MA - Bella Bond, 2, found dead, Deer Island, Boston Harbor, June 2015 - #5

[heartgoesout]

I just don't understand. I mean if my sons father was selling drugs amd growing drugs around my child I'd call the cops before bringing my child back. He'd be in jail. Problem solved.

While he's in jail I'd go before a judge armed with his recent drug charges and get my placement of my child.

Why sit back wast time on phone calls and for cps to do what the other parent should of done. Why try and wast time trying to get cps to take your child from the other parent when you could do it at just one simple phone call to LE. This Is exacly why cps just can't take kids based on what someone says. It would be unethical. Every crazy baby mama would be calling cps saying the father is selling and growing drugs then. There comes a time in life where you don't care any more about what others think you just go and call the cops if its as bad as your telling cps it is.

I don't understand either. The police and narcotics division were involved yet mom had to give the child back because DFS gave him the go ahead and he's innocent until proven guilty.

It was not my intention to turn this into this situation. I'm only pointing out the two times I know anything about DFS they failed the child.

 

[Angelcolev]

Thanks for your great post. I agree. She was smart when she needed money. She fraudulently filled out lots of paperwork properly required with the state and federal government in order to get her free housing, money and health benefits. Her shelter, food, medical ins, and the extra welfare cash she used for drugs, car, gas, clothes, toys etc. all paid for. Wow, she got more for doing nothing but shooting up than I get working my arse off for almost minimum wage.

Anyway, MM may very well have killed her but possibly with RB's instruction to do so or else?? People that hire to murder are charged with murder even though they may have not laid a hand on them. Maybe RB is telling the truth but highly unlikely.

MM probably supplied her with the heroin she loved. That's why she kept him around. I don't think it was for his good looks and great personality. She used and manipulated him. She got off drugs recently according to MS so therefore she didn't need MM anymore, she was done with him. He had nothing to offer her. So she came up with the story to throw MM under the bus and hopefully be able to start a new clean life again with JA. After all JA left her because of the prostitution. Now she's all cleaned up and gained sympathy from JA by blaming MM. She was the victim in all this. Feel sorry for me. Poor me.

I also remember JA said he just wanted to be a family again. Family??? RB wanted JA back but had to come up with a real good story to get MM out of their lives take the blame off her.

Exactly! Thanks for expanding on my thoughts.... RB seems to have become, throughout her life, a master of manipulating as well as using people. MM was just another cog in her wheel, and now so is JA. IMHO

 

[BUF]

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That article says:

"Finally, late last week, she made a horrible allegation: her boyfriend had killed Bella, convinced she was possessed by demons.Amoroso was with Bond, 40, when authorities picked them both up on Friday at his mother’s home north of Boston, he told the Globe. That day, Bond and her boyfriend were arrested for the girl’s murder."

So am I correct in remembering that MS, the tipster's brother, said that he was walking with Rachelle on Wednesday when Rachelle told him Bella was dead? He then texted MM (where was MM?) and MM replied that Bella was with DCF. MS then texted his sister (LS) and it was LS who actually contacted the police. Then the police would have had to get a warrant to go into Rachelle's apartment (Rachelle wasn't there, because she'd called JA on Wednesday night and they spent that night together?) Police found enough evidence there to want to talk with Rachelle and MM, and they talked to them all on Friday, picking up Rachelle and JA from his mother's home. So it might have been Thursday night that Rachelle told JA, but he says they spent about 24 hours together...and that would seem like it's the 24 hours prior to being picked up by the police at his mother's.

So the timetable there isn't perfect, but I think it fits reasonably, to within 24 hours either side. The next question I have is when did MM go to the hospital and how did that happen? I figured that the cops pulled him in and got their doctor to look at him (because he was probably drugged out when he was pulled in) and their doctor would have recommended the hospital check out his arms. I agree with the poster who said it doesn't seem likely that MM would go to the hospital on his own volition for those abscesses, because he's a junkie more concerned with getting a fix than the state of his arms, and also because he wouldn't want to leave Rachelle alone if there's a risk she's going to tell as soon as he's out of the way? However, JA says that Rachelle claims the only reason she could now tell anyone was because MM was in the hospital and no longer controlling her with the injections of heroin into her jugular. This makes it sound like MM went into the hospital before she told MS and before the police were even aware of Bella's identity.

Thanks Amonet.

It sure would be good to know exactly where & when MM was picked up and when he was admitted to the hospital. Does anyone know...have I missed this somewhere?

