GUILTY MA - Colleen Ritzer, 24, brutally murdered, Danvers, 22 Oct 2013 #1

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Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago Marshall works for town Danvers. Was night custodian at Danvers High at time of murder

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
He left job at DHS in 2014, went to work at electric light dept

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
At DHS, Marshall worked 3-11 with another custodian named Chuck

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
S & J cleaning company also worked at school

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
ADA asking him about the work night, duties he and Chuck had, who carried keys

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
That night Pimental came to him looking for a hose. Chuck was with him

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
Spoke to him in broken English, he understood he needed a hose, said there was "blue" on the floor

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 59s60 seconds ago
Marshall thought a cleaner of some sort was on bathroom floor

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
Gave Pimental hose and a key to turn on wall spigot

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 35s35 seconds ago
No defense questions for Marshall. His testimony is done. Next up is Tom McNally
 
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Smh ... People supervising folks that only speak Spanish should know the language. Smh. That should be a prerequisite for the position :moo:

Or else within the school contract they should ensure that at least as supervisor can speak English :moo:

I wonder who else was let go due to this
 
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When they zoomed in on that photo yesterday I was like WTH is that media person thinking when they zoomed in on a personal Attorney document ... I thought WHOA .. That will get them kicked out of the courtroom. I watched CroakerQueen afterwards and did not realize jurors were shown. :facepalm:

If I was the prosecutor, I would be LIVID. That's so irresponsible of the media.
 
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Victoria WarrenVerified account ‏@vwarrenon7 1m1 minute ago Next witness: Thomas McNally - does crime scene clean up.

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 48s49 seconds ago
Goes to crime scenes and disaster, rectify situation and return to natural state, McNally said

Laura Crimaldi ‏@lauracrimaldi 46s46 seconds ago
McNally says the first area the cleaning crew addressed were woods near Danvers High.

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 48s48 seconds ago
McNally shown aerial photo of Danvers High, talks about blood in wooded area behind school

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 27s28 seconds ago
Describes area where found blood on leaves and sticks, area was about 6x10 feet square, we always walk around to make sure we get everythng

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 17s17 seconds ago
McNally"in my personal opinion it looked like a grave ... It was likes square was cut out of the ground there."

Laura Crimaldi ‏@lauracrimaldi 33s33 seconds ago
McNally says his crew set up a grid and picked up all the bloodied leaves, branches and debris.

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
McNally said they also cleaned up a second area

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 57s58 seconds ago
Said there was debris around boulders in the wooded area

Victoria WarrenVerified account ‏@vwarrenon7 1m1 minute ago
McNally says branches at crime scene were too heavy to be there naturally.


Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
After the woods, McNally and his team went inside Danvers High

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
Was asked by his boss to clean the mobile floor scrubber Pimental used to clean girls bath

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
He dissembled the machine, uses laser pointer to show areas of machine he cleaned. Saw blood inside and blood on wheels
 
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Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
"I put my rag in there and when you pulled it out there was so much blood on it," McNally said. Thinks rag was taken

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
Wheels were so bloody that McNally said it was safer not to put them back on machine

Victoria WarrenVerified account ‏@vwarrenon7 2m2 minutes ago
McNally found a diamond stud earring in machine used to clean bathroom.

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
Took a long time to clean the machine

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
One of his colleagues had seen a trail of blood on sidewalk in front of DHS

Rupa Shenoy ‏@RupaShenoy 2m2 minutes ago Salem, MA
Now under defense questioning, McNally says another member of the cleaning crew had seen "a trail of blood on the sidewalk."

Rupa Shenoy ‏@RupaShenoy 1m1 minute ago Salem, MA
McNally: the trail of blood led to the woods, which he was asked to clean.

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
Osler only asks him a few brief questions about school grounds, McNally now off the stand
 
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Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 45s46 seconds ago
Next witness is Kelley King of Mass state police crime lab

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 29s30 seconds ago
A forensic scientist, King is now detailing her training and experience

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
She's trained to identify and examine blood, semen, gunshot residue and more

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
She works on call, is called to go to crime scenes, works alongside state police

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account ‏@Bward3 2m2 minutes ago
King Arrived at DHS 2:10AM It was dark. #fox25 #PhilipChism Was directed to a mowed lawn area.

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
Shown of pic of that night, truck was providing light in the area

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 53s54 seconds ago
Picture now up on projection screen in courtroom
 
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Victoria WarrenVerified account ‏@vwarrenon7 1m1 minute ago Next witness: Thomas McNally - does crime scene clean up.

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 48s49 seconds ago
Goes to crime scenes and disaster, rectify situation and return to natural state, McNally said

Laura Crimaldi ‏@lauracrimaldi 46s46 seconds ago
McNally says the first area the cleaning crew addressed were woods near Danvers High.

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 48s48 seconds ago
McNally shown aerial photo of Danvers High, talks about blood in wooded area behind school

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 27s28 seconds ago
Describes area where found blood on leaves and sticks, area was about 6x10 feet square, we always walk around to make sure we get everythng

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 17s17 seconds ago
McNally"in my personal opinion it looked like a grave ... It was likes square was cut out of the ground there."

