MA - Bella Bond, 2, found dead, Deer Island, Boston Harbor, June 2015 - #4

[Bootsctr]

Family money. No way is an attorney like Shapiro on the PD list.

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Interesting! So, he got Muhammad Ali off of desertion charges? Didn't he change his name and convert to Islam to avoid the Vietnam war?

Apparently MM isn't going down with a fight. Lawyer saying definitely pleading NOT GUILTY.

There are some interesting tweets by the ladies who wrote the article for the globe that BeStill posted. I just followed their accounts hoping I don't miss anything in the morning!

 

[Whiteorchids]

I can't stand nor have any respect for private defense attorney's who climb out of their dirty holes to happily represent trash baby killers pro bono for fame. Does Jose Baez, Cheney Mason ring a bell? How can they sleep at night especially with kids or grandkids? Oh that's right its their job. Lame excuse.

 

[wondering25]

I doubt if it has a thing to do with Occupy. They were homeless and taking advantage of a situation, I feel. I doubt if they had any philosophical things to contribute,

I bet it was free food and someplace to stay other than a shelter which segregates males and females.

Are the attorneys in some kind of rotation where they provide free services because they are so well established and money is not an issue?

Rotation usually happens in DP cases.. no DP in Mass. Shapiro is a legend in Mass. and well into his 70s i would imagine.. RB's lawyer says in the clip posted earlier that she likes being a public defender.. so she may be one who does PD work and also has a private practice. Even if you are court appointed ( and have a private practice).. you get paid.. not an hourly rate of 500 or better that you would get from a private client but you get paid by the state. In Shapiro's case i am going to bet he was privately hired..JMO

Anything i write is my opinion only.

 

[mrsward]

"Bond said her boyfriend killed bella because he thought she was possessed

Reminding her constantly AFTER the murder that bella was a "child of satan"


No remorse then ? That's not insanity , that's just twisted ,sick and really hard for me to stomach .



http://www.**************/2434982/bella-bond-baby-doe-was-murdered-for-being-child-of-satan/


:maddening:

 

[Bootsctr]

If is true about them putting the child in the refrigerator or freezer for weeks or months they knew what they had done was wrong. They know they are guilty. I think defense attorneys are kind of a necessary evil...

The Shapiro lawyer looks like <modsnip>

 

[human]

Rotation usually happens in DP cases.. no DP in Mass. Shapiro is a legend in Mass. and well into his 70s i would imagine.. RB's lawyer says in the clip posted earlier that she likes being a public defender.. so she may be one who does PD work and also has a private practice. Even if you are court appointed ( and have a private practice).. you get paid.. not an hourly rate of 500 or better that you would get from a private client but you get paid by the state. In Shapiro's case i am going to bet he was privately hired..JMO

Anything i write is my opinion only.

I wonder if things are so quiet about MM because of connection and money.

The case is so disgusting I have to wonder if it a close friend of Shapiro that asked him to take it,

A case like this will take major money.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

Interesting! So, he got Muhammad Ali off of desertion charges? Didn't he change his name and convert to Islam to avoid the Vietnam war?

Apparently MM isn't going down with a fight. Lawyer saying definitely pleading NOT GUILTY.

There are some interesting tweets by the ladies who wrote the article for the globe that BeStill posted. I just followed their accounts hoping I don't miss anything in the morning!

How old would Shapiro be in '71? I imagine there were a lot of attorneys working for Ali's case...How big of a role did he have? Especially if he was fresh out of law school?

 

[Amonet]

I found this comment on Wikipedia:

Should it be pointed in the article that once again, forensic facial artists made the recon of a female victim a lot more idealised/prettier/cuter than the human reality?

The person didn't mince words, and I thought about rephrasing it myself, but I figured I would just quote him. Do you agree and if so, do you think it was done on purpose?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Murder_of_Bella_Bond

I don't agree at all. The pictures of Bella show she was absolutely adorable. I do think most children of that age are adorable though, they have qualities that we tend to find naturally cute and attractive, the bright eyes, button nose, chubby cheeks, and it is those things that stand out as pretty in the composite, but compare the composite to Bella you can clearly see those shapes come from her face, they're not made up. I think that considering decomposition that it's an amazing recreation.

Someone mentioned a few pages back, though, that the families and friends must have been really stupid to not recognize Bella in that composite. Whenever I went to a news site in the early days of the story, the comment sections had about 10% or more of the comments asking, "if they don't know who she is, how did they get a photo of her?" So a significant number of people probably were expecting that it was a photographic likeness rather than an indication of hair color, eye color and shape, and a rough guide to the shape of the face and the question of whether that rings bells with a child of similar appearance that's not been seen for months without any good reason.

I think it might have been a good idea to release the composite with some pencil sketches, or maybe with a few different skin tones or just small variations on the theme to help people understand that it was just a composite guide and not a photograph.

