MA - Bella Bond, 2, found dead, Deer Island, Boston Harbor, June 2015 - #6

[Sonya610]

I wonder if Shapiro is working on a timeline for McCarthy that will possibly say he wasn't even at the apartment at the time Bella disappeared.

I wonder how they could prove/disprove a timeline. These folks don't work, they don't keep any sort of schedule, their friends are all druggies with bad memories, most surveillance tapes don't go back that far, it would be very difficult.

Plus they don't have a date of death which makes it even harder to prove.

 

[Bootsctr]

Great point! Do they keep any kind of records at the methadone clinics? I guess if you're getting heroine you're not standing in line to get the methadone.

I wonder why MM said Easter specifically? Do they have Easter egg hunts in these type of neighborhoods? I'm guessing they didn't really socialize with neighbors and have block parties, etc. If Bella was not gone at Easter, then it seems Rachelle would have gotten her an Easter basket and candy. Dying eggs is always a fun tradition. Maybe not if you're the kid of a druggie. Poor Bella! She deserved so much better than she received.

 

[Mollyandme]

I agre with you that the prosecution doesn't have much of a case (from what we know of the evidence released publicly). It bothers me that they arrested RB and MM as soon as they identified Bella. It goes from "We have no idea who this little girl is and do not even know the COD" to "We can prosecute both!" I really think they are just praying that they find enough evidence before the trial (and even before that---they have to send it to the defense and present in front of the judges months earlier). This is such a high-profile case in Massachusetts that if they don't find enough evidence, will they drop the case? A new article says they are doing another autopsy....they are desperate to find evidence on Bella before she is put into the ground. I have absolutely no idea how they will prove MM murdered Bella, not RB, or both together.

My post was replying to this sentiment that I sometimes see around WS where people will say that the prosecution's case is a slamdunk, yet the defense can bring up any crazy theory with nothing to back it up, and the jury will be running to vote "Not guilty". I don't think OP meant that in their post, I just used their post as a jumping off post to post something that frusturates me.

I agree with everything you posted. Bc Rochelle did implicate herself to police when it came to being an accessory after the fact, didn't they have to charge her then for that? At this point thats all she is charged with. I think they totally misread MM based on what the tipster made him sound like and what RB made him sound like. Wow did RB underestimate his ability to keep his mouth shut and stick to whatever their story was, or if he really wasn't involved, stick to what RB told him and lawyer up.

 

[katydid23]

I don't think these two are going to walk away, free. from this. There is evidence that the baby was living with her so called mother, in that apt. There are pictures, videos and texts and FB posts showing her living there. Then she is gone. Mom points at MM and he plays dumb and says CPS took her. Just because they are both telling different stories it does not mean they get to walk away, uncharged. Someone dumped that sweet baby in the garbage bag and they were the last ones known to have her in their care. They need to do more than shrug their shoulders to get out of this situation, imo.

 

[Steleheart]

http://www.eagletribune.com/news/ne...cle_5e737920-140d-5a07-a94d-60b2641a6e4f.html

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"Giant boxes bearing a photo of Bella Bond can be found in stores across the region.
A group of South Shore, Mass., mothers is asking for help filling them with stuffed animals, blankets, pillow cases, pajamas and notes of encouragement for children in need."

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"These women are making up backpacks with all of the donations for kids that are in transition," said JoAnn Paolino, who is helping bring the fundraiser to New Hampshire. "When these kids have to be taken from their homes, they only have the clothes on their back."

"The Suffolk County District Attorney's Office said it is not ruling out additional charges against the mother and her boyfriend."

 

[wondering25]

http://www.eagletribune.com/news/ne...cle_5e737920-140d-5a07-a94d-60b2641a6e4f.html

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"Giant boxes bearing a photo of Bella Bond can be found in stores across the region.
A group of South Shore, Mass., mothers is asking for help filling them with stuffed animals, blankets, pillow cases, pajamas and notes of encouragement for children in need."

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"These women are making up backpacks with all of the donations for kids that are in transition," said JoAnn Paolino, who is helping bring the fundraiser to New Hampshire. "When these kids have to be taken from their homes, they only have the clothes on their back."

"The Suffolk County District Attorney's Office said it is not ruling out additional charges against the mother and her boyfriend."

I dont know.. how do these backpacks even get to the kids.. there are all kinds of privacy laws. While it is laudable, imo to do SOMETHING, I am not seeing what this really does??? It makes the donors feel good.. it may never reach the kids in transition and it doesnt get to the root problem..an out of control system where kids are being abused at home and never go "into transition".

In Bella's case, she would not have been able to read any "note of encouragement". I hate to be a sour puss but IMO the whole process would be better served if people kept their eyes open, wrote to their legislators and asked for new and tougher laws and policies. MOO

Anything i write is just my opinion.