Laura Crimaldi ‏@lauracrimaldi 33s33 seconds ago
McNally says his crew set up a grid and picked up all the bloodied leaves, branches and debris.

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
McNally said they also cleaned up a second area

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 57s58 seconds ago
Said there was debris around boulders in the wooded area

Victoria WarrenVerified account ‏@vwarrenon7 1m1 minute ago
McNally says branches at crime scene were too heavy to be there naturally.


Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
After the woods, McNally and his team went inside Danvers High

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
Was asked by his boss to clean the mobile floor scrubber Pimental used to clean girls bath

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
He dissembled the machine, uses laser pointer to show areas of machine he cleaned. Saw blood inside and blood on wheels

WTH !! Even after they knew it was a crime scene they were told to clean the floor cleaning equipment that they knew was used to clean up the murder scene?

I have no words..... Hopefully they have learned their lesson.. and their protocols and training have changed... which seems intuitively obvious to the most casual observer here. :pullhair:
 
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Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
"I put my rag in there and when you pulled it out there was so much blood on it," McNally said. Thinks rag was taken

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
Wheels were so bloody that McNally said it was safer not to put them back on machine

Victoria WarrenVerified account ‏@vwarrenon7 2m2 minutes ago
McNally found a diamond stud earring in machine used to clean bathroom.

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
Took a long time to clean the machine

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
One of his colleagues had seen a trail of blood on sidewalk in front of DHS

Rupa Shenoy ‏@RupaShenoy 2m2 minutes ago Salem, MA
Now under defense questioning, McNally says another member of the cleaning crew had seen "a trail of blood on the sidewalk."

Rupa Shenoy ‏@RupaShenoy 1m1 minute ago Salem, MA
McNally: the trail of blood led to the woods, which he was asked to clean.

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
Osler only asks him a few brief questions about school grounds, McNally now off the stand

I am still reading through ...I didn't think it could be any worse but it is... They knew it was a crime scene and they are sending janitors to clean it up .. unbelievable
 
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Jacct :blowkiss: for the tweets!

I cannot follow other than here on phone tapatalk and so much appreciate you sharing and posting all those tweets.
 
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Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
When she arrives at a crime scene, she first talks to LEOs there trying to get as much info as poss

Laura Crimaldi ‏@lauracrimaldi 1m1 minute ago
Around 3 p.m., King says she, a state trooper, and her trainee walked down a path in woods near Danvers High

Victoria WarrenVerified account ‏@vwarrenon7 1m1 minute ago
King (forensic scientist): There was a recycling barrel tilted on it's side and clothing next to it.

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
King looking at another pic of some boulders in woods, she says it's an accurate depiction of that area night of murder

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
Now on courtroom screen, large pic of woods behind DHS night of murder

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
King says her attention was drawn to an area of disturbed leaves

allison manningVerified account ‏@allymanning 1m1 minute ago
Walking through the path, the trainee pointed out a human toe, with pink nail polish, poking out of the leaves.

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 26s26 seconds ago
She uses laser pointer to show exact spot where Ritzer toe was

Victoria WarrenVerified account ‏@vwarrenon7 59s59 seconds ago
First picture of Colleen Ritzer's body entered into evidence. #PhilipChism glancing as photo displayed. Body covered by leaves except toe.

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 32s33 seconds ago
A paramedic came and uncovered her face. Determination "that she was deceased" was made King said
 
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Laurel J. SweetVerified account ‏@Laurel_Sweet 2m2 minutes ago
Tom Ritzer lowers his eyes as a photo of his daughter blanketed in leaves and twigs, one toe exposed, is shown to court

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJil

They started processing areas inside DHS waiting for better natural lighting for outside crime scene

Laura Crimaldi ‏@lauracrimaldi 1m1 minute ago
King says her next stop was inside the 2d floor bathroom where Ritzer was attacked. She says she made a rough sketch.

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
She made a rough sketch of bathroom and then decided to process certain areas

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
Found blood stains in hallway, blood stains and transfer stains in bathroom

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
Blood stains next to hand dryer, radiator

Julie Manganis ‏@SNJulieManganis 2m2 minutes ago
Despite the amount of cleaning done King finds a number of red brown stains - blood - on walls and in stall.

Laura Crimaldi ‏@lauracrimaldi 2m2 minutes ago
King says outside the bathroom there was red brown "transfer stain." It suggests something blood was wiped against the floor.

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 4m4 minutes ago
Crime scene pic of bathroom now on projection screen for jurors. King uses laser pointer to show areas where blood found

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 4m4 minutes ago
Blood analysis can show how a crime happens, she explains

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 50s50 seconds ago
Another pic of blood stains in bathroom on projection screen now

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
King says not enough blood there though to make a conclusion as to how it got there

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 35s35 seconds ago
King now using laser pointer to show and explain blood in another pic of bathroom door jamb

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 14s14 seconds ago
Also stains in regular bathroom stall and handicapped stall King said
 
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Bob Ward Fox25Verified account ‏@Bward3 43s43 seconds ago
Osler: Entire floor covered in blood?Pimental YesOsler: ever see that much blood in school b4?Pimental: never

Laura Crimaldi ‏@lauracrimaldi 51s51 seconds ago
Defense attorney John Osler is now cross examining Pimentel.

