SOLVED MA - Jane Britton, 22, Harvard student, Cambridge, 7 Jan 1969

  • #441
Hi Ausgirl! You've done a great job keeping the discussion going!

Cheers PP! Me and everyone else! :heart: Now.. where's Robin and MAcoldcase?? I'd love them to be here!

Just to add -- what do you make of these new details Don's brought us, which show just how terribly inaccurate the media was at the time? Couple of shockers, there, stuff we've been assuming was fact as reported. Especially the stuff that's depicted as quotes from LE!

Mind you, most of the terrible inaccuracies are attributed to one officer in particular..
 
  • #442
JH marrried in Toronto in May of 1972. (I'm not sure when he left Harvard - before or after?) He does not seem to have followed his studies any further; at least, I have found no evidence of such. (He's very difficult to find anywhere.) His wife has/had a landscaping company in Mississauga. (She was/is a London, England grad of Archaeology). Given what I've come to learn of Jane, they (James and Jane) really do seem to be quite the odd couple. This may not mean anything. It's just my observation.

moo
 
  • #443
What strikes me most about this case is that many people seem to have information that was important to it's resolution but this information was never brought to light. It does not surprise me in the least that the investigation was "botched" from the get-go…mired in politics and ineptitude….This has never struck me as an impossible case to be solved…Just one where no single jurisdiction involved carried out it's responsibility responsibly.

It's a shame but perhaps, not too late?

For Jane's sake?

moo
 
  • #444
What strikes me most about this case is that many people seem to have information that was important to it's resolution but this information was never brought to light. It does not surprise me in the least that the investigation was "botched" from the get-go…mired in politics and ineptitude….This has never struck me as an impossible case to be solved…Just one where no single jurisdiction involved carried out it's responsibility responsibly.

It's a shame but perhaps, not too late?

For Jane's sake?

moo
'Botched' case. Where have I heard that before? So where does this go then? If Professor Mitchell, & one hopes he gets verified soon, is able to release information pertaining to a 45 year old case, why can't Cambridge LE?

Its so awfully quiet here. There is a solution. Why is it hidden? In my humble opinion, people are killed for many reasons, but ultimately for power, what power would Ms Britton have had, or prevented someone from having?
 
  • #445
Has anyone researching here ever been able to track down Peter Dane? He is the only one that I have not been able to find anywhere. Did he graduate? Did he leave? Did he write any papers? Did he change his course of studies? Nothing. I've found nothing about him.
 
  • #446
Cheers PP! Me and everyone else! :heart: Now.. where's Robin and MAcoldcase?? I'd love them to be here!

Just to add -- what do you make of these new details Don's brought us, which show just how terribly inaccurate the media was at the time? Couple of shockers, there, stuff we've been assuming was fact as reported. Especially the stuff that's depicted as quotes from LE!

Mind you, most of the terrible inaccuracies are attributed to one officer in particular..

Aus- I'm excited by the new information and NOT AT ALL surprised by the inaccuracy of the media. (The media, in my experience, is more often inaccurate that accurate.) Being one that would really like to solve Jane's murder, I'm most grateful for Don's decision to share what he knows and remembers about the case and about Jane. He's under no obligation whatsoever to do so…

LE, on the other hand, after 40 years of NOTHING, should most definitely obliged to open up their files at this point.

Shame on them.

MOO
 
  • #447
Has anyone researching here ever been able to track down Peter Dane? He is the only one that I have not been able to find anywhere. Did he graduate? Did he leave? Did he write any papers? Did he change his course of studies? Nothing. I've found nothing about him.

I've managed to find a few things, based on info here:

http://newspaperarchive.com/us/mississippi/hattiesburg/hattiesburg-american/1969/01-14/page-14

That's *if* I have the right one..