 

[Steleheart]

I dont know.. how do these backpacks even get to the kids.. there are all kinds of privacy laws. While it is laudable, imo to do SOMETHING, I am not seeing what this really does??? It makes the donors feel good.. it may never reach the kids in transition and it doesnt get to the root problem..an out of control system where kids are being abused at home and never go "into transition".

In Bella's case, she would not have been able to read any "note of encouragement". I hate to be a sour puss but IMO the whole process would be better served if people kept their eyes open, wrote to their legislators and asked for new and tougher laws and policies. MOO

Anything i write is just my opinion.

Or you could do some reading about this project, These mothers and how they are helping. Check their facebook, the link highlighted in the article and how it all relates to the project "Comfort Cases for Kids in Care."

They have a direct connection with the Governor's office, most of the boxes have already been distributed in backpacks.

I see these women acting and not just complaining or wishing. So why tear it apart? I would like some honest reasons we should tell them not to bother because the system is broken and they should not take personal action.


ETA: Because it is a fund raising and donation project I am not allowed to post links to it but the link in the news article gives a start. From there start sleuthing.
Facebook and other social media are sources as well as other avenues like names of people involved. The answers to your questions are searchable in ways other than abstract speculation.


MOO

 

[wondering25]

Or you could do some reading about this project, These mothers and how they are helping. Check their facebook, the link highlighted in the article and how it all relates to the project "Comfort Cases for Kids in Care."

They have a direct connection with the Governor's office, most of the boxes have already been distributed in backpacks.

I see these women acting and not just complaining or wishing. So why tear it apart? I would like some honest reasons we should tell them not to bother because the system is broken and they should not take personal action.


ETA: Because it is a fund raising and donation project I am not allowed to post links to it but the link in the news article gives a start. From there start sleuthing.
Facebook and other social media are sources as well as other avenues like names of people involved. The answers to your questions are searchable in ways other than abstract speculation.


MOO

It is a noble gesture. It is being done in Bella's name. It is kindness.. I understand all of that. It does nothing for children stuck in abused homes where there is no out.. which is what Bella was all about. That is all i am saying. If Bella's likeness is going to be used then address the real problem..Children in horrible situations who are flying under the radar.. what can be done for them? I give and give.. and i know most of these national charities are now being exposed.. 10 cents on a dollar is what the charity gets.. I prefer to donate locally and I DO.

I would like to see a Bella law.. something that has teeth and grit. I applaud any charitable work, including "transition back packs"s. It is sweet. IT doesnt get to the core..it doesnt save the other Bella's. These children who receive the backpacks are the lucky ones.. they have been removed from horrible surroundings.. to go , hopefully to better places.. or maybe not..

My feelings on this are very strong and very personal.. i did many types of nursing for many years and saw abused and neglected children go back to families even when i reported it in the course of my employment. Cigarette burns, the clear imprint of an iron on a child's thigh, Munchausen's by proxy.

I wish Bella had been fortunate enough to receive a transition back pack. i wouldnt be sitting here typing this if she had been.

Anything i write is just my opinion

 

[Sparky]

Please stay on topic. This is Bella's thread.

Thank you!

 

[Steleheart]

http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/30...ires-volunteers-to-help-local-foster-children

"They want to make sure that no other child endures what Bella did.

They have an assembly line going inside a Braintree storefront. The volunteers decided to collect donations of clothing, toothbrushes, and toys for children who suddenly find themselves away from their families and in foster care."

“The child is very self-aware that they don't have anything around them that they’re used to and that they are not dressed appropriately,”

 

[Steleheart]

Millions of people shared and contributed to finding an identity for this mysterious "Baby Doe" found on "DEER Island. A Baby Deer.

Thousands of LE and forensic researchers in multi-state agencies and labs made it their personal obsession.

We here on Websleuths and all who continue to follow and contribute made Baby Doe a part of their lives. It was excruciating how it took so long. Some could say it was all for naught and in the end just some random friend identified her but that is not so.

http://www.people.com/article/baby-doe-murder-details-emerge-mom-boyfriend-arraigned
"But the friend was already suspicious, and called his sister and asked her to pass along the Baby Doe advisory: He had heard about Baby Doe, but hadn't seen the computer-generated image of the dead little girl. When he saw it, he immediately noticed the striking resemblance to Bella.

He then texted McCarthy: "Baby Doe, ring a bell?" At that point, the friend's sister called police to tell them what she knew.

Yup - "BABY DOE" - because of the advertising and the sharing and the awareness, discussion and dedication.

"Baby Doe, ring a bell?" Imagine if it did not.

