GUILTY MA - Colleen Ritzer, 24, brutally murdered, Danvers, 22 Oct 2013 #1

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  • #821
The DA is most likely right. PC is trying to manipulate the court.
 
  • #822
The DA is most likely right. PC is trying to manipulate the court.

It's good this came up now. Have him evaluated to determine competency and have expert testimony about the manipulation. The judge can then pre-determine what to do if Chism pulls this again during the trial. If Chism truly incompetent then the judge can hold the trial until he is competent.
 
  • #823
Laurel J. Sweet ‏@Laurel_Sweet
Lowy orders lawyers back at 9 a.m,, when he plans to appoint independent experts on competency to evaluate #PhilipChism.

Laurel J. Sweet ‏@Laurel_Sweet
Trial teams' own experts both out of state and Lowy growing impatient. #PhilipChism

Laurel J. Sweet ‏@Laurel_Sweet
Lowy asking Jury Commissioner Pamela Wood to tell prospective jurors to sit tight until at least next Wednesday, #PhilipChism

Laurel J. Sweet ‏@Laurel_Sweet
Prosecutors originally hoped to have opening statements Tuesday. Now all bets are off . #PhilipChism
 
  • #824
Funny how he wasn't so anxious when he attacked Colleen in the bathroom and then went to a movie after he killed her. And he was able to stalk and attack a staff at whatever facility he was at when that happened. Now that he's being confronted with his actions, he is too scared to face the music. He is so transparent!!!!!!!!

I'm just glad these games are being played now, rather than after the trial has already started.
 
  • #825
I agree, Steleheart. Imo, it is time to get this dog & pony sideshow on the road. PC is a sadistic psychopathic predator who is very calculating, deflective, manipulative, and creative, imo. He will do whatever it takes to escape justice and minimize his sentence, enabling him to prey on another unsuspecting innocent victim. Hopefully the judge will see through this ruse and make the proper rulings..
It sounds alot like the spider bite Michael Jackson pulled and the migraines Jodi Arias would pull to try to delay their criminal trials...They should drag him into court in chains, and shackles- even if they have to wheel him in like Elizabeth Smart's kidnapper.
 
  • #826
Unbelievable. This guy is unbelievable. Just reading about him scares me. Wow!
 
  • #827
Laurel J. Sweet ‏@Laurel_Sweet
Salem Superior Court Judge David Lowy expected to appoint two mental-health experts today to study #PhilipChism.

Laurel J. Sweet ‏@Laurel_Sweet
Their findings will help Lowy decide whether the accused teen teacher killer's trial will happen. #philipchism

Laurel J. Sweet ‏@Laurel_Sweet
It appears #PhilipChism will choose to stay behind the pulled shade in the arraignment dock again today with lawyer John Osler.

Julie Manganis‏@SNJulieManganis
All three of #PhilipChism attorneys are in courtroom. Defendant is in holding cell.

Julie Manganis‏@SNJulieManganis
Chism has just entered the courtroom. #PhilipChism

Victoria Warren ‏@vwarrenon7
#PhilipChism just entered courtroom, head down, sitting with attorney. No eye contact with mom. #7News

Julie Manganis‏@SNJulieManganis
Chism is wearing a sweater and shirt. He had been in a suit on prior days. #PhilipChism

Victoria Warren ‏@vwarrenon7
Judge getting right into competency issue. #PhilipChism#7News

Julie Manganis‏@SNJulieManganis
District attorney asks for video surveillance from cell. #PhilipChism
 
  • #828
Julie Manganis‏@SNJulieManganis
Judge: letting case go forward with questions of competency would result in a reversal on appeal. #PhilipChism

Victoria Warren ‏@vwarrenon7
Judge: constitutionally required to order 15B competency hearing, wants it comprehensive and expeditious. #PhilipChism#7News

Julie Manganis‏@SNJulieManganis
Lowy wants to do the follow up evaluation, called a 15b. #PhilipChism

Julie Manganis ‏@SNJulieManganis
Judge wants eval done as "expeditiously as possible." #PhilipChism

Laurel J. Sweet ‏@Laurel_Sweet
Lowy tells court he wants this issue settled ASAP. "There's a lot of people completely on hold right now." #PhilipChism