Also possibly:


http://books.google.com.au/books/ab...D_II_III_Dat.html?id=S3RSHQAACAAJ&redir_esc=y
 
  • #448
Well, he and JH seem to be the only two that did not proceed with notable careers in their field of studies. For those of you who might be searching, I have found that Peter D's middle initial stands for "Donald". (I found him, and his full name, listed on a "Dorm History Search" for Harvard. From 1965-1969 he is shown as having dormed at "Straus D-12.)

See Straus Hall here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Harvard_College_freshman_dormitories#Straus_Hall
 
  • #449
In case anyone else besides me, forgot who PDD is...

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1968/11/12/archaeological-unit-from-harvard-unearths-lost/

"The team also unearthed agricultural tools amidst the Neolithic relics. This discovery is important, according to Lamberg-Karlovsky, "because until now it was believed that the expansion of the agricultural community, which marks the beginning of the so-called civilized man, was originally limited to Iraq."

Members of the team included grad students Richard Meadow (who found the statue), Jane Britton, James Humphrey, Arthur Bankoff, and Bankoff's bbm.wife, and senior Peter Dane"
 
  • #450
I'm back after several months away and excited to see Prof Mitchell contributing. Since we are now closer to someone who personally knows something about this case, I'd like to throw out a couple of rumors that were reported to me by the anthropology professor who first told me this story. Perhaps Don Mitchell can shed light on these or dismiss them as yet more inaccurate hype.

One of these was that an address book or diary found in Jane's apartment contained fantasies about one of her professors, and possible evidence of a tryst, which is what caused the police to suspect a faculty member. A news account does mention that a faculty member admitted to "dating" Jane once, and another account notes that a faculty member was a prime suspect at one point. Prof Mitchell also referred to something like a casual sexual relationship with a faculty member. Are these all referring to the same person? If so, who? Could he be the person who was polygraphed but never identified?
 
  • #451
I have also since heard from an independent source (an anthro/archaeology Harvard undergrad at the time) that one particular professor was widely suspected of being the killer by the anthro students.
 
  • #452
Hi J4J! Good to see you! Isn't it great to have some new/clearer info coming in?!

Good questions.

I've put a little $ aside for FOIA documents, by the way. I just don't think I can apply for them, from here?

WHY are the cops still so unwilling to release information/re-investigate? Are they holding out for an arrest forty years on? Are they really? Bleh, it's just so frustrating!
 
  • #453
I'm back after several months away and excited to see Prof Mitchell contributing. Since we are now closer to someone who personally knows something about this case, I'd like to throw out a couple of rumors that were reported to me by the anthropology professor who first told me this story. Perhaps Don Mitchell can shed light on these or dismiss them as yet more inaccurate hype.

One of these was that an address book or diary found in Jane's apartment contained fantasies about one of her professors, and possible evidence of a tryst, which is what caused the police to suspect a faculty member. A news account does mention that a faculty member admitted to "dating" Jane once, and another account notes that a faculty member was a prime suspect at one point. Prof Mitchell also referred to something like a casual sexual relationship with a faculty member. Are these all referring to the same person? If so, who? Could he be the person who was polygraphed but never identified?

I don't know anything about an address book or diary. Certainly it's possible.

As for any "date" or "tryst" all I can offer is this: one night, my wife, Jane, and I were drinking with a faculty member (not on a tenure-track line, but I'm pretty sure not a "visiting" professor, meaning that he was there for at least a few years). I can't say when, except that it definitely wasn't around the time of the murder.

I'm pretty sure we started at our place, but I can't say how the guy arrived. It might have been after a party at someone else's place. No matter how it started, it ended pretty late at the guy's place, with a lot of drinking having been done. No other substances. My wife and I went home. Jane stayed, and arrived home the next morning, very hungover. What happened? I don't know.

A week or maybe a couple of weeks later, Jane was over at our place and we were hanging out, and the guy came up the stairs (remember, the outside door was only sometimes locked). It's possible that he called first, but I seem to remember being surprised. Jane did not want to see him (she was explicit, to us) but I can't remember whether or not he stayed for a few uncomfortable minutes in the apartment, or not. We might have lied and said she wasn't there. I'm sorry, but I can't remember.