Something seems to be falling apart in this with what RB told JA and what JA claimed RB said. If this information on MM is available, I think a lot would be answered.

It all still seems a bit fishy to me.

 

[giagreen]

I don't understand either. The police and narcotics division were involved yet mom had to give the child back because DFS gave him the go ahead and he's innocent until proven guilty.

It was not my intention to turn this into this situation. I'm only pointing out the two times I know anything about DFS they failed the child.

I know it wasn't. Sorry. I'm actually enjoying what you have to say because I want to know more and other peoples perspective. And situations. Sorry if I came off snarky. Its not you. Its me being fed up with all these dead kids and nothing to do to stop it....or so it seems.

See I called cps a handful of times on my own cousin because of her drug use. I was scared. Always stayed anonymous. Amd didn't want anyone mad at me. Nothing was ever done till the day I went over to my aunts house where she was alone with her three kids. My aunt was out of town. She was so drugged up she bumped into a chair and thought it was her dog bandit that died four years before.

When I arived her one year old was down the street hanging over a pool. I do believe he would of died had I not shown up at that moment. I stayed all day and took care of them kids because I was scared to call cps. But I didn't have my son at the time and had to work at 10pm so at around 8ish I finally just called the cops and lied and made it look like an anonymous tip from a neighbor. Police come and they new right away me amongst her and the kids I had made the call.

They pulled me aside and said flat out if I don't tell them they can't do nothing and cps would take weeks to investigate. So I did the right thing. Told the truth. Wrote a statement. She went to jail and her kids where taken. She still won't talk to me over it. But it was bad. Like I couldn't leave for work if I didn't call the cops. I always think. Had I called cps they wouldn't of ever had solid proof of her drug use unless I got the police there to back me up on what I was seeing.

She did get her kids back but its on her mothers terms. I wonder if in ur case his mom is helping with the kids otherwise thats crazy and I don't see how he got them back unless if he is in drug court and being monitored. Supervised visitation maybe? Idk

But what I wish is that more people would forget about cps(not really) and call the cops on the spot instead of waiting. The cops will follow up with cps which is even better.

 

[Whiteorchids]

It looks like McCarthy was in the hospital before arrested. So then why would he risk leaving his hostage (RB) all alone after all her daily heroin jugular injections to comply with his demands.?? OMG RB has a wild imagination. Maybe too many CSI episodes??

Good informative article

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...der-charges/LXL8d0kDGe4nCknfEwUPpJ/story.html

On Thursday, State Police searched the Maxwell Streethome where they found children’s clothing and books on demons.

They later found McCarthy at a Boston hospital, where he was having minor surgery, and Bond at Bella’s grandparents’ house in Lynn.

McCarthy “continued to maintain that Bella was in DCF custody and that’s all he knew,” Deakin, the prosecutor, told the court Monday.

Interesting when RB told MS about the murder of Bella she said

"I’ll never see my daughter again. Michael McCarthy killed her and I’m an accessory after the fact because I helped get rid of the body.”

How did she know that was going to be her exact charge? Did she come up with her story after googling possible charges? Hmmm

 

[Doghairrules]

Are those fake hands or is that shot a a weird angle? Either way it looks very creepy and not lovely. A bloody red heart in pallid, dismembered hands? Ewwww!

Hahahahaha! That is not how i experienced it at all. I thought of it as angels hands holding that baby's pure heart.

So interesting that we can look at the same thing and see two completely different things, isn't it?


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[heartgoesout]

I feel like I want to believe JA. He was going off of the only story he knew which was RB's. And who would really be able to digest the story she did tell him?!

So JA was put off by RB in early August when he arrived back to Boston looking for Bella. She told him Bella was in Cape Cod. Why didn't she reach out to JA then?? They spoke! Perfect opportunity to scream help!!
Liar Liar pants on fire RB!!

 

[Whiteorchids]

I just don't know what to make of this mess. Ugh.

Speaking outside, McCarthy’s defense attorney, Jonathan Shapiro denied the allegations and described Bond’s statements as delusional.

“When she was arrested and asked to explain what happened to her daughter, she decided to blame it on Mr. McCarthy,” Shapiro said. “He is shocked and saddened by the death of Bella Bond, but he did not kill her.”

He said McCarthy is a recovering drug addict.

McCarthy’s attorney did not contest the state’s request to hold him without bail. But Bond’s attorney asked the court to lower the bail.

 

[giagreen]

It looks like McCarthy was in the hospital before arrested.