 

[Bravo]

Covering up the crime shows they were both very aware of right and wrong.

 

[human]

Interesting! So, he got Muhammad Ali off of desertion charges? Didn't he change his name and convert to Islam to avoid the Vietnam war?

Apparently MM isn't going down with a fight. Lawyer saying definitely pleading NOT GUILTY.

There are some interesting tweets by the ladies who wrote the article for the globe that BeStill posted. I just followed their accounts hoping I don't miss anything in the morning!

O/t. He is the greatest. He was willing to give up everything for what is right.


"My conscience won't let me go shoot my brother or some darker people or some poor, hungry people in the mud for big, powerful America. And shoot them for what? They never called me ******, they never lynched me, they didn't put no dogs on me, they didn't rob me of my nationality, rape and kill my mother and father. Shoot them for what? How can I shoot them poor people? Poor little black people and babies and children and women. How can I shoot them poor people? Just take me to jail." — Muhammad Ali


Lots of great quotes

https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali

 

[joypath]

IMO, if there were any drugs in her system, they would have shown up during autopsy.

BBM:

While that is often true, there are some drugs that will not "show up" on routine screening tests. This is due to the drug's half-life, t 1/2 is explained as the amount of time that it takes for the drug to loose half of its concentration within the body and eventual clearance from the body. Since the drug in question is heroin, the half life of that is less than 10 minutes! Heroin however does "break down" into a metabolite, morphine which has a longer half-life of hours (that's a drug that can be detected in a screening method).

CONFUSED YET????? Well, add the incidental factors of body mass, weight, amount of drug, dosage frequency and personal metabolism and it becomes even less predictable for the window of detection!

Now it might make more sense why a heroin addict needs frequent fixes: the "heroin happy" leaves rather quickly!


Given that it is now known that the drug of choice is/was heroin, I'm assuming that her hair has been tested (or perhaps it already was based on the high probability that her caregiver(s) were part of the invasive, current epidemic)! Detection from hair samples can be upto 90 days or so.

 

[sfbaynancydrew]

I found an older FB page of Rachelle Bond. Her only friend was also her friend on her now deleted page. Wish more was open, it seems to go back years.

https://www.facebook.com/rachelle.bond.3

 

[heartgoesout]

I am so far behind. I don't even know where to begin to catch up.

 

[Bravo]

I am so far behind. I don't even know where to begin to catch up.

See post #723. EffyElsewhere has done a great summation of highlights

 

[lisette]

O/t. He is the greatest. He was willing to give up everything for what is right.


"My conscience won't let me go shoot my brother or some darker people or some poor, hungry people in the mud for big, powerful America. And shoot them for what? They never called me ******, they never lynched me, they didn't put no dogs on me, they didn't rob me of my nationality, rape and kill my mother and father. Shoot them for what? How can I shoot them poor people? Poor little black people and babies and children and women. How can I shoot them poor people? Just take me to jail." &#8212; Muhammad Ali


Lots of great quotes

He sure didn't seem to mind enjoying the benefits of being a citizen of that "big, powerful America" did he? Don't want to get too far o/t but just had to say that&#8230;JMO

 

[heartgoesout]

I'm up to date on what's going on but I do like to read others opinions and remarks. That will take days to go back and read. I'm so incredibly saddened for Bella that I'm not sure I can go back.

The awful cliche, it is what it is. Druggie mother, disgusting boyfriend, welfare freebies, a defunct children's agency, absentee father with a rap sheet, no relatives... The human race failed her.

On some level Bella is better off playing with the other baby angels. She's safe and no more tears.

 

[heartgoesout]

So one thing we have learned is that an artist's rendering should have different skin colorings.

 

[Bravo]

A bit of info on MM

http://www.bostonherald.com/news_op...mer_neighbor_recalls_accused_s_troubled_times

 

[heartgoesout]

I'm so far behind so I apologize if this has been discussed. Were the trees "privet hedges and cedar-of-Lebanon" that were mentioned in the pollen analysis on Maxwell Street where she lived?

 

[fizzypop]

I can't stand nor have any respect for private defense attorney's who climb out of their dirty holes to happily represent trash baby killers pro bono for fame. Does Jose Baez, Cheney Mason ring a bell? How can they sleep at night especially with kids or grandkids? Oh that's right its their job. Lame excuse.

Cheney Mason is especially not concerned about Casey in regard to his grandkids since as of the last update I read it was quite clearly implied that she was living at his home with him and his wife and doing some light clerical work for him to make some money.

So one thing we have learned is that an artist's rendering should have different skin colorings.

I didn't think her skin color was off as much as they eyebrows and hair color, and maybe even eye color. Those were the things that pointed to her being part Hispanic, which they did state she could be. As far as I know that is not something that can be determined by DNA, it's something people self-report.