Found Deceased MA - Jaimee Mendez, 25, Swampscott, 6 Nov 2014 - #1 *Arrest*

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  • #441
No. I do not believe that many women lie about rape/sexual abuse all of the time. I know that women are often accused of such in our misogynistic society, but that does not make it so.

I'm confused. Are you saying no one ever lies about being abused/raped?

Maybe I expressed my thoughts incorrectly...by no means do I suggest women are always lying about abuse/rape...what I am saying is that it does happen. Divorce cases, custody cases, college cases, highly publicized cases...
 
  • #442
Ugh. I just looked at JF's Face book page, trying to find information, and I came across his "favorite quote"... Betray Now, Revenge Later.
I saw that and instantly felt sick. I suppose a lot of people say things like that on their social media pages and don't really mean any thing by it, but... idk. I'm not sure what to think. Could this have been about revenge even if Jaimee had only known him a short time?
 
  • #443
I am sorry, I have no compassion for drug dealers. No excuse for actions that can ruin so many lives.

Really? Did my post seem like I support/have compassion for drug dealers and ruining people's lives?
 
  • #444
Yes, you did. At least, that is how I understood this quote:

She wouldn't be the first person who saw a way to make easy, fast, money and was lured into that lifestyle. I have compassion for people who get involved in drugs.

She wanted to make easy, fast money, and she ended up an addict, that is what you are saying, no? I call that poetic justice, personally.

Don't get me wrong, I hope she is found sound and safe. And promptly arrested and put in jail over her involvement with dealing drugs - if that is the case indeed.
 
  • #445
Friday, investigator's met in round table format to share information, and plan how to go forward.

No new media stories over the weekend, wondering if LE searched Sat or Sun, but kept it under the radar?
 
  • #446
Yes, you did. At least, that is how I understood this quote:

I don't know how I could be any more clear that what I originally stated. So let me say it plainly, I have compassion for people who are hooked on drugs. Please don't address my post on this subject again.
 
  • #447
Ugh. I just looked at JF's Face book page, trying to find information, and I came across his "favorite quote"... Betray Now, Revenge Later.
I saw that and instantly felt sick. I suppose a lot of people say things like that on their social media pages and don't really mean any thing by it, but... idk. I'm not sure what to think. Could this have been about revenge even if Jaimee had only known him a short time?

Thank you for that information. It may be a glimpse into what all those women who took out restraining orders may have had to deal with, as the charges were dismissed, what they may have had to face. Poor Jaimee Mendez had not known him long enough before that night to know she may have been in danger with him. With him starting to act intimidatingly enough for her to reach out to friends, over the hour she was last heard from, may have been her good instincts.

That also indicates her phone was powered over the hour before it stopped answering, contrary to what the RSO has put out there. So between the time she called the friend and the friend showed up, her phone stopped answering. How would that conversation go, her last one, with a friend who showed up for her? Jaimee Mendez would have every reason in the world to tell the friend the RSO's name and address to be rescued from him. The friend would have every reason in the world to inform her family that she was scared the last time he heard from her, who the RSO was and where he lived, expediently. If that friend had brought her to harm, than the last thing he would've done is alert the family right away, that he was involved. It would not have been in his interest. So it is implausible, to me, that the friend was involved. There's no indication LE is even considering that possibility, judging by the fact that they focused on searching for her as they did, judging by the vans that were towed, the garage that was searched, and judging by the fact that they found her phone so quickly.

Once the family heard from the friend, and the alarm was raised, they would have every reason in the world to go look for Jaimee at his house, to inform themselves of who he was, to watch him as he moved around, after they saw the scratches on him. This is where I'm so very impressed with the Mendez, they never had a moment of hesitation to doubt that Jaimie was in danger and got to it, that night. I think what the RSO was counting on was the record of calls would exonerate him, as it may have so far, but he wasn't expecting the courageous Mendez to fall into action as the friend informed them. I think, it may have been a complete surprise to him that she had called a friend at all. After all, if you're afraid of somebody, you don't then call a friend for help where they can hear you. The RSO also lied about how long he was with her in the oft mentioned "Items" interview, posted myriad times up thread, where he says "30 minutes tops." Her call history will show LE that she may have called those friends an hour apart and when Jaimee called her friend the last time, and from where exactly.