As to whether there was any contact after that, I can't say. I believe I said something about "casual" but by that I did not mean "casual sexual" relationship in the way that term's used now. I don't know what happened in the guy's apartment that night. I can imagine several scenarios but that means nothing.

I'm not prepared to name this person. I don't know whether he was polygraphed. What I do know for certain is that he was scheduled to leave for fieldwork very soon (a matter of a few days) after the murder and was not prevented from doing so and to the best of my knowledge, he left before his scheduled time. I was gone when he would have returned, and I can't say whether he was questioned then, or not. I'd be surprised if Lt. Joyce didn't have a talk with him.

Maybe a little aside about "faculty." Harvard, and probably other institutions like it, offer limited-term contract faculty positions as assistant professors but it's understood that there will be no opportunity to move towards tenure. A great many people want "professor at Harvard" on their resume, and this is a legitimate way to get that. Harvard chews up and spits out these people. They know they're not going to get tenure, are not ever going to be considered for it, and so on. They do it anyway, and it's not hard to understand why. To the best of my knowledge, the guy I'm talking about had that kind of position.

The other professors either had tenure or were on tenure-track lines. They had higher status and more power. What I'm saying is that "a professor at Harvard" can mean several things. No one's fibbing or shading the truth, because indeed they are all professors. Just not quite the same kind of professors.

As to whether that's still the practice, I can't say.
 
  • #454
. . . Arthur Bankoff, and Bankoff's bbm.wife, and senior Peter Dane"[/B]

What does ""bbm.wife" mean?

Arthur's wife was Andrea Bankoff. They are divorced. Arthur has probably retired from teaching at CUNY Brooklyn College. I haven't talked to either Arthur or Andrea since the early-mid nineties, although I ran into a letter from them this week. They were in Rome at the time of the murder.
 
  • #455
Hello Don!

A few quick questions…To your knowledge, did any faculty member or professor ever visit Jane's or your apartment? Was this something that happened in your reference to "casual" relationships (not referring to anything sexual)?

Also - Did you know James H well? Did you see him/speak to him after Jane's death? What impressions did he leave you with?

Did you meet Peter Dane? Any impressions?

Thanks for being here! It's wonderful to get your first-hand feedback on what did/didn't happen!

ETA - Regarding the individual you don't want to name…Did they go on to work at other Universities? If so, do you know where they went?
 
  • #456
Don, bbm is forum-talk for 'bolded by me'. I'm assuming its placement was a typo.
 
  • #457
Probably a bit redundant, but you regular WS'ers will know how it gets, when you have a case on your mind or a particular detail, and suddenly it seems there's a string of unrelated but similar cases and details, everywhere!

Anyway, lately I have been watching a ton of documentary style films and true crime TV, on various cases both old and recent.... some of them with famous profilers, others with super experienced homicide detectives. And what's been standing out to me is the sheer number of times a woman is bludgeoned repeatedly in the face or stabbed to death with either overkill or staging or both, and it's said by LE: "This looks personal". And in the majority of these cases that have been prosecuted, it WAS.

It's very tempting, when you watch six or seven docos in a row and hear that same line, to fall into magical thinking "Is someone up there trying to TELL me something?" LOL

In all seriousness, though, it's made me see Jane's attack as a good deal more probably from someone who knew her.
 
  • #458
Ausgirl - I have never doubted that Jane was murdered by someone she knew.
 
  • #459
Yeah, me neither really.

It's just my nature to look at things sideways and upside down, as it were, despite what I actually believe. I'm both prone to and firmly opposed to presumptions, if that makes sense?
 
  • #460
Yeah, me neither really.

It's just my nature to look at things sideways and upside down, as it were, despite what I actually believe. I'm both prone to and firmly opposed to presumptions, if that makes sense?

You presumed correctly that the bbm in my post referenced up thread, was a typo, thanks!
 

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