MA - Bella Bond, 2, found dead, Deer Island, Boston Harbor, June 2015 - #5

[Bravo]

I don't see why anyone would need a contractor's bag for a 30 lb body. They are tough bags meant for holding debris from work sites, they are also much more expensive than regular trash bags. Regular trash bags would have worked just as well, I think the contactor bags were picked up somewhere (at the complex?) or otherwise lying around.

Exactly. Apparently handy tho if one needs to weigh down and dispose a childs body

 

[oceanblueeyes]

According to the complaint, police interviewed McCarthy on Friday, and he told them that Bond had said the state took Bella sometime around Easter. He didn't know the details, the complaint said, but he called Bond "a good mother" and described Bella's living conditions as "safe and appropriate."

When police told him that his story differed from Bond's, McCarthy said Bond might be trying to "save her own ass," denied having anything to do with Bella's death and requested a lawyer.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/21/us/boston-baby-doe-charges/

EASTER! McCarthy is saying Bond told him the state took Bella at Easter. Wow! These people are nuts!!!

Hi there my friend!

Honestly, I will repeat what I posted earlier. I wouldn't believe Rachelle Bond if I saw with my own eyes her tongue being notarized . I am stunned that the DA seems to be buying her lies although I shouldn't be. Yes, I do believe she is lying in everything she has supposedly said. If what she said was truthful there would be evidence of it yet there isn't evidence to support her claims.... in fact the autopsy shows she is lying. If Bella truly had been punched so hard by McCarthy to cause her death the ME would have seen trauma to her internal organs and there would be exterior bruising as well because she wouldn't die right away. So where is the evidence to support her claim? It isn't there but it wouldn't be the first time a DA believed the female scum over the male scum involved.

What he says makes a lot more sense to me than what she has said.

Imo, this is my theory of what happened. Just a theory and nothing more.

She, according to her own family member, was known as a very angry woman. She also was locking Bella in the closet too from what I have read. We already know she was a very neglectful 'mom.' I believe Bond saw Bella as a burden she didn't want to carry but she did want the welfare money she got for Bella. A two year old toddler needs attention continuously when they aren't sleeping, and that cut into her time of doing drugs, staying stoned, and having sex. I think she once again became angry at Bella that day for some stupid nonsensical reason and she hit Bella in anger, and then got even angrier because Bella wouldn't stop crying. So I think SHE smothered her to death. IMO

It is such an injustice and a slap in the face to Bella for her mom to get away with the horrible things she has done. RB needs to go to prison for the rest of her life and that still wouldn't make up for the unforgivable things she did to her own totally innocent little girl.

I have long felt even before this case happened there are men sitting in prison right now for a murder against a child that the female in the home committed. Its just easier to believe that a man is the bad one and a much easier sell to a jury for the Prosecutors.

IMO

 

[cvaldez1975]

siommy torres.

Yes, that was the neighbor with a small child. I will look because she's the one I wondered why she didn't contact CPS when Bella suddenly went silent after hearing her crying and running through the house for months. What did she hear the night of the so-called exorcism?? Will she come forward now and say something now that they are both in jail?

:findinglink:

 

[cvaldez1975]

the godmother hadnt seen her since then because she and RB had a falling out.

The godmother said the last time she saw Bella was March 12th IIRC. The neighbor didnt gave a date but I think she said a few months or something like that because they shared an apartment wall and she hadnt heard her. moo

 

[seattlechiquita]

Ok, finally getting around to watch the hearing online. I'm sure I will regret it.

 

[Whiteorchids]

The godmother said the last time she saw Bella was March 12th IIRC. The neighbor didnt gave a date but I think she said a few months or something like that because they shared an apartment wall and she hadnt heard her. moo

This is correct. Like everyone else neighbors assumed she was taken by CPS. I'm still baffled why that neighbor that shared wall never called the cops with the crying and screaming next door although RB's sister Tamara said family cut off ties from RB because she was volatile and angry. Who knows maybe the neighbors were afraid of RB and MM. You can't trust heroin addicts. If they ratted on them there could have been retaliation from the two.. That's why so many people are afraid to get involved in situations like this. RB does have a very mean harsh look.

 

[Dogface]

Regarding the contractor bags, I use them in a metal pail in my dogs yard for pooper scooping, and take it out the night before the trash comes. But I tie it off, not even tightly, and even though I KNOW it smells awful, you literally can't smell it at all.

 

[wondering25]

Oy. Do you think the little angel was death months ago and kept -I cannot write where, I just can't- for months?

yes, April 5th was Easter this year. We dont know if MM lived there all the time, either. He may have been gone for days or weeks staying in some shooting gallery ( drug den) and came back and found Bella gone. We just dont know. There is no "eye witness" to the murder unless RB wants to now say she saw him punching Bella in the stomach. These people, even the other "witnesses, are so spaced out they dont know what year it is.. their next fix is their life. The "houseguest" who was the life long friend of MM is no angel either, imo. He reported things NOW but i guess he was being "polite" when he didnt report the abuse of Bella he witnessed because he would have appeared ungrateful for their hospitality?? moo

yes, i know that MM claims per his friend, that he could perform exorcisms. i can claim i can do lots of things.. but i don't do them.. it is called "bravado", and may have appealed to RB's occult obsession. Hey, he needed a place to crash.. if i needed a place to crash i would claim i was Julia Child and could make a melt in your mouth souffle . JMO

Anything I write is just my opinion.