Good informative article

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...der-charges/LXL8d0kDGe4nCknfEwUPpJ/story.html

On Thursday, State Police searched the Maxwell Streethome where they found children’s clothing and books on demons.

They later found McCarthy at a Boston hospital, where he was having minor surgery, and Bond at Bella’s grandparents’ house in Lynn.

McCarthy “continued to maintain that Bella was in DCF custody and that’s all he knew,” Deakin, the prosecutor, told the court Monday.

Interesting when RB told MS about the murder of Bella she said

"I’ll never see my daughter again. Michael McCarthy killed her and I’m an accessory after the fact because I helped get rid of the body.”

How did she know that was going to be her exact charge? Did she come up with her story after googling possible charges? Hmmm

If that's all he told LE I think he might actually have a decent case. But I'm sure they have got to have something on him if they charged him.

 

[Inthedetails]

BBM

The sister said that when she visited Rachelle in January this year that Bella wasn't talking at all. Yet on the 2nd birthday video Bella's talking fine. She's got the words and speaking very clearly, she just feels a little hesitant, maybe...possibly a bit scared of saying the wrong thing lest she get shouted at?

I suspect that she started talking just fine, and that between the 2nd birthday and January things were going downhill for Rachelle and the stress of how she was living made Bella revert to non-verbal, which I think happens to a lot of kids of that age when there are large changes happening with 'step-dads' moving in and out and a mother who's up and down in mood.

ETA there were two times I heard Bella speak in the 2nd birthday video. Once was when Rachelle was telling her to look at the table, "Look what mommy's done! Look!" Bella walks forward and says, "it's for *me*?" Later in the video Rachelle complains that the silly string is all over the place, then she says something to the effect of, "oh well, it'll clean up, and it's your birthday so it's acceptable", to which Bella says, "it's a-what?" I could understand her fine, and I can't always understand babbling babies.

Regarding the bolded bit:

That's actually really cute - a story that should've been a delightful memory to be re-told, with the phrase "a ceptable" being a family inside joke.

Not that it's funny that making a mess is only acceptable as a birthday treat but on other days would create an ugly scene - that part is not cute, but Bella's question about the word "acceptable" is a cute toddler question.

Poor kid.

 

[Whiteorchids]

If that's all he told LE I think he might actually have a decent case. But I'm sure they have got to have something on him if they charged him.

I think it's a he said she said I don't think they had any evidence other than RB's story and a dead Bella for the arraignment. That's all they need for now. This way they got them locked up for time being so the defendants can't talk to one another to get their stories straight. This way investigators can catch the inconsistencies. LE can now do a proper investigation with them out of the way or interfering.

 

[heartgoesout]

giagreen, no apologies necessary. I too enjoy others perspectives.
And you did the right thing. : )

 

[Inthedetails]

I think it's a he said she said I don't think they had any evidence other than RB's story and a dead Bella for the arraignment. That's all they need for now. This way they got them locked up for time being so the defendants can't talk to one another to get their stories straight. This way investigators can catch the inconsistencies. LE can now do a proper investigation with them out of the way or interfering.

Bingo. I think that is exactly what is going on.

 

[joypath]

There is cell damage from freezing BUT would the medical examiner have caught it? The body had been in water and already had skin slippage. They would have to run special tests to see if the cells were damaged from freezing.

Since Bella has not been buried I guess they could have gone back to look for signs of freezing in the last few days unless she was kept at below freezing temps while waiting to be identified.

She was sitting in the morgue for how long? 80+ days? I would think she would have been frozen to preserve any potential evidence.

BBM:

As mentioned before, morphological changes will occur when a body is frozen. The changes will be noticed when the histological samples of the organ(s) are mounted, stained & examined..... a standard part of a post mortem procedure.

I'm imagining the situation within the morgue.....a body that is decomposing in an abnormal time frame, that is the external changes are not "coordinated" with internal changes nor with the insect infestation expected. Very perplexing, and just the type of a case that draws in every member of the OCME team!

 

[heartgoesout]

We need to find out when MM went in the hospital and the circumstances around it.

 

[Angelcolev]

I feel like I want to believe JA. He was going off of the only story he knew which was RB's. And who would really be able to digest the story she did tell him?!

So JA was put off by RB in early August when he arrived back to Boston looking for Bella. She told him Bella was in Cape Cod. Why didn't she reach out to JA then?? They spoke! Perfect opportunity to scream help!!
Liar Liar pants on fire RB!!

