MA - Bella Bond, 2, found dead, Deer Island, Boston Harbor, June 2015 - #8

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  • #421
I don't know if this has already been discussed, I've only seen people saying that they're confused over whether or not RB walking free through the plea deal means that is it as far as charges against her go.

And I don't know if this site is acceptable for a link, but here's some stuff about double jeopardy in the USA

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/double+jeopardy

From what I understand and what I can see in there and compare to the case, I don't see why RB couldn't face a murder charge after the trial if evidence comes up in court that makes the DA's office think those charges are warranted and have a reasonable chance of a conviction.

Although the accessory after the fact charge relates to Bella's death it's 'after the fact' and a murder charge is 'before/during the fact'. We only really have RB's testimony that there was probably at least 24 hours between Bella's death and the subsequent disposal of the body...but even that gives a time interval, and the fridge could give a longer time interval of up to several weeks. I could well be wrong, but I think there might be a potential for a murder charge? The problem is to get it to stick, because MM being acquitted would not automatically mean that RB is guilty....from a legal standpoint, as I understand it, RB would still be innocent and still subject to reasonable doubt in any trial on her, and MM's acquittal would not be evidence of RB's guilt (my understanding).

I'm not sure that a plea deal with MM would have been possible. He's claiming he didn't know about Bella's death, so what charges could be brought against him to plea down? They can't charge him as accessory after the fact if he says he thought Bella was with DCF/DSS. By claiming he didn't know Bella was dead, MM couldn't give useful evidence against RB as murderer...whereas she is offering testimony that she walked into a room and saw MM standing over Bella's dead body and that MM forced her into driving to the seafront where he dumped Bella's body. "I didn't know Bella was dead" wouldn't have the power that RB's story had.

As we do seem to be seeing some grounds for reasonable doubt, I do hope I'm not wrong about the double jeopardy thing and that the DA will bring a murder charge against RB. But, I do think it would be harder to convict her.

ETA, logically I must be wrong, because you can't simultaneously be an accessory after the fact and also a murderer, they're mutually exclusive and therefore subject to double jeopardy. Well that sucks.

ETA 2 .... I was going to suggest that maybe the plea deal can be withdrawn to end the jeopardy? I don't know if that would work. But the other thing is that if RB is deemed to be lying on the stand, surely that creates a situation akin to mistrial and would thereby end her jeopardy and allow the DA to reconsider the charges against her???
 
  • #422
Can anyone help with copying over tweets today? I can't give it my full attention as I am also studying :(
 
  • #423
I can do that for you - are they going until 4pm EST?? If so, I'll have to stop at about 2pm, and if someone else can take over then?? that's 2pm EST!
 
  • #424
[video=twitter;872442180715106304]https://twitter.com/AlyshaNBCBoston/status/872442180715106304[/video]

[video=twitter;872442486249185281]https://twitter.com/AlyshaNBCBoston/status/872442486249185281[/video]

hmmmm.... might not have court today, if a juror is sick....
 
  • #425
I can do that for you - are they going until 4pm EST?? If so, I'll have to stop at about 2pm, and if someone else can take over then?? that's 2pm EST!

I'll take a break from my books at that time & take over. Need to work out what that is GMT :D
 
  • #426
[video=twitter;872442753065594881]https://twitter.com/AlyshaNBCBoston/status/872442753065594881[/video]


Oops I didn't read that write - 1/2 hour late - no wonder I'm only seeing a cityline...

:waiting:
 
  • #427
[video=twitter;872442180715106304]https://twitter.com/AlyshaNBCBoston/status/872442180715106304[/video]

[video=twitter;872442486249185281]https://twitter.com/AlyshaNBCBoston/status/872442486249185281[/video]

hmmmm.... might not have court today, if a juror is sick....

They are, just delaying slightly. They have alternatives anyway?
 
  • #428
JerricaBenton said:
I'll take a break from my books at that time & take over. Need to work out what that is GMT :D

Well, let's see - I'm 7 hours ahead of the East Coast time, and I "believe" I'm 3 hours ahead of GMT. I know I'm 2 hours ahead of London! :D

it's 4:25pm Eastern European Time - and 9:25pm Eastern Time

I'm in the future! :skip:
 
  • #429
Another OOPS!

it's 4:25pm Eastern European Time - and 9:25pm Eastern Time

That SHOULD have read 9:25AM Eastern Time! I can't edit my post anymore.... :gaah:

Still waiting for tweets - I'm only following Alysha Palmumbo's, if that's okay?
 
  • #430
[video=twitter;872445004098220033]https://twitter.com/AlyshaNBCBoston/status/872445004098220033[/video]

[video=twitter;872445354893029376]https://twitter.com/AlyshaNBCBoston/status/872445354893029376[/video]
 
  • #431
[video=twitter;872444135755702273]https://twitter.com/nbcboston/status/872444135755702273[/video]


I can hear someone talking.... I believe we are live!
 
  • #432
[video=twitter;872446513133309952]https://twitter.com/AlyshaNBCBoston/status/872446513133309952[/video]

[video=twitter;872446744470093824]https://twitter.com/AlyshaNBCBoston/status/872446744470093824[/video]

[video=twitter;872446947545710596]https://twitter.com/AlyshaNBCBoston/status/872446947545710596[/video]



What's that black box with the vertical red lights for?? And where is the guy that usually sits there - and what does he do??

:)

And sidebar - we are still awaiting the juror to arrive. Per Judge
 
  • #433
UK is five hours ahead.

1:00pm Boston would be 6:00pm UK
2:00pm Boston would be 7:00pm UK

Court usually has lunch break 1:00-2:00

Thank you Niner & Jerrica for posting tweets!
 
  • #434
[video=twitter;872447245848899584]https://twitter.com/AlyshaNBCBoston/status/872447245848899584[/video]
 
  • #435
[video=twitter;872447776151490560]https://twitter.com/AlyshaNBCBoston/status/872447776151490560[/video]
 
  • #436
Isn't there some kind Senate hearing today at 5pm EST?? I know Comey is tomorrow, which I definitely want to watch.

Anyone know the answers to my questions - about that black box? :D

and :waiting: for the juror....
 
  • #437
Looks like they left the camera on in the court room.
 
  • #438
I wonder who they will call next. I am anxious to hear MM's side of the story.
 
  • #439
atm9533 said:
I wonder who they will call next. I am anxious to hear MM's side of the story.

I read "somewhere" it will be Bella's biological father - Amoroso ? spelling? The sperm donator....
 
  • #440
I have no idea about the blackbox.
I think Amaroso is up after RB? Maybe today or maybe tomorrow.
 
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