 

[Bravo]

I dont know that the DA is buying Bonds story at this point. I think they went with what they had. Get these 2 behind bars and see where the Investigation takes them. It may not take them any further but one or both killed that poor child. RB claims to be a witness of sorts.

 

[Sonya610]

yes, i know that MM claims per his friend, that he could perform exorcisms. i can claim i can do lots of things.. but i don't do them.. it is called "bravado", and may have appealed to RB's occult obsession. Hey, he needed a place to crash.. if i needed a place to crash i would claim i was Julia Child and could make a melt in your mouth souffle . JMO

Anything I write is just my opinion.

Exactly. Since he had lots of books on the occult and demonology it is possible that he rambled on about things he read. If he read up on exorcisms and was talking about it that could be interpreted as "claiming he could exorcise demons".

As unbelievable as it may seem to us, I suspect RB has a talent for "playing men" which is why the bio-dad and MM's friend are defending her. She had worked as a prostitute so she likely knew a thing or two about manipulating the opposite sex.

 

[Angelcolev]

yes, April 5th was Easter this year. We dont know if MM lived there all the time, either. He may have been gone for days or weeks staying in some shooting gallery ( drug den) and came back and found Bella gone. We just dont know. There is no "eye witness" to the murder unless RB wants to now say she saw him punching Bella in the stomach. These people, even the other "witnesses, are so spaced out they dont know what year it is.. their next fix is their life. The "houseguest" who was the life long friend of MM is no angel either, imo. He reported things NOW but i guess he was being "polite" when he didnt report the abuse of Bella he witnessed because he would have appeared ungrateful for their hospitality?? moo

yes, i know that MM claims per his friend, that he could perform exorcisms. i can claim i can do lots of things.. but i don't do them.. it is called "bravado", and may have appealed to RB's occult obsession. Hey, he needed a place to crash.. if i needed a place to crash i would claim i was Julia Child and could make a melt in your mouth souffle . JMO

Anything I write is just my opinion.

Bravo ( as in hooray, not as in screen name haha) you have been so on point with everything you've said! I can't agree more with your theories. The timeline does NOT add up to what story RB is selling. I'm not saying MM is a saint by ANY means, but there is more to this with RB than we know right now. JMO

Eta clarification of who I was talking to. LOL

 

[blefuscu]

Regarding the story about MM holding RB captive and injecting her with heroin in the neck. Most junkies avoid the jugular because it's too easy to hit the carotid artery and bleed out. The only junkies who do shoot into the neck usually do so because the rest of their veins are shot. I've heard of people injecting in the groin, feet, legs, between toes. Anywhere before the neck. I think MM may have actually injected the drugs into RB but I think it was because her veins have collapsed and she can't inject into arms/legs. It's easier for someone else to shoot someone up in the neck because you really need to be able to see what you are doing, and like anything in a mirror it can be difficult to do yourself. Personally I don't think she held hostage and forced heroin against her will. She looks like a vintage junkie.

 

[Whiteorchids]

Hi there my friend!

Honestly, I will repeat what I posted earlier. I wouldn't believe Rachelle Bond if I saw with my own eyes her tongue being notarized . I am stunned that the DA seems to be buying her lies although I shouldn't be. Yes, I do believe she is lying in everything she has supposedly said. If what she said was truthful there would be evidence of it yet there isn't evidence to support her claims.... in fact the autopsy shows she is lying. If Bella truly had been punched so hard by McCarthy to cause her death the ME would have seen trauma to her internal organs and there would be exterior bruising as well because she wouldn't die right away. So where is the evidence to support her claim? It isn't there but it wouldn't be the first time a DA believed the female scum over the male scum involved.

What he says makes a lot more sense to me that what she has said.

Imo, this is my theory of what happened. Just a theory and nothing more.

She, according to her own family member, was known as a very angry woman. She also was locking Bella in the closet too from what I have read. We already know she was a very neglectful 'mom.' I believe Bond saw Bella as a burden she didn't want to carry but she did want the welfare money she got for Bella. A two year old toddler needs attention continuously when they aren't sleeping, and that cut into her time of doing drugs, staying stoned, and having sex. I think she once again became angry at Bella that day for some stupid nonsensical reason and she hit Bella in anger, and then got even angrier because Bella wouldn't stop crying. So I think SHE smothered her to death. IMO

It is such an injustice and a slap in the face to Bella for her mom to get away with the horrible things she has done. RB needs to go to prison for the rest of her life and that still wouldn't make up for the unforgivable things she did to her own totally innocent little girl.

