MA - Bella Bond, 2, found dead, Deer Island, Boston Harbor, June 2015 - #6

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  • #221
RB had legal custody of the baby. The father was unnamed. In a family (when the parents are married to each other), either parent can claim the body because both parents are the next of kin. When there is a divorce one parent is usually granted primary physical custody of the child.. sometimes joint custody is ordered so that decisions are made by both parents. But one parent usually does have primary physical custody. Anyway, in this case, RB has been convicted of nothing and she would have to give consent to have the baby released to JA, i would think.
I find it hard to believe that the body will be buried anytime soon.. and IF JA is found thru DNA to be the dad, the state of Massachusetts will be after his behind for all kinds of back support..I will be willing to wager he wont be giving his DNA anytime soon. MOO

Anything i write is just my opinion.



BBM:
Exactly! We have to remember, RB, is considered innocent until convicted of something in a court of law. IF we all think back a few years, there was this situation in Fla. where a certain female signed over authority/responsibility of her daughter's body to her mother, who did what SHE wanted, not what the "next of kin" wanted!:tantrum:

I also am thinking that JA would be reluctant to provide DNA....for the financial reasons! The other challenge to take over responsibility/authority of the body could come from RB's MOTHER.....IF she wants to get into the fray~:thinking:
 
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This poor baby was no more than a souvenir from an Occupy event. Two criminal drug addicts getting paid to 'protest' something they could not care less about hook up in a tent and one goes home pregnant. The sperm donor is useless and doesn't want anything to do with the uterus because it is for sale. Sperm donor has high standards. Right. The uterus sees a monthly check coming soon. It grabs pathetic man off the street, moves him into it's life and they spend their time shooting heroin and all the dysfunction that drugs and stupidity bring with it. The baby is abused and neglected - people see it and do nothing.

Sperm donor disappears into that homeless, worthless life he loves and despite knowing that the uterus is a horrible custodian for a baby, does nothing.

Then one day or night, uterus and BF go over the top and kill the baby, stuff her in the freezer and party hard for a few days until they decide to dump her in the ocean.

They are both lying. No one can tell me that they didn't open the freezer for days and therefore didn't know the baby was in there. BF says he thought DFS took the child. What did he think was in that black bag in the freezer?

I do not believe the uterus for one second. It is lying to protect itself. Let's not forget that it would lock this baby in a closet for hours at a time, it was no mother.

Uterus will be charged with murder soon.

There was a case here many years ago in which a young woman was beaten with a baseball bat until she died. 2 men were in the house at the time, one was her husband and the other a friend who was allegedly having an affair with the wife. Neither would confess or point the finger at the other, both claimed innocence. The beating took place over a long period of time, with breaks to watch tv, eat, etc., It was impossible to tell which of the many blows killed her or who was using the baseball bat. What did the prosecutor do? He charged them both with murder and convicted them both. I think they are in the state pen for life.

This is what I predict here. Both will go down.

Who knows? They may have put the baby in the freezer/fridge while she was alive because they didn't want to be bothered with her, forgot what they did and then realized she was dead much later. She may have suffocated in the closed fridge. They liked locking her in closets, why not a fridge where her cries would be muffled?

Maybe they just starved the baby to death while they partied. It happens all the time.
 
  • #224
It doesn't matter if it was a week or a day or a hour ...he did not report that Bella was murdered after RB told him. He claims he's her father for goodness sake! People were trying to figure out who this unfortunate little girl they found in a plastic bag dumped in the water was...for how long? Poor child...

Wonder how long this would have gone on if LS had not contacted the authorities when she did. Thank goodness she did.

You're absolutely right about what *should* have happened!

I think it is a good thing the 'confession' wasn't only to JA and that LS did go to the police....JA was angry at MM, I doubt he'd have wanted him to walk free (after hearing RB's story) but could he have convinced RB to tell the police if the police weren't already knocking on the door?
 
  • #225
Seems JA had more concern for RB than he did poor little Bella. The one he claimed he came back for! He claimed to have concern for Bella thru slurred convo with RB. So he chooses to spend the night by the water with her for Family time. Unbelievable!
 
  • #226
RB had legal custody of the baby. The father was unnamed. In a family (when the parents are married to each other), either parent can claim the body because both parents are the next of kin. When there is a divorce one parent is usually granted primary physical custody of the child.. sometimes joint custody is ordered so that decisions are made by both parents.

RB may have "first dibs" in this case but if she doesn't arrange for a funeral home to take possession of the body then the state will try to get another family member to handle it. Since she had MONTHS to make suitable arrangements but instead chose to dump the body in the ocean she apparently isn't all that concerned about the burial.

