Still Missing MA - Ana Walshe, 39, allegedly left home, may have been dismembered, Cohasset, Jan 2023 *husband indicted* #4

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Judge giving final instructions.
 
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You guys.... there is no way anyone is ever going to convince me, ever, that chopping up a body is something that anyone does casually or takes lightly. Let alone that it's a HUMAN body and that of someone you LOVE (as the defense belabored). It's not like you do it in 5 seconds and without thinking about it. I sat on a jury about 20 years ago, one where a murderer dismembered a body. Supposedly because that guy killed someone in self defense and then panicked. We got to hear in waaaay too much detail that it isn't a simple process. It isn't quick. I can't comprehend how anyone can do that to another HUMAN. That is not a panic response. Can you even imagine taking another human being into your basement and using tools to cut. them. apart....?!? No, of course you can't!

I'm sorry, but this would be laughable if it wasn't so devastating, gruesome, and just plain horrific.
 
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You know judges renind counsel to remain within 20 minutes of court during deliberation (so they can return quickly to the courtroom for a verdict)?

I'm imagining this judge telling everyone to just sit tight, this won't be long.

JMO
 
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I'm really okay with Murder 1 or 2 here.

I don't think he was planning to kill her until shortly before he killed her, only because I think he thought she was having an affair but not that she was going to leave him, until.

Whatever caused her death was violent... and THAT tells me he Could Have Stopped. Rendered aid. Instead he proceeded. And to me, that's enough consideration to call it premeditated. Grave bodily harm, intent to kill.

She did die (relatively) suddenly but not accidentally.

I won't be surprised if a verdict is returned in under 3 hours.

JMO
 
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These jury instructions are long.
 
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I'm really okay with Murder 1 or 2 here.

I don't think he was planning to kill her until shortly before he killed her, only because I think he thought she was having an affair but not that she was going to leave him, until.

Whatever caused her death was violent... and THAT tells me he Could Have Stopped. Rendered aid. Instead he proceeded. And to me, that's enough consideration to call it premeditated. Grave bodily harm, intent to kill.

She did die (relatively) suddenly but not accidentally.

I won't be surprised if a verdict is returned in under 3 hours.

JMO
My window of time is between 1:45-2:20 but I agree under 3 hours.
 
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I'm really okay with Murder 1 or 2 here.

I don't think he was planning to kill her until shortly before he killed her, only because I think he thought she was having an affair but not that she was going to leave him, until.

Whatever caused her death was violent... and THAT tells me he Could Have Stopped. Rendered aid. Instead he proceeded. And to me, that's enough consideration to call it premeditated. Grave bodily harm, intent to kill.

She did die (relatively) suddenly but not accidentally.

I won't be surprised if a verdict is returned in under 3 hours.

JMO
I am too. Any murder charge, along with his guilty pleas and art fraud, will lock him up for a very long time.
 
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I like this judge, but she is wordy.
 
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Just taking a guess that the only real discussion will be deciding between murder 1 or 2.
 
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Did this Judge pick the foreman of the jury like our esteemed Judge Canone did? I guess I missed it....been watching but miss stuff at times
 
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Did this Judge pick the foreman of the jury like our esteemed Judge Canone did? I guess I missed it....been watching but miss stuff at times
Have never seen a judge pick the foreman except cannone but looks like that's what this judge did too
 
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Dang it, she DID just pick the foreperson....I was hoping that was a Canone special but guess not.
 
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My window of time is between 1:45-2:20 but I agree under 3 hours.

They may chat freely over lunch but then get down to business after lunch. Work through any differences of thought. Then do due diligence to see if there are holes to poke in their consensus.

He intended her death.

That's all that really matters.

JMO
 
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I get a very strong Jackie O vibe from this judge.

If she picks a foreman and that juror absolutely doesn't want the responsibility, are you allowed to say No?
 
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