This RSO may think he has all his bases covered, but it seems to me, LE is letting him twist in the wind a bit, to see what gives. So far, it has worked out as that "Items" interview has been a goldmine of reference points, and a good read on how this brazen, arrogant, deceitful, violent, vindictive rapist goon's cagey mind works, it would seem to me.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news_op.../heartbroken_mom_fears_worst_for_her_daughter
http://www.bostonherald.com/news_op...orarily_suspend_search_for_missing_swampscott
http://www.bostonherald.com/news_op...st_seen_with_level_3_sex_offender_sister_says
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...scott-6-November-2014&p=11208374#post11208374
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...scott-6-November-2014&p=11207511#post11207511
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...scott-6-November-2014&p=11205628#post11205628

BTW, Tonight, I asked my friends in the sanitation business, who I went to high school with, if there is any chance that he could have gotten those scratches from garbage. They laughed and said that was garbage. They wear these huge gloves, lined to prevent injury from broken glass, and they don't get it in their face.
 
  • #448
Do we actually know from reliable sources that Jaimee is dealing heroine? If this information is only coming from JF, how can we trust this is even true?
 
  • #449
Do we actually know from reliable sources that Jaimee is dealing heroine? If this information is only coming from JF, how can we trust this is even true?

Nope, not one tini bit of credible information on that. Good to see you, btw.
 
  • #450
We cant trust ANY of the info here. It's 99.9% speculation. I dont care what anyone says NO ONE here knows EXACTLY who did what, yet.

Websleuths used to be great...a place to discuss ALL sides of a case. The good, the bad & the ugly..not automatically jump the gun with guesses & being called names if you don't agree with someone. Guess the old WS is gone. Sigh.
 
  • #451
[modsnip]

Poor Jaimee Mendez had not known him long enough before that night to know she may have been in danger with him. With him starting to act intimidatingly enough for her to reach out to friends, over the hour she was last heard from, may have been her good instincts.

No one here knows how long she actually knew him, or if she was with him when she placed those calls. [modsnip]

The only quote we have from the family says "this guy". The media outlets that report she said she was with JF could be speculating, just like you. Until we have a quote from the friend who received the call saying she gave them JF's name, this information is unknown.

That also indicates her phone was powered over the hour before it stopped answering, contrary to what the RSO has put out there.

No it doesn't. She had her charger with her. She could have charged it once she got to whoever's house she was with at that moment.

Jaimee Mendez would have every reason in the world to tell the friend the RSO's name and address to be rescued from him.

Sure, if she knew this information. For all we know, she may not have even known the name of the person who was making her feel uncomfortable.

The friend would have every reason in the world to inform her family that she was scared the last time he heard from her, who the RSO was and where he lived, expediently.

Sure, if he knew this information. Which, again, he may not have.


The RSO also lied about how long he was with her in the oft mentioned "Items" interview, posted myriad times up thread, where he says "30 minutes tops." Her call history will show LE that she may have called those friends an hour apart and when Jaimee called her friend the last time, and from where exactly.

He COULD be lying [modsnip].

Im sorry - I'm not trying to deliberately pick on you. But it's going to be hard for newcomers to sort through what is fact and what is assumed, when you state all of your speculations as fact.
 
  • #452
Thank you for that information. It may be a glimpse into what all those women who took out restraining orders may have had to deal with, as the charges were dismissed, what they may have had to face. Poor Jaimee Mendez had not known him long enough before that night to know she may have been in danger with him. With him starting to act intimidatingly enough for her to reach out to friends, over the hour she was last heard from, may have been her good instincts.