Apparently in MA unclaimed bodies are basically "forced" on private funeral homes, the tax payer doesn't foot the bill, the funeral homes have to donate up to 5% of their services for the indigent at a huge loss, they also have to store the bodies for months before they are allowed to bury them. http://worcestermag.com/2014/03/20/unclaimed-dead-buried-alone-massachusetts/21843
 
  • #227
I am curious about the next of kin issue.

http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/30...a-bonds-funeral-after-mother-charged-in-death
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"BOSTON (MyFoxBoston.com) - Bella Bond's remains are still at the medical examiner's office in Boston and according to the Suffolk county District Attorney that’s where they will remain during the nvestigation and legal precedings. "

<snipped>
"Amoroso is most likely Bella's legal next of kin, according to the DA, and will likely be the one who
makes the decision about when and where Bella is buried once the medical examiner's office releases her."

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The actual next of kin would be the Mother I would think? She is still alive and hasn't been convicted of anything. And even if she is convicted would she not still have the legal right to determine who buries her child and where? Have her parental rights been terminated simply because she was arrested as accessory? Under what statute?

Does this mean that Bella is being retained through the legal preceedings in order to determine who has authority to bury her?

Surely they wouldn't release her body to RB!!! She had her body in a refrigerator for over a month. She had her chance to have a proper funeral and instead she dumped her like trash.

Besides, they can't, she's in jail.
 
  • #228
It is far less than perfect, it looks really bad for the prosecution. I have to wonder if this is Boston politics gone wrong along with panic (a bit like their CPS).

MM will clean up real nice, RB won't. The "witnesses" that testify will be nothing less than a freak show and the defense attorney will tear them into pieces on the stand. Plus plenty will testify AGAINST the star witness (RB).

It appears they can't even prove the child was murdered.

Personally I want word on the status of the little dog, Bailey. Where is the dog and is she okay?

I noticed in the Christmas tree pic with Bella that there is a gray cat. Wonder what happened to it.

I also noticed that Bella had a LOT of presents considering her mother had no money. How was she able to afford all those gifts? I also noticed that in the pic of her pretending to drive a vehicle, the vehicle is a jeep GRAND Cherokee with leather interiors. That's a 35,000 dollar vehicle. Surely RB couldn't afford that. Maybe the godmother?
 
  • #229
Surely they wouldn't rehear her body to RB!!! She had her body in a refrigerator for over a month. She had her chance to have a proper funeral and instead she dumped her like trash.

Besides, they can't, she's in jail.

If RB (or her attorney) made arrangements with a funeral home to pick up and intern the body then the state probably would have to release it to her, or there would be a legal squabble regarding who has the right.
 
  • #230
I noticed in the Christmas tree pic with Bella that there is a gray cat. Wonder what happened to it.

Could the pic be from GMs house? Maybe they were visiting and it wasn't their cat.
 
  • #231
If RB (or her attorney) made arrangements with a funeral home to pick up and intern the body then the state probably would have to release it to her, or there would be a legal squabble regarding who has the right.

This would make me SOOooooooooooooooooo MAD! This would be infuriating!!!! There needs to be a law to prevent this from happening. RB should not get the satisfaction of being "responsible" for a proper burial after what she did to her daughter's body. &#128545;&#128545;&#128545;&#128545;

Are they going to ALLOW her to attend the funeral. Good grief! Please tell me no. Please please!
 
  • #232
Could the pic be from GMs house? Maybe they were visiting and it wasn't their cat.

No I'm pretty sure the Aztec rug is in the pic. Here's the link to the article with the pic. You have to press the arrow about 3 times to get to the Christmas pic
http://heavy.com/news/2015/09/rachelle-bond-baby-doe-bella-deer-island-identity-name-michael-mccarthy-facebook-photos/5/
 
  • #233
This would make me SOOooooooooooooooooo MAD! This would be infuriating!!!! There needs to be a law to prevent this from happening.

Don't worry! RB couldn't pay for the funeral even if she wanted to.
 
  • #234
This child's body has been big news for a while, and the story has gotten even bigger since she was identified.

I'm not sure how Massachusetts law is written in terms of who can claim a body. All I keep finding is next of kin. If BioDad has not established his paternity, the State may be reluctant to release the body to him without a waiver from RB or other next of kin. In today's litigious society, this could come back to haunt the State.

As much as it may upset some people to have the body released to RB, right now she is accused only, not convicted and even if convicted, as mother, she is first in line as next of kin in terms of legally claiming the body for burial.
 
  • #235
This child's body has been big news for a while, and the story has gotten even bigger since she was identified.

I'm not sure how Massachusetts law is written in terms of who can claim a body. All I keep finding is next of kin. If BioDad has not established his paternity, the State may be reluctant to release the body to him without a waiver from RB or other next of kin. In today's litigious society, this could come back to haunt the State.

