MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #10

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@BienickWCVB

Whiffin says the item is deleted but he doesn't believe the user intentionally deleted it. Says one method of user deletion would have resulted in more widespread loss of data.


12:42 PM · Jun 17, 2024
 
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Why did they need to call this guy AND Hyde??

Especially since Hyde said nothing was deleted and he says unequivocally that it was?
 
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@SueNBCBoston

Jurors look a little bored. Almost lunch break.

Whiting confirms another document, Lally publishes it on screen.

Whiffin testifies these searches were not done in private mode.

5 jurors are resting their heads on their hands.
 
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@BienickWCVB

Here's Whiffin's table for three search terms done via Safari and the times they were done. Says if these searches had been done in private-browsing mode, these results would not be visible.

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So did he conclude that the searches were made later, and not 2am? Trying to keep up but my god it's painful.
 
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is there any data from JO’s phone that we’ll hear about, from the CW? I imagine we will from the defense since his phone showed movements at a certain time
 
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So did he conclude that the searches were made later, and not 2am? Trying to keep up but my god it's painful.
He’s saying they were made after 6am
 
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As a NGer, I will concede that after this testimony and the other woman's I do NOT believe that JMc made this search at 2 in the morning, but rather at 6 in the morning after JOK was found. She says KR told her to search it. Has KR said otherwise?

I really do not believe JMc knew what happened to JOK until the next morning, IMO. Doesn't mean she hasn't done everything else in her power to lead everyone involved to believe KR did it. (I'll even go out on a limb and say she may very well believe KR did it.)

Not sure where this leaves us, but my thoughts wander to what KR told her counsel. Did she say she never told JMc to search that? Or maybe she simply doesn't remember due to still being somewhat under the influence, the sleeping pill, lack of sleep and general anxiety of the entire situation?
 
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As a NGer, I will concede that after this testimony and the other woman's I do NOT believe that JMc made this search at 2 in the morning, but rather at 6 in the morning after JOK was found. She says KR told her to search it. Has KR said otherwise?

I really do not believe JMc knew what happened to JOK until the next morning, IMO. Doesn't mean she hasn't done everything else in her power to lead everyone involved to believe KR did it. (I'll even go out on a limb and say she may very well believe KR did it.)

Not sure where this leaves us, but my thoughts wander to what KR told her counsel. Did she say she never told JMc to search that? Or maybe she simply doesn't remember due to still being somewhat under the influence, the sleeping pill, lack of sleep and general anxiety of the entire situation?
I've wondered that, hopefully it does come out as it sounds senseless considering KR had already found and was tending to him at that time, but again..her mind might of been, he's covered in snow, is he still alive, she's said to be asking that , but hard to say. This is regarding asking JMc to google how long