That also indicates her phone was powered over the hour before it stopped answering, contrary to what the RSO has put out there. So between the time she called the friend and the friend showed up, her phone stopped answering. How would that conversation go, her last one, with a friend who showed up for her? Jaimee Mendez would have every reason in the world to tell the friend the RSO's name and address to be rescued from him. The friend would have every reason in the world to inform her family that she was scared the last time he heard from her, who the RSO was and where he lived, expediently. If that friend had brought her to harm, than the last thing he would've done is alert the family right away, that he was involved. It would not have been in his interest. So it is implausible, to me, that the friend was involved. There's no indication LE is even considering that possibility, judging by the fact that they focused on searching for her as they did, judging by the vans that were towed, the garage that was searched, and judging by the fact that they found her phone so quickly.

Once the family heard from the friend, and the alarm was raised, they would have every reason in the world to go look for Jaimee at his house, to inform themselves of who he was, to watch him as he moved around, after they saw the scratches on him. This is where I'm so very impressed with the Mendez, they never had a moment of hesitation to doubt that Jaimie was in danger and got to it, that night. I think what the RSO was counting on was the record of calls would exonerate him, as it may have so far, but he wasn't expecting the courageous Mendez to fall into action as the friend informed them. I think, it may have been a complete surprise to him that she had called a friend at all. After all, if you're afraid of somebody, you don't then call a friend for help where they can hear you. The RSO also lied about how long he was with her in the oft mentioned "Items" interview, posted myriad times up thread, where he says "30 minutes tops." Her call history will show LE that she may have called those friends an hour apart and when Jaimee called her friend the last time, and from where exactly.

This RSO may think he has all his bases covered, but it seems to me, LE is letting him twist in the wind a bit, to see what gives. So far, it has worked out as that "Items" interview has been a goldmine of reference points, and a good read on how this brazen, arrogant, deceitful, violent, vindictive rapist goon's cagey mind works, it would seem to me.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news_op.../heartbroken_mom_fears_worst_for_her_daughter
http://www.bostonherald.com/news_op...orarily_suspend_search_for_missing_swampscott
http://www.bostonherald.com/news_op...st_seen_with_level_3_sex_offender_sister_says
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...scott-6-November-2014&p=11208374#post11208374
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...scott-6-November-2014&p=11207511#post11207511
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...scott-6-November-2014&p=11205628#post11205628

BTW, Tonight, I asked my friends in the sanitation business, who I went to high school with, if there is any chance that he could have gotten those scratches from garbage. They laughed and said that was garbage. They wear these huge gloves, lined to prevent injury from broken glass, and they don't get it in their face.

Yep. I'm going to stick with this which is of course only speculative thinking, based on the best most credible information out there to be found. I want Jaimee Mendez found.
 
  • #453
Do we actually know from reliable sources that Jaimee is dealing heroine? If this information is only coming from JF, how can we trust this is even true?

No, we sure don't. As far as I know, the only place that info came from was JF himself who claimed she is his go-between on the night in question and a couple of times before that. Technically not a dealer, but we don't even know if this is true, as LE hasn't confirmed it.
 
  • #454
No, we sure don't. As far as I know, the only place that info came from was JF himself who claimed she is his go-between on the night in question and a couple of times before that. Technically not a dealer, but we don't even know if this is true, as LE hasn't confirmed it.

It's strange...LE hasn't confirmed anything & it's almost like this dropped off the map. I'm local & NOTHING is on the news...that is VERY odd for a case around here.

The girl that self admitted to the hospital....such a strange unknown situation. I assume LE checked that JM didn't do the same...just random thoughts rolling thru my brain...
 
  • #455
We don't know but it could be possible... dangit I wish someone would just admit to knowing what happened!
 
  • #456
Nope, not one tini bit of credible information on that. Good to see you, btw.

Yes, you too! We seem to be on the same cases. This one is baffling with not too much info from LE, no POI yet, lots of info from Mendez family, even statements from RSO, who has yet to be arrested. Does anyone know if JF is still in town? The whole thing is weird.
 
  • #457
There is an announcement from the family on the Find Jaimee FB Page. Appears the family understands that they are in recovery mode of Jaimee and needed to clarify.

