MA - Bella Bond, 2, found dead, Deer Island, Boston Harbor, June 2015 - #6

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  • #701
Couldn't afford to take Bella to the aquarium but no problem buying alcohol and drugs with those disability checks.

Lowest of the low selfish scumbags. Fry them both!!!
 
  • #702
Unless for some strange reason that homeless shelter was different, here is my experience working with mothers in a shelter.

I was a teacher and worked with the children until they found stable housing. The shelter was in a beautiful new home in a nice neighborhood. The bedrooms were built for one family.

Because of the tremendous need, sometimes there were three families in that one bedroom. You could not hardly walk through the room because of the beds and dressers.

Picture families in major crisis. Children whose whole lives are disrupted. The chaos and drama even though staff worked on providing calm, safe counseling and opportunities.

Goals are made. Nonstop appts with therapists, job counselors, doctors, teachers, daycare providers housing advocates and often court for abusive bf's or spouses.

Can you even imagine the intense vibe in a shelter?

BTW, when people leave a shelter, they have nothing. Yes, you may look at RB and think, "Who cares?"

If you can, at your abused woman's shelter, there is always need for dressers, bookcases and most of all mattresses.

Where I lived, the women were given a voucher for a mattress from a local chain furniture store. Of course they have no transportation so hubby and I would go up there to get mattresses.

The free mattress is one from when they bring a new one and pick up the old discard.

I would look for ones with the least amount of stains. Then I would have hubby smell them.

I would tell the moms that this was the best we found.

Everyone was so grateful and said that they would cover them with plastic.

It was better than sleeping on a concrete floor of govt housing or on the filthy carpet of sec 8 housing.

The shelters in my city have no storage space. The abused woman's shelter has a guarded door and I am not sure how the average citizen would donate furniture. The need is so great.

RB is far more evil than most out there. The parents I met with did want better lives for their kids.

This will probably get deleted as off topic, but the women in the abused dhelter had lives that were so depressing. PG at 14 cuz sex abused. Looking for love so a couple more kids.

Have to work cuz of welfare sanctions, Taken advantage of by for profit schools. No way out of their impossible school debt. I can go on and on. I retired early cuz of the burnout.

I met so many women that I wanted to inject with the idea that they are worthy human beings deserving of love and happiness and opportunity.

:hug: Thank you for shining a light on the women and children that are homeless. You are a good person. It is a sad situation, but even one of us can make a small difference by the examples you have listed. It is good to be reminded that we are all humans and try to help our fellow humans. I have been harsh on RB. Everyone has their own demons to battle, RB just lost a very important battle with her own demons and, sadly, her child died because she could not overcome the power of the pull of heroin.
 
  • #703
At least now we know about "Auntie SHANNINN!"

I don't understand why she alienates the women in her life. Maybe because of her and her own mother's relationship - or lack of a relationship??
 
  • #704
I don't understand why she alienates the women in her life. Maybe because of her and her own mother's relationship - or lack of a relationship??


Maybe because she is just bat s**t nuts! imo of course.
 
  • #705
I don't understand why she alienates the women in her life. Maybe because of her and her own mother's relationship - or lack of a relationship??

It's often hard for people who have serious illnesses like PTSD to maintain long-term, close relationships. She might also have another (unknown to us, or undiagnosed) illness as well. I don't think it's surprising she drives everyone away. Or that they run either.
 
  • #706
Couldn't afford to take Bella to the aquarium but no problem buying alcohol and drugs with those disability checks.

Lowest of the low selfish scumbags. Fry them both!!!

You can get free passes to the aquarium at the library. Maybe they didn't know that.
 
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  • #708
POSTING STRICTLY AS A MEMBER HERE TO EXPRESS MY OWN OPINION:

RB did not dupe MM. Any more than MM held RB hostage. These two both are equally culpable and responsible for what was done to Bella and for her being now dead. Both of them. I believe MM killed Bella, I believe RB did nothing to stop or prevent it and may even have participated in and encouraged it. I believe both adults decided to cover it up in the manner it was covered up and both continue their binge without a second thought.

The end.

"The end". Brilliant. I think you covered what many of us think!

You can put your mod head back on now :)
 
  • #709
You can get free passes to the aquarium at the library. Maybe they didn't know that.

Library is free too, right? I'm guessing the library was lower down on the list of RB's priorities. How sad! Just thinking of all the books my son loved at 2-years-old. The Very Hungry Caterpillar, Goodnight Moon, Brown Bear Brown Bear What Do You See, Guess How Much I Love You, all of Dr. Seuss's book.
 
  • #710
AND........just to underscore a dismal fact: BELLA is just one child of MANY!

The manners of death these precious children experience are often brutal BUT for some, laying on an ice cold, metal table is the greatest relief from a life of torture & abuse. As I've said time & time again, it takes a village to raise a child BUT somehow, some way, some where....individual "freedoms" & self-interests have taken over as in "it's not my job, I can't get involved, don't have the time"!
 
  • #711
  • #712
I swear I just have a real problem believing any of these people. Everyone makes their story sound like were the only ones who cared for her. I just have a hard time believing them.....they all have some addiction or another.

I don't disagree with you at all, but I do find it interesting that all the addicts have similar experiences with rb.


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  • #713
Unless for some strange reason that homeless shelter was different, here is my experience working with mothers in a shelter.

I was a teacher and worked with the children until they found stable housing. The shelter was in a beautiful new home in a nice neighborhood. The bedrooms were built for one family.

Because of the tremendous need, sometimes there were three families in that one bedroom. You could not hardly walk through the room because of the beds and dressers.