MOO

 

[Bobbywoo]

http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/30...ires-volunteers-to-help-local-foster-children

"They want to make sure that no other child endures what Bella did.

They have an assembly line going inside a Braintree storefront. The volunteers decided to collect donations of clothing, toothbrushes, and toys for children who suddenly find themselves away from their families and in foster care."

“The child is very self-aware that they don't have anything around them that they’re used to and that they are not dressed appropriately,”

Very sweet. Something that everone should take time out to do every once in a while, not only when tragedy strikes. With every tragedy hopefully comes awareness. These problems were going on long before Bella was even a glimmer in two losers eyes.

 

[justwannahelp]

Still no updated mugshots? I just want to see the look on rachelle's face in her mugshot. If she's smiling like the one that's old or if she's remorseful or if she's sad or if she's mad...

 

[Amonet]

Does anyone have any idea if there will be cameras at the hearing on the 20th?

I am so hoping new information will come up then, and maybe extra charges for RB...

 

[KaraKitty]

Does anyone have any idea if there will be cameras at the hearing on the 20th?

I am so hoping new information will come up then, and maybe extra charges for RB...

I was just going to post the same thing, Amonet.

Or being as I am in CA, I would get up to watch it streaming anywhere.

TY for any info anyone can post about the hearing on the Oct 20th.

The day is finally here and maybe we will get some more info about Baby Bella and her last days.

 

[Steleheart]

The hearing on the 20'th is a probable cause hearing. They were first arraigned in district court which is basically just a formal statement of the charges and bail requirements.. The next step is a hearing;

http://www.wbur.org/2015/09/21/bella-bond-arraignment
"The two appeared in Dorchester Municipal Court Monday, standing behind a glass partition, and are due back in court on Oct. 20 for a probable cause hearing."

These quotes are out of order but;

http://www.mass.gov/courts/case-legal-res/rules-of-court/criminal-procedure/crim3.html
"(2) Probable Cause Requirement. The appropriate judicial officer shall not authorize a complaint unless the information presented by the complainant establishes probable cause to believe that the person against whom the complaint is sought committed an offense."

"If the District Court finds that there is probable cause to believe that the defendant committed the crime or crimes alleged in the complaint, the court shall bind the defendant over to the Superior Court. If the District Court finds that there is no probable cause to believe that the defendant committed the crime or crimes alleged in the complaint, the court shall dismiss the complaint."

"b) Right to Indictment. A defendant charged with an offense punishable by imprisonment in state prison shall have the right to be proceeded against by indictment except when the offense charged is within the concurrent jurisdiction of the District and Superior Courts and the District Court retains jurisdiction."

(d) Transmission of Papers. If the defendant is bound over to the Superior Court for trial after a finding of probable cause or after the defendant waives a probable cause hearing, the clerk of the District Court shall transmit to the clerk of the Superior Court a copy of the complaint and of the record; the original recognizances; a list of the witnesses; a statement of the expenses and the appearance of the attorney for the defendant, if any is entered; the waiver of the right to be proceeded against by indictment, if any is executed; the pretrial conference report, if any has been filed; and the report of the department of mental health as to the mental condition of the defendant, if such report has been filed under the provisions of the General Laws.

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IMO more than likely the defendants may not even show up for the hearing. We will NOT find out any other evidence other than that which is necessary for the complaint which has already been presented.
IMO since the prosecution has held them on such high bail pending the ongoing investigation, there will very likely be a GJ indictment after this hearing for each and a high probability that more charges will follow.
IMO an indictment is possibly many months away. A trial will follow the indictments and that, IMO is likely at least 2 years away.
If they wave their right to indictment they may be remanded to Superior Court for trial. There could still be an indictment even if they wave it as is my sense because I think there will be additional charges and those will be the result of a Grand Jury.
This has been my experience in similar high profile cases.

MOO

 

[KaraKitty]

Thank you very much for your post, Steleheart.

 

[Aleph]

Let's hope tomorrow moves us closer to getting justice for Bella.


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[KaraKitty]

Let's hope tomorrow moves us closer to getting justice for Bella.

ITA, prayers for little sweet BELLA. xo

 

[Dogface]

I won't be able to follow too closely tomorrow, but will try to check in. My nearly 3 year old somehow put an eraser from the end of a pencil in her ear while I was changing the laundry and we rushed her to a care now clinic where they proceeded to push it further in her ear canal before sending us home and telling us to follow up with an ENT, then her pediatrician looked at it as our ENT(who is one of best in world) was out of town, and told us she may have a hole in her ear drum, so tomorrow we finally get to see our ENT, and I'm hoping it goes well. Thankfully she isn't bothered by it! But my thoughts will definitely be heavy with the hope of justice for Bella.