Yes! Wasn't it also said that JA WENT to her apartment? *IF* she was held " captive" when she opened the door to speak with him ( he has been quoted as saying she had " nervous eyes" why didn't she scream/run/mouth " help me"... Anything?

 

[human]

Thanks for your great post. I agree. She was smart when she needed money. She fraudulently filled out lots of paperwork properly required with the state and federal government in order to get her free housing, money and health benefits. Her shelter, food, medical ins, and the extra welfare cash she used for drugs, car, gas, clothes, toys etc. all paid for. Wow, she got more for doing nothing but shooting up than I get working my arse off for almost minimum wage.

Anyway, MM may very well have killed her but possibly with RB's instruction to do so or else?? People that hire to murder are charged with murder even though they may have not laid a hand on them. Maybe RB is telling the truth but highly unlikely.

MM probably supplied her with the heroin she loved. That's why she kept him around. I don't think it was for his good looks and great personality. She used and manipulated him. She got off drugs recently according to MS so therefore she didn't need MM anymore, she was done with him. He had nothing to offer her. So she came up with the story to throw MM under the bus and hopefully be able to start a new clean life again with JA. After all JA left her because of the prostitution. Now she's all cleaned up and gained sympathy from JA by blaming MM. She was the victim in all this. Feel sorry for me. Poor me.

I also remember JA said he just wanted to be a family again. Family??? RB wanted JA back but had to come up with a real good story to get MM out of their lives take the blame off her.

She is not getting welfare. There is a one year limit where you don 't have to work or go to school for child rearing. She is well past that. If you don't do those things, you are sanctioned until you get no more cash. She would still get vouchers for housing, etc but no cash. She said she got disability, I can't imagine that is much because when would she have worked?

She would not get housing without a child.

I worked with people in poverty for over thirty years. I do not envy their lives. They have to answer intrusive questions about themselves. They have to have inspections of their housing. There are rules as to who can live with them. The amount of cash, where I lived, was $423 for a family of three . Yes, they got subsidized housing, but it could only be in places up to a certain dollar amount. They could not have a more expensive place. I don't know how the landlords got away with it, but most of these places were not places you would set foot in.

RB's place looked decent enough, though.

There are so many issues with poverty that I had to retire early . I could not take the hopelessness of it all although some make it out. The predators on poverty. The Payday loans, for instance. The for profit colleges. Just ugly

 

[heartgoesout]

He also said he suspected she was using.
This can go in either the DA's or defense attorney's favor.

 

[Whiteorchids]

We need to find out when MM went in the hospital and the circumstances around it.

The only people who would know is MM, RB, LE, and hospital staff. HIPAA laws won't allow that info public.

 

[Whiteorchids]

She is not getting welfare. There is a one year limit where you don 't have to work or go to school for child rearing. She is well past that. If you don't do those things, you are sanctioned until you get no more cash. She would still get vouchers for housing, etc but no cash. She said she got disability, I can't imagine that is much because when would she have worked?

She would not get housing without a child.

I worked with people in poverty for over thirty years. I do not envy their lives. They have to answer intrusive questions about themselves. They have to have inspections of their housing. There are rules as to who can live with them. The amount of cash, where I lived, was $423 for a family of three . Yes, they got subsidized housing, but it could only be in places up to a certain dollar amount. They could not have a more expensive place. I don't know how the landlords got away with it, but most of these places were not places you would set foot in.

RB's place looked decent enough, though.

There are so many issues with poverty that I had to retire early . I could not take the hopelessness of it all although some make it out. The predators on poverty. The Payday loans, for instance. The for profit colleges. Just ugly

Here in CA you can get welfare with a child under 18 look at Octomom. Nadya Suleman. SSI is part of SSA it's income based not like SSDI which is employment based. She hasn't worked so she was probably drawing. It was a like on her FB SSI is a different program. I think most get around $900 a month plus food stamps. With a free apt that's decent money. Also free medical ins. People are known to sell their food stamps for cash.

Her place was very nice for a section 8. She certainly abused the system. I know many in need, people who don't abuse drugs nor with a criminal record who cannot get HUD due to five year waiting list. People like this ruin it for others!!! Drug addicts are not allowed to live in HUD nor is a live in BF only her and Bella who were approved. Felons cannot live there either. Bella was her meal ticket. She DIDNT have a child last few month. She had a nice place and good benefits and really screwed it up along with her daughter being murdered. All her benefits she had was from having Bella. Nor she's worthless scum. I hope her and her scum BF rot in hell.