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 47s48 seconds ago
Osler asks if it looked like a student had a nosebleed? I could not differentiate, Pimental says

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
Osler asking Pimental about machine he used to clean up blood

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
Pimental says blood was running out from underneath bathroom stalls

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
"I had never seen anything like it," Pimental said. Told defense investigator bathroom looked like a slaughterhouse

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
Pimental testimony done. Next witness is Dan Marshall


WTH? I'm stunned. Not that I expected it to be only a little bit of blood, and I had read before that the cleaning crew cleaned it before LE got to it, but hearing it like this .... why did he not dial 911 immediately? Looked like a slaughterhouse .... did he maybe think women bleed like that normally during their periods? Or what was he thinking? Wow :facepalm:
 
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Rupa Shenoy ‏@RupaShenoy 1m1 minute ago Salem, MA Remaining red-brown stain evidence in bathroom was tough to analyze because it was "altered" by cleaners, king says.

Laura Crimaldi ‏@lauracrimaldi 1m1 minute ago
Two blood stains were found on a doorway: one looked like blood that had dripped. The other looked like blood wiped on door.

allison manningVerified account ‏@allymanning 50s50 seconds ago
All of the stains in the bathroom screened positive for blood.

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 54s55 seconds ago
If bleach has been used she gets a black color. She did get bright blue color in DHS bathroom which indicates blood

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account ‏@Bward3 1m1 minute ago
King: After, watched video to direct where to test next. Was drawn to door way that leads out of HS.

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account ‏@Bward3 2m2 minutes ago
King: Red blood stains on door, vestibule, and sidewalk

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account ‏@Bward3 1m1 minute ago
King; Screening tests revealed blood, except one stain on floor was negative.

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 48s48 seconds ago
King now looking at doorway pic where blood stains were found at DHS

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account ‏@Bward3 55s56 seconds ago
We are seeing pictures showing blood stain on sidewalk. King calls it a drip stain.

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 52s52 seconds ago
King looking at pic of another drip stain on a door
 
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allison manningVerified account ‏@allymanning

More description of drip stains near the entrance. #PhilipChism We are in morning recess and jury will be back at 11:15a.

Julie Manganis ‏@SNJulieManganis
Lawyers are at sidebar.

Laurel J. SweetVerified account ‏@Laurel_Sweet 3m3 minutes ago During morning recess, we stay is session as a female juror is brought out to talk to Judge Lowy
 
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I thought the same. Unbelievable.

Yeah but I would put the question more to the administration why they are hiring crews that are Spanish speaking only and don't have in their contract that there must be english-speaking folks or Danny, the go between, could not speak Spanish. Major fail in my opinion. Unexcusable oversight :moo :

Blue vs blood ..really. :pullhair:
 
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WTH !! Even after they knew it was a crime scene they were told to clean the floor cleaning equipment that they knew was used to clean up the murder scene?

I have no words..... Hopefully they have learned their lesson.. and their protocols and training have changed... which seems intuitively obvious to the most casual observer here. :pullhair:

I am still reading through ...I didn't think it could be any worse but it is... They knew it was a crime scene and they are sending janitors to clean it up .. unbelievable


I think this crew was a legit crime scene clean up crew that came later. Those were not janitors.

"Next witness: Thomas McNally - does crime scene clean up."

"Goes to crime scenes and disaster, rectify situation and return to natural state, McNally said"
 
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WTH? I'm stunned. Not that I expected it to be only a little bit of blood, and I had read before that the cleaning crew cleaned it before LE got to it, but hearing it like this .... why did he not dial 911 immediately? Looked like a slaughterhouse .... did he maybe think women bleed like that normally during their periods? Or what was he thinking? Wow :facepalm:

I will give him more of a pass than I do for the person that he reported it to as his supervisor?
 
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allison manningVerified account ‏@allymanning

More description of drip stains near the entrance. #PhilipChism We are in morning recess and jury will be back at 11:15a.

Julie Manganis ‏@SNJulieManganis
Lawyers are at sidebar.

Laurel J. SweetVerified account ‏@Laurel_Sweet 3m3 minutes ago During morning recess, we stay is session as a female juror is brought out to talk to Judge Lowy

Did anyone else text before this morning that the jurors were on video yesterday?
 
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I will give him more of a pass than I do for the person that he reported it to as his supervisor?

I agree - the cleaning service guy at least paused, and went to inform the building supervisor (or whatever Danny and Chuck were) to let him know there's a situation - so he hands him a hose? Really?
Anything that was all over that bathroom and needed to be hosed down, wouldn't that warrant a look? Even if he thought it was 'blue'. Ridiculous, IMO

I believe no one knew yet that the teacher was even missing, let alone murdered. Not that it's any excuse. The bathroom is covered in blood, get up a check what's up, don't just hand him a hose, and a key for the spigot - go see why he felt the need to tell you.
 
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