MA - Lindsay Clancy, Strangled 3 Children in Murder/Suicide Attempt, Duxbury, Jan 2023

  • #961
  • #962
If she's that fragile/intent, she's not fit for trial.

JMO
Then a ruling needs to be made after expert evidence is presented to the judge.

Justice can't be suspended or prevented for every person whose counsel says they might kill themselves. Otherwise, everyone will be saying it and nobody will ever face a jury.

MOO
 
  • #963
First of all, her lawyer's statement seems highly inappropriate. Is he trying to prevent a trial?
If she's judged fit for trial, bring her to court and set up her jail cell to remove all articles that could be used to commit suicide.
 
  • #964
Then a ruling needs to be made after expert evidence is presented to the judge.

Justice can't be suspended or prevented for every person whose counsel says they might kill themselves. Otherwise, everyone will be saying it and nobody will ever face a jury.

MOO

Agreed.
 
  • #965
The judge overseeing Lindsay Clancy’s criminal case said Wednesday he would move quickly to craft an order outlining a protocol for how the woman charged with the murders of her three young children should be brought to court for trial.

Kevin Reddington, Clancy’s defense lawyer, called the case a “logistical nightmare,” given his client’s physical limitations and emotional distress. Clancy is on 24/7 suicide watch at Tewksbury State Hospital, where she is committed. She is also being held without bail on the murder charges.

On Wednesday, a lawyer for the sheriff’s office told Judge William Sullivan that Clancy could be transported in her wheelchair in a van. Tewksbury is not able to bring Clancy to and from the courthouse, said the lawyer, Jessica Kenny.

“She has to have a nurse that’s not a veterinarian, that knows what the medical condition of the individual is and can provide help, not just some random person from the sheriff’s department that’s going to sit in a jump seat in the sheriff’s van,” Reddington said.

 
  • #966
Reddington has indicated that he will pursue a lack of criminal responsibility defense for Clancy — essentially arguing that she could not understand the consequences of her actions because of her mental state at the time. Since the beginning of the case, Reddington has claimed Clancy was suffering from postpartum depression and psychosis and was overmedicated at the time of her children’s deaths.

Any time a defendant pursues such a defense based on statements they have made, prosecutors have the right to conduct their own evaluation, Reddington explained, adding he always has such evaluations videotaped.

Still, he speculated that Plymouth County District Attorney Tim Cruz would push forward with the case regardless of the expert’s conclusion.

“If their doctors or doctor, against all odds, says ‘yeah, she’s lacking in criminal responsibility,’ I do not see Tim Cruz dropping the case,” Reddington said.

 
  • #967
Exercise bands are what she used to strangle the children.

Like you, I wonder at the fact that the first killing did not jar her loose from whatever reality she was occupying at that moment. IMO, she must have been caught in a terrible quicksand of destruction/self-harm/despair/depression/self-loathing - I can't guess - and unable escape from it. Perhaps that's what compelled her to jump from the second-storey window, looking to flee the last bit of self-awareness forever.

Jumping out of the window actually makes a lot of sense if she was psychotic. Individuals with psychosis often commit impulsive self-injury acts. They're scared and don't understand what's happening. In fact, in certain demographics (teens/adolescents/early-to-mid 20s, postpartum women, etc), when they come to the hospital from a self-inflicted gunshot or stab wound, a serious jump/fall, a serious intentional MVA, or running out into traffic, the first thing we screen for is not necessarily suicidality, but psychosis.
 
  • #968
First of all, her lawyer's statement seems highly inappropriate. Is he trying to prevent a trial?
If she's judged fit for trial, bring her to court and set up her jail cell to remove all articles that could be used to commit suicide.
The tweet from Daily Mail twisted his words. He did say she has remained suicidal, but was making the point that precautions need to be taken in all aspects of her transport due to her suicidal ideations. Not only does she need appropriate medical care, she needs appropriate mental health care as well.

Defense is overstating her limitations, prosecution is understating them. The judge should be able to determine the facts with the medical information provided to him from the doctors and psychiatrists.
 
  • #969
It also took time in between each little child and baby to strangle them with those 'forget what they were' called. Nothing snapped in?? There are also details that are not public in this. If the jury hears them and her own self medicating long before this, she may not be sent to a pysch. hospital for life. IMO
Would you be willing to expand on this information, especially the self-medicating?
 

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