As much as it may upset some people to have the body released to RB, right now she is accused only, not convicted and even if convicted, as mother, she is first in line as next of kin in terms of legally claiming the body for burial.

She is innocent in the eyes of the State, Perhaps she will release the body to JA as he has a place for her. I cannot imagine that RB has anything,
 
  • #236
This would make me SOOooooooooooooooooo MAD! This would be infuriating!!!! There needs to be a law to prevent this from happening. RB should not get the satisfaction of being "responsible" for a proper burial after what she did to her daughter's body. &#63009;&#63009;&#63009;&#63009;

Are they going to ALLOW her to attend the funeral. Good grief! Please tell me no. Please please!

NOTHING has legally been proven that RB did ANYTHING to Bella.....she remains the :gaah: (gag) "responsible party", next of kin (gag):gaah: and therefore has the legal say-so over Bella's body UNLESS she has formally & legally signed over responsibility.

IMHO, RB will NOT be permitted to leave State custody :jail: to attend the funeral even 'tho she has not been convicted.....to attend the service she or her family would be required to pay UPFRONT for "custodial services" (aka ARMED guards & ALL transportation) & THAT would only occur if she receives special (read: hard to get) dispensation.:tantrum: NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, IMVVVVVHO! :laughing:


This child's body has been big news for a while, and the story has gotten even bigger since she was identified.

I'm not sure how Massachusetts law is written in terms of who can claim a body. All I keep finding is next of kin. If BioDad has not established his paternity, the State may be reluctant to release the body to him without a waiver from RB or other next of kin. In today's litigious society, this could come back to haunt the State.

As much as it may upset some people to have the body released to RB, right now she is accused only, not convicted and even if convicted, as mother, she is first in line as next of kin in terms of legally claiming the body for burial.


And regarding payment for the funeral home services.......that's between the funeral director & the arranging family party, most (probably ALL) funeral directors want up-front down payments & a signed-over insurance policy or other promissory note!
 
  • #237
Someone had recently asked about this...

MA does have the joint venture law, but it will be up to the prosecutor how to charge them after the grand jury convenes.

In the recent AH murder trial in MA this year, he had a separate trial. His other two accomplices will have separate trials later this next year.
 
  • #238
She is innocent in the eyes of the State, Perhaps she will release the body to JA as he has a place for her. I cannot imagine that RB has anything,

Right. She hasn't been proven guilty, but she admitted that Bella was kept in a fridge and that she was there when Bella was dumped into the water.

But I forgot that she expects the public to believe that she was held against her will. So with that little twist, she is still completely innocent until proven guilty.

So let's just hope that she is happy with amoroso getting custody of Bella's body.
 
  • #239
MA does have the joint venture law, but it will be up to the prosecutor how to charge them after the grand jury convenes.

The prosecutor can charge them anyway they like however I believe the defense attorneys/defendants can ask the judge for a separate trial.

Those matters (just like the change of venue) are often left up to the defense, if they ask for it and it is not granted that can open the door for appeals/retrial after a conviction. The defense teams already came to an agreement and asked that their discovery be kept separate and the judge agreed to that.


(d) Relief From Prejudicial Joinder.

(1) In General. If it appears that a joinder of offenses or of defendants is not in the best interests of justice, the judge may upon his own motion or the motion of either party order an election of separate trials of counts, grant a severance of defendants, or provide whatever other relief justice may require.

(2) Motion by the Defendant. A motion of the defendant for relief from prejudicial joinder shall be in writing and made before trial and shall be supported by an affidavit setting forth the grounds upon which any alleged prejudice rests, except that a motion for severance may be made before or at the close of all the evidence if based upon a ground not previously known.

http://www.mass.gov/courts/case-legal-res/rules-of-court/criminal-procedure/crim9.html
 
  • #240
BBM:
Exactly! We have to remember, RB, is considered innocent until convicted of something in a court of law. IF we all think back a few years, there was this situation in Fla. where a certain female signed over authority/responsibility of her daughter's body to her mother, who did what SHE wanted, not what the "next of kin" wanted!:tantrum:

I also am thinking that JA would be reluctant to provide DNA....for the financial reasons! The other challenge to take over responsibility/authority of the body could come from RB's MOTHER.....IF she wants to get into the fray~:thinking:

Maybe JA's DNA is already in "the system" somewhere and they have Bella's DNA which was a match to the DNA found in the small hairbrush found at the apartment?

I don't think Bella looks like JA, but I would like to see some of pictures of him with hair. Also, pictures of RB as a child and Bella's siblings would be interesting.

RB seems to be as skittish as a feral cat. Maybe JA's mom knew JA would be the only one who RB would have contact with considering Grandma surely was suspect that Baby Doe was indeed Bella.
 
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