Julie Manganis‏@SNJulieManganis
Judge will have #DMH on speakerphone. #PhilipChism

Laurel J. Sweet ‏@Laurel_Sweet
There are six court officers waiting to move on #PhilipChism

Victoria Warren ‏@vwarrenon7
ADA: question of competency is moment specific.Once again raising question of manipulation. #PhilipChism#7News

Julie Manganis‏@SNJulieManganis
Prosecutor: #PhilipChism has history of "manipulation to get what he wants." She fears he will just do the same things after evaluation
 
  • #829
Julie Manganis‏@SNJulieManganis
Prosecutor: "the commonwealth's fears have come to fruition." She's referring to #PhilipChism trial delay.

Victoria Warren ‏@vwarrenon7
Def: agrees a question of competency. Says #PhilipChism in courtroom today so no evidence he is not cooperating. #7News

Julie Manganis‏@SNJulieManganis
Chism has his head down. Defense atty Regan: "I'm not quite sure what purpose the accusations of the commonwealth serve." #PhilipChism

Julie Manganis‏@SNJulieManganis
An attorney for #DMH is explaining the process of #PhilipChism eval and what type of facility available.

Victoria Warren ‏@vwarrenon7
Facility for #PhilipChism competency observation: in Worcester, locked hospital setting w/24 hour observation. #7News

Julie Manganis‏@SNJulieManganis
A #DYS atty says they don't have a facility like the one the judge wants. He's now on speakerphone with #DMH. #PhilipChism

Julie Manganis‏@SNJulieManganis
He needs to be in a locked facility. #PhilipChism

Laurel J. Sweet ‏@Laurel_Sweet
His question now: Where to safely place a juvenile facing murder and rape charges. #PhilipChism

Julie Manganis‏@SNJulieManganis
The issue is now where to put #PhilipChism for the eval. #DMH says bridgewater usually not available to juveniles. Worcester is not secure.
 
  • #830
Julie Manganis‏@SNJulieManganis
They would have to work something out with dept of corrections to send #PhilipChismto bridgewater. No doubt defense would object.

Laurel J. Sweet ‏@Laurel_Sweet
The law allows for #PhilipChism,16, to be hospitalized up to 20 days, but a 20-day extension is also possible, a DMH official tells Lowy.

Victoria Warren ‏@vwarrenon7
Court in recess, when we return anticipate judge ordering in hospital mental competency evaluation on #PhilipChism#7News
 
  • #831
Julie Manganis‏@SNJulieManganis
Lowy is ordering 15b evaluation. #PhilipChism

Laurel J. Sweet ‏@Laurel_Sweet
DMH tells Lowy Worcester State is willing to take #PhilipChism but security will need fortifying.

Victoria Warren ‏@vwarrenon7
No more in court proceedings expected in #PhilipChism. Judge will issue paper ruling detailing mental competency (15b) evaluation. #7News

Now we wait for at least 20 days for the eval to be complete. I still think it's good this is happening now instead of in the middle of the trial.
 
  • #832
'Thanks for keeping us updated, jacct'...
 
  • #833
'Thanks for keeping us updated, jacct'...
Indeed! My morning has been cray cray and I haven't been able to get on twitter. This is my first break, and my first stop was here! 😀

Sent from my LGMS345 using Tapatalk
 
  • #834
Julie Manganis‏@SNJulieManganis
Lowy is ordering 15b evaluation. #PhilipChism

Laurel J. Sweet ‏@Laurel_Sweet
DMH tells Lowy Worcester State is willing to take #PhilipChism but security will need fortifying.

Victoria Warren ‏@vwarrenon7
No more in court proceedings expected in #PhilipChism. Judge will issue paper ruling detailing mental competency (15b) evaluation. #7News

Now we wait for at least 20 days for the eval to be complete. I still think it's good this is happening now instead of in the middle of the trial.


I agree with your opinion. As maddening and frustrating this delay is, it's better than giving the defense grounds for appeal later on if the evaluation is not done now.

Nevertheless, who can guarantee that he won't pull a different stunt during trial even if evaluated now? He will never be cooperative and will likely find other ways to interrupt and delay proceedings. moo
 
  • #835
The image I have of PC is like when a small child is having a huge tantrum in a grocery store, and his two parents take his arms, and attempt to pull him up and make him walk. Then the kid makes his body go limp so they just have to drag the kid out the car, with his feet dragging on the ground as they go.

