betcha a coke, just wait for it :D

idiots........

those blunts were laced with it......so they don't think ah was on it too? wth are they thinking even bringing it up??? i can't believe the defense decided to go this route..... they are no johnny cochran that's for sure

If they are going to use that as a defense, imo, they should have put AH up there to say what happened. He could have told that bogus story and thrown Ortiz under the moving bus. But now they can only set it forth in their closing. And closing statements are not considered 'evidence' IIRC.

I bet the jurors are wondering that too.
 
  • #816
Brian Fraga
@BfragaHN

Garsh: #AaronHernandez telling police they weren't welcome in his house on 6/17/13 cannot be cited as evidence of consciousness of guilt
 
  • #817
susan candiotti cnn
@susancandiotti

#AaronHernandez Judge now saying jury will be told aaron hernandez not obligated to "share any info he may have had" w/cops re Lloyd'sdeath
Apr. 6, 2015
 
  • #818
susan candiotti cnn
@susancandiotti

#AaronHernandez All this is part of what can/can't be part of closing arguments and jury instructions

Brian Fraga
@BfragaHN

We're done for the day. #AaronHernandez tells his relatives, 'I love you guys' as he leaves courtroom. Closing arguments tomorrow
 
  • #819
lordy lordy who would have thought this day would finally arrive.........closing arguments tomorrow! :cheer:

of course i have hive demands tomorrow morning :mad: so thank goodness for this thread that i keep open 24/7 :floorlaugh:......i'll be anxious to catch up upon returning.....busy busy bee :D

:rose: for odin
:rose: for his mom and family and his best girl..they have stood so strong, god love 'em all :heartbeat:

aaron you psycho you..........if they don't get you this round buddy.....they'll get you next round......

you're goin' down :furious: :jail: :furious: you can bet on it :yes:

see everyone tomorrow :seeya:
 
  • #820
If this jury doesn't find him guilty I will flip..Nothing at all from the defense.
 
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