I have long felt even before this case happened there are men sitting in prison right now for a murder against a child that the female in the home committed. Its just easier to believe that a man is the bad one and a much easier sell to a jury for the Prosecutors.

IMO

Hi OBE. So good to see you here. Great post. You and I always seem to be going down the same road with CM and now this.

MM is five yrs younger then her and I think she is a very good manipulator so not very hard to get MM to do as she says. He's the fall guy.. She may have told him to do the deed. More will come out in trial.

Godmother said in her interview RB does what she wants and no one stands in her way. She's afraid of no one. This is very telling. Her family has alienated her as well. I don't believe she has any friends except JA whom she went to first chance to win his support with her story. She has one Ally. JA doesn't come off too smart either so she most likely manipulated him.

 

[Bootsctr]

Yessiomara Torres, Bond's next-door neighbor, said the girl's mother told her she had lost custody of two other children and worried about losing custody of Bella, CNN affiliate WHDH reported.

"She said she didn't want anybody taking her away from her, that she is trying her best to be the best parent that she can be," Torres told the station.

But Torres said she hadn't heard or seen Bella since earlier this year, believing she was in state custody."I used to hear the little girl either crying, running around, playing," she said. "I haven't heard that for months now."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/18/us/boston-baby-doe-identified/

I think April through June 25 would be months. April 24th was the last FB I could see for RB. That 3 months right there. She's backing up MM's story about the state taking Bella.

 

[jjenny]

It was both RB's and MM's story that state took Bella. It would appear that's how they were explaining why Bella was missing.

 

[wondering25]

the godmother hadnt seen her since then because she and RB had a falling out.

Right , so we know the baby was alive on March 12th.. that was my only point.

 

[Bravo]

Yessiomara Torres, Bond's next-door neighbor, said the girl's mother told her she had lost custody of two other children and worried about losing custody of Bella, CNN affiliate WHDH reported.

"She said she didn't want anybody taking her away from her, that she is trying her best to be the best parent that she can be," Torres told the station.

But Torres said she hadn't heard or seen Bella since earlier this year, believing she was in state custody."I used to hear the little girl either crying, running around, playing," she said. "I haven't heard that for months now."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/18/us/boston-baby-doe-identified/

I think April through June 25 would be months. April 24th was the last FB I could see for RB. That 3 months right there. She's backing up MM's story about the state taking Bella.

Thanks for digging that up. It's been stuck in my craw for a bit. Does it mean anything? I dont know. Only if folks are telling the truth.

 

[Bootsctr]

It was both RB's and MM's story that state took Bella. It would appear that's how they were explaining why Bella was missing.

True, but who told the neighbor the state took Bella? It like she sort of assumed it when Bella went silent because she knew about RB's two other children. However, I'm not discounting the fact she said something to RB about where's the little girl and RB said the state took her... She's at Cape Cod...

I think it's a little fishy as to the timing of RB's "Come To God" moment and revealing that Baby Bella was murdered.


Oh my! :loveyou: :loveyou: So many good posts and so little time!

 

[Whiteorchids]

yes, April 5th was Easter this year. We dont know if MM lived there all the time, either. He may have been gone for days or weeks staying in some shooting gallery ( drug den) and came back and found Bella gone. We just dont know. There is no "eye witness" to the murder unless RB wants to now say she saw him punching Bella in the stomach. These people, even the other "witnesses, are so spaced out they dont know what year it is.. their next fix is their life. The "houseguest" who was the life long friend of MM is no angel either, imo. He reported things NOW but i guess he was being "polite" when he didnt report the abuse of Bella he witnessed because he would have appeared ungrateful for their hospitality?? moo

yes, i know that MM claims per his friend, that he could perform exorcisms. i can claim i can do lots of things.. but i don't do them.. it is called "bravado", and may have appealed to RB's occult obsession. Hey, he needed a place to crash.. if i needed a place to crash i would claim i was Julia Child and could make a melt in your mouth souffle . JMO

Anything I write is just my opinion.

I did read an article where MM said that he and RB were only friends and he stayed there with her occasionally, so RB could have killed her while he was drugging in a heroin den.

The roommate, Sprinsky friend of MM and RB who moved out did ask them about Bella more than once. They both told him CPS took her. He believed them because of RB's other two taken. I can't really blame him. He was the tipster. He asked if RB can get Bella back since she's stopped two days of drugs that's when she broke down, told him the truth and he and his sister called LE.

Even if people asked CPS if they had baby Bella because of hippa privacy laws I don't believe they can give that information if she was there or not.

 

[gcharlie]

Regarding Bella's body being washed ashore...

I know of someone who wanted to be buried at sea off a Caribbean island. His body washed ashore with the first two burials and the third time was the charm. IIRC, the first two attempts were not DIY attempts.

Moral of the story is that trying to send a body to a watery grave is not as simple as it sounds. Many underestimate the process of decomposition and the gasses released. Using a plastic bag, especially if it was refrigerated, would have any gasses trapped inside expand once they were exposed to warmer temperatures, increasing the buoyancy of the bag and its contents.