MA - Aaron Hernandez, New England Patriots player, charged with homicides #6

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  • #861
anyone have a clue why a group of 5 attorneys for the defense cannot seem to even serve a subpoena in a timely manner??? I know that is what Judge Locke was thinking as he dealt with that this morning.
 
  • #862
Niner said:
So, what do you all think?

Get all paper work together, have a nice lunch and then verdict today?? :thinking:
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I'd even get excited about a jury question right about now... :blushing:
 
  • #863
Niner said:
So, what do you all think?

Get all paper work together, have a nice lunch and then verdict today?? :thinking:
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probably as I have to be gone this afternoon. I think it almost has to be today...but the length of the deliberation has me really wondering about all of them agreeing on anything.
 
  • #864
scorpio24 said:
I'd even get excited about a jury question right about now... :blushing:
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agree..i expect a question or a note that things are not going well.
 
  • #865
Niner said:
Picture from yesterday
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Disgusting.

I have a question for you all who are good at trials.

Is life without parole really just that in Massachusetts? I think I remember criminals getting out on that sentance but they might have been juviniles at the time of the crime??
 
  • #866
rewatching AB testimony...I am beginning to wonder if not immunizing AB but calling him as a witness and let the jury watch him lie and tried this as joint venture if we would not have a verdict by now and AB will served all his time as he should.
 
  • #867
Would they have to leave if the Jury had a question or a verdict? They already have a story to tell just being in the courtroom. *AH is not in the courtroom.

[video=twitter;852522407063683073]https://twitter.com/Laurel_Sweet/status/852522407063683073[/video]

Laurel J. Sweet‏Verified account
@Laurel_Sweet
Judge Locke has welcomed a group of young students to his courtroom and is getting them up to speed on #AaronHernandez jury. Very sweet.
 
  • #868
The Farm said:
Disgusting.

I have a question for you all who are good at trials.

Is life without parole really just that in Massachusetts? I think I remember criminals getting out on that sentance but they might have been juviniles at the time of the crime??
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If someone is convicted of first degree murder in MA, it is life without the possibility of parole... no chances for parole. AH was convicted of first degree murder for OL. Yes, different for juveniles.

https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartIV/TitleI/Chapter265/Section2

Section 2. (a) Except as provided in subsection (b), any person who is found guilty of murder in the first degree shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for life and shall not be eligible for parole pursuant to section 133A of chapter 127.
 
  • #869
turaj said:
rewatching AB testimony...I am beginning to wonder if not immunizing AB but calling him as a witness and let the jury watch him lie and tried this as joint venture if we would not have a verdict by now and AB will served all his time as he should.
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I rewatched it over the weekend. AB clearly lied many times. And jmho especially after that last question, the Jury is going over his testimony. If not, why so long? AB was the CW "star witness". In Baez cross, he got entered about AB saying he didnt know $ht about what happen in Boston. Then goes up to Boston and gets immunity. Did he not realize they had him on camera? Guess not.
 
  • #870
[video=twitter;852529574957248516]https://twitter.com/bostonTVguy/status/852529574957248516[/video]
 
  • #871
arkansasmimi said:
I rewatched it over the weekend. AB clearly lied many times. And jmho especially after that last question, the Jury is going over his testimony. If not, why so long? AB was the CW "star witness". In Baez cross, he got entered about AB saying he didnt know $ht about what happen in Boston. Then goes up to Boston and gets immunity. Did he not realize they had him on camera? Guess not.
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so to my point I think the immunity was a waste and if this ends in a hung jury then everyone loses here...AB should have more prison time and are they really going to try this again? Guess it depends on the split. Clearly they are dissecting the AB testimony and that could honestly put anyone in an extreme state of confusion...I mean truthful vs accurate...I am still working on that one!!
 
  • #872
Well, all Travis has twitted was about an hour ago:

Travis Anderson @TAGlobe
#AaronHernandez defense sought #Belichick as a witness in the double murder trial.


Wondering "why" he tweet on the students there??!!

I'm busy on another thread (Alycia Yeoman) missing Timeline. So keeping an eye on his Tweets!
 
  • #873
turaj said:
so to my point I think the immunity was a waste and if this ends in a hung jury then everyone loses here...AB should have more prison time and are they really going to try this again? Guess it depends on the split. Clearly they are dissecting the AB testimony and that could honestly put anyone in an extreme state of confusion...I mean truthful vs accurate...I am still working on that one!!
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JMHO from what I saw at trial (evidence, testimony) I know that AB not charged as he has immunity... but jmho I not convinced AB not the shooter or that AH is the shooter. Big time reasonable doubt because AB proved through his own testimony he is a liar, and immunity saved his own self from being charged.
 
  • #874
Niner said:
Well, all Travis has twitted was about an hour ago:

Travis Anderson @TAGlobe
#AaronHernandez defense sought #Belichick as a witness in the double murder trial.


Wondering "why" he tweet on the students there??!!

I'm busy on another thread (Alycia Yeoman) missing Timeline. So keeping an eye on his Tweets!
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I think I saw one Tweet from Travis saying he was going to go check on another trial next door or on same floor but would be back. I will see if can find. Maybe he wasn't back when kids came in?
OK here is where I was speaking of
Travis Andersen‏Verified account @TAGlobe 1h1 hour ago
ducking out for a moment to check on a case next door but the live-tweets from the #AaronHernandez verdict watch should continue shortly

[video=twitter;852514371926360064]https://twitter.com/TAGlobe/status/852514371926360064[/video]
 
  • #875
27 hrs
[video=twitter;852536906109915136]https://twitter.com/Laurel_Sweet/status/852536906109915136[/video]
 
  • #876
hate to say this but I see an Allen Charge in the near future here.
 
  • #877
Waiting for this verdict has become as exciting as watching grass grow! Even Travis has given up tweeting about an open window, etc. But we are all still here...

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This was from 2013. Guess it was part of her immunity deal, as she is still standing by 'her man'...

Aaron Hernandez, the former NFL star charged with the murder of Odin Lloyd, will not be allowed to marry his fiancee, Shayanna Jenkins, Bristol County Sheriff Thomas Hodgson said Tuesday.

It has been suggested that the marriage could be a legal strategy, since it might shield Jenkins from testifying against Hernandez under Massachusetts law.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/03/shayanna-jenkins-aaron-hernandez-marry_n_3541312.html
 
  • #878
Travis Anderseon @TAGlobe

8 mins ago
back in 906 as #AaronHernandez deliberations continue--was covering a plea next door for a bit

6 mins ago
clerks are chatting right now in 906. a court officer is on a landline #AaronHernandez
 
  • #879
BUF said:
If someone is convicted of first degree murder in MA, it is life without the possibility of parole... no chances for parole. AH was convicted of first degree murder for OL. Yes, different for juveniles.

https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartIV/TitleI/Chapter265/Section2

Section 2. (a) Except as provided in subsection (b), any person who is found guilty of murder in the first degree shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for life and shall not be eligible for parole pursuant to section 133A of chapter 127.
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Thanks buf, just wanted to make sure!!
 
  • #880
Travis Andersen @TAGlobe
15 mins ago
some members of #AaronHernandez DOC escort just exited courtroom, another CO in the group is talking w/court officer

15 mins ago
Shayanna enters w/another young woman -- she does not have her daughter with her today. #AaronHernandez

7 mins ago
Shayanna now flanked by two young women who have accompanied her to court over the last few days #AaronHernandez

1 min ago
three clerks chatting right now in 906. One of the Souza COs still talking with the court officer #AaronHernandez
 
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