Picture families in major crisis. Children whose whole lives are disrupted. The chaos and drama even though staff worked on providing calm, safe counseling and opportunities.

Goals are made. Nonstop appts with therapists, job counselors, doctors, teachers, daycare providers housing advocates and often court for abusive bf's or spouses.

Can you even imagine the intense vibe in a shelter?

BTW, when people leave a shelter, they have nothing. Yes, you may look at RB and think, "Who cares?"

If you can, at your abused woman's shelter, there is always need for dressers, bookcases and most of all mattresses.

Where I lived, the women were given a voucher for a mattress from a local chain furniture store. Of course they have no transportation so hubby and I would go up there to get mattresses.

The free mattress is one from when they bring a new one and pick up the old discard.

I would look for ones with the least amount of stains. Then I would have hubby smell them.

I would tell the moms that this was the best we found.

Everyone was so grateful and said that they would cover them with plastic.

It was better than sleeping on a concrete floor of govt housing or on the filthy carpet of sec 8 housing.

The shelters in my city have no storage space. The abused woman's shelter has a guarded door and I am not sure how the average citizen would donate furniture. The need is so great.

RB is far more evil than most out there. The parents I met with did want better lives for their kids.

This will probably get deleted as off topic, but the women in the abused dhelter had lives that were so depressing. PG at 14 cuz sex abused. Looking for love so a couple more kids.

Have to work cuz of welfare sanctions, Taken advantage of by for profit schools. No way out of their impossible school debt. I can go on and on. I retired early cuz of the burnout.

I met so many women that I wanted to inject with the idea that they are worthy human beings deserving of love and happiness and opportunity.

I'm obviously not a mod, but this seems very ON topic to me. Thank you!


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  • #714
I suspect Bond was attracted to MM for several reasons:

1. He had a car.

2. He probably got a check for his mental problems.

3. He was someone she could easily manipulate.

4. He knew where to get the good heroin.

I daresay she spotted him a mile away as a sucker...

Good points. I knew for heroine, but I never thought about how she was able to spot him as a sucker. But then I keep going back to the story of him being violent and abusive. I don't know.

How could he have not seen demons in HER?! I'm sane and I see evil in RB, NOT sweet Bella.
 
  • #715
If Taylor was still in RB's life, I think Bella would still be alive. Sad. JMO

I agree! And thx for posting the article!
 
  • #716
Do we know why there were no baby items in the house? Did she sell them? Anyone who knew her would have thought that strange- CPS has your child for a little bit and all traces of her have vanished?
 
  • #717
I don't understand why she alienates the women in her life. Maybe because of her and her own mother's relationship - or lack of a relationship??

Addicts know how to manipulate very well. Females may not get manipulated by another female for long, as they may give opinions when a child is involved. It is just easier to get rid of them. It becomes a revolving door.
 
  • #718
What other witnesses do they have? RB and MM were hanging around people like themselves.

Maybe this neighbor could be a witness outside of RB's circle. There may be others.


But in recent months, a new boyfriend had shown up, Torres said, with a face that looked “dead” and a hunched-over posture. Around the same time, she said, she stopped seeing the girl, and Bond withdrew. Bond stopped speaking to her, she said. Torres did not pry, because Bond seemed unstable.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...orities-say/wLIDYWKmrIBZZgBExcWRsI/story.html
 
  • #719
Good points. I knew for heroine, but I never thought about how she was able to spot him as a sucker. But then I keep going back to the story of him being violent and abusive. I don't know.

How could he have not seen demons in HER?! I'm sane and I see evil in RB, NOT sweet Bella.

It isnt the drugs that make them nuts.. they are crazy to begin with.. the drugs make them feel better.. the drugs empower them. Heroin doesnt make you see demons..he saw those independently. Many many many heroin addicts are functional. They go to work every day and maintain.. Soccer moms doing heroin is an epidemic. Eventually, they go over the edge and use obsessively and end up losing their jobs and family due to needing and wanting more and more to maintain...

IN MM and RB's case.. they were mentally ill and the heroin was a medication . IMO You will kill for that next fix.. but heroin is not hallucinogenic.. The demons he saw were part of his mental illness..IMO..

We have a mental illness crisis in this country. Every boob with 2 years beyond college taking "therapy' credits leading to a an "MS degree" can now hang out a shingle. Psychiatrists are all private pay. They simply will not take insurance. Who is really mucking around in the minds of people? APRNs who specialize in psych, PAs who specialize in Psych, social workers etc. They simply arent qualified.. they just arent. Look around.. more druggies, more murders, more mass killings.. yet we have better medication than they had 30 years ago.. We have better access to health care but not to psychiatry.. Yes, they knew right from wrong..maybe..that doesnt help when people are being slaughtered, abused and neglected.

More psychiatrists, more psych in patient facilities that are low cost or free, more rules in these "shelters".. you stay here you need to get psychiatric care..and zero tolerance for people who live on the streets. If you are a danger to yourself ( living on a park bench in the snow) you are admitted to a facility. If you are a danger to others you go LONG TERM to a mental health hospital. the average stay is around 7 days.. Time to start sweeping up the streets.. looking in the shadows, holding these Psych counselors accountable and get the job done. It is a guessing game. they ask "are you suicidal?" no. "Are you homicidal?" no. OK see ya next week. It is Russian roulette.

Anything I write is just my opinion.
 
  • #720
I don't understand why she alienates the women in her life. Maybe because of her and her own mother's relationship - or lack of a relationship??

Because she cannot manipulate them like she can manipulate males. As my mother would say, she can't "gootchy-goo" other women.
 
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