This kid is not going to be able to weasel his way out of this trial. He can have a little meltdown for an hour or two, but his fakery and resistance is no match to an extended hospitalization and 24 hour observation.
 
  • #836
The image I have of PC is like when a small child is having a huge tantrum in a grocery store, and his two parents take his arms, and attempt to pull him up and make him walk. Then the kid makes his body go limp so they just have to drag the kid out the car, with his feet dragging on the ground as they go.

This kid is not going to be able to weasel his way out of this trial. He can have a little meltdown for an hour or two, but his fakery and resistance is no match to an extended hospitalization and 24 hour observation.

Yeah, if he thinks court isn't fun, this won't be a picnic either... He doesn't want to be judged for what he has done. He is a sociopath, he has no conscience and wants no consequences for his actions. How dare he "school the teacher" because she inadvertently insulted him!!! :stormingmad::stormingmad::stormingmad:He was just looking for an excuse.
 
  • #837
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The image I have of PC is like when a small child is having a huge tantrum in a grocery store, and his two parents take his arms, and attempt to pull him up and make him walk. Then the kid makes his body go limp so they just have to drag the kid out the car, with his feet dragging on the ground as they go.

Except this kid might murder you when your back was turned.
 
  • #838
The image I have of PC is like when a small child is having a huge tantrum in a grocery store, and his two parents take his arms, and attempt to pull him up and make him walk. Then the kid makes his body go limp so they just have to drag the kid out the car, with his feet dragging on the ground as they go.

This kid is not going to be able to weasel his way out of this trial. He can have a little meltdown for an hour or two, but his fakery and resistance is no match to an extended hospitalization and 24 hour observation.

Dragging him by his arm causes dangerous injuries including dislocation. I and 3 other people called 911 on a woman who dragged her child through the mall and proceeded to toss him by the arm up into her truck in the parking lot and I will do it again. When my child had a tantrum inside a store and I could not quiet her I scooped her up into both my arms and carried her screaming out to the car, with my bad back and all, leaving the stroller behind.

But I understand that this seems like just a tantrum, however I, on the other hand, feel that it is a badly orchestrated performance by the defense since he had no melt down when he was confronted, arrested and then questioned about "the girl" when he proclaimed that he "became the teacher". His arrogance and self righteousness will be a key part of the prosecution's case, IMO.

http://www.wcvb.com/news/court-to-d...ead-on-floor-is-fit-for-murder-trial/35835770
Prosecutor Kate MacDougall said Chism was faking his symptoms, adding that Chism was holding the trial "hostage."
“The commonwealth believes everything that happened in last 24 hours is not real. It’s fake,” she said."


MOO
 
  • #839
Julie Manganis‏@SNJulieManganis
Lowy is ordering 15b evaluation. #PhilipChism

Laurel J. Sweet ‏@Laurel_Sweet
DMH tells Lowy Worcester State is willing to take #PhilipChism but security will need fortifying.

Victoria Warren ‏@vwarrenon7
No more in court proceedings expected in #PhilipChism. Judge will issue paper ruling detailing mental competency (15b) evaluation. #7News

Now we wait for at least 20 days for the eval to be complete. I still think it's good this is happening now instead of in the middle of the trial.

Personally I think the defense was slow on the draw. They should have thought of this charade long before he presented himself as highly competent with no melt downs or head banging. OH and so soon after they announced that they would use a mental health defense?

"We will use a mental health defense. On my count start acting mental."

SMH
 
  • #840
Trial in limbo as Chism is evaluated

After initially hoping to avoid it, a Salem Superior Court judge decided Thursday to send Philip Chism to a hospital for a competency evaluation that a Department of Mental Health doctor told him could take as long as 40 days.



Judge David Lowy acknowledged that proceeding with a trial while there are unanswered questions about the teenager’s mental competency would lead to a reversal of any conviction in the case “in about two sentences.”

“It would have been an error of the court of Constitutional dimensions,” said Lowy. “The integrity of the trial would have been in question.”

http://m.salemnews.com/news/local_n...5f0-7e4c-5216-9f61-0deea51b8da5.html?mode=jqm
 
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