They are stating that she did not survive beyond the Thursday of her disappearance (paraphrasing IMO). I wonder if LE has told them something or if that's their belief only.

I pray they can bring her home soon :(

https://www.facebook.com/findjaimeemendez

MOO
 
  • #458
There is an announcement from the family on the Find Jaimee FB Page. Appears the family understands that they are in recovery mode of Jaimee and needed to clarify.

They are stating that she did not survive beyond the Thursday of her disappearance (paraphrasing IMO). I wonder if LE has told them something or if that's their belief only.

I pray they can bring her home soon :(

https://www.facebook.com/findjaimeemendez

MOO

That was heart wrenching to read :(.
 
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These are wild guesses on some spots he may have headed towards: Since I'm utterly ignorant of the area, sea fishing, what the possibilities are, it would take input from locals to give all this the once over to think through what would have been feasible for him, least noticed, near or far, weather, conditions, being seen, etc... Most places keep their security footage for a month, the sooner the public in Lynn and Salem and beyond know to check, the better.

Going on the idea that these types of people may be driven to comfort zones where they are active. This RSO worked in sanitation and commercial fishing, and judging by where Jaimee's phone and other items were found on Technology Way, a fairly industrial type area, then the last point just kind of looked like the background in his facebook page, on the beach. This is a bird's eye map from 2012 while the aerial maps are from 2014.

http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=r2jmw692r8cj&lvl=14&sty=b&rtp=🤬🤬🤬.42.484942_-70.932036_near%2020%20Spring%20Rd%2C%20Lynn%2C%20MA%2001902___a_~🤬🤬🤬.42.495089_-70.924489_near%2046%20Technology%20Way%2C%20Salem%2C%20MA%2001970___a_~🤬🤬🤬.42.522818_-70.882383_near%20Blaney%20St%2C%20Salem%2C%20MA%2001970___a_~🤬🤬🤬.42.533614_-70.873446_near%2010%20Restaurant%20Row%2C%20Salem%2C%20MA%2001970___a_&mode=D&rtop=0~0~0~&form=LMLTCC


Less industrial under an hours drive, may be more isolated, not sure if there would have been boats around, but interesting. This is an aerial map from 2014, both options are there for any map.

http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=42.494570~-70.878399&lvl=14&sty=h&rtp=🤬🤬🤬.42.484582_-70.932229_Spring%20Rd%2C%20Lynn%2C%20MA%2001902___e_~🤬🤬🤬.42.511779_-70.845477_near%2010%20Beacon%20St%2C%20Marblehead%2C%20MA%2001945___a_~🤬🤬🤬.42.495340_-70.924403_near%2036%20Technology%20Way%2C%20Salem%2C%20MA%2001970___a_~🤬🤬🤬.42.492064_-70.855368_near%20152%20Ocean%20Ave%2C%20Marblehead%2C%20MA%2001945___a_&mode=D&rtop=0~0~0~&form=LMLTCC

Aerial of pin D in above map, notice anything?
http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=42.492026~-70.855691&lvl=20&sty=h&rtp=🤬🤬🤬.42.484582_-70.932229_Spring%20Rd%2C%20Lynn%2C%20MA%2001902___e_~🤬🤬🤬.42.511779_-70.845477_near%2010%20Beacon%20St%2C%20Marblehead%2C%20MA%2001945___a_~🤬🤬🤬.42.495340_-70.924403_near%2036%20Technology%20Way%2C%20Salem%2C%20MA%2001970___a_&mode=D&rtop=0~0~0~&form=LMLTCC


http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=42.461282~-70.929466&lvl=13&sty=h&rtp=🤬🤬🤬.42.484582_-70.932229_Spring%20Rd%2C%20Lynn%2C%20MA%2001902___e_~🤬🤬🤬.42.421936_-70.917921_near%20Summer%20St%2C%20Nahant%2C%20MA%2001908___a_~🤬🤬🤬.42.495380_-70.923642_near%2028%20Technology%20Way%2C%20Salem%2C%20MA%2001970___a_&mode=D&rtop=0~0~0~&form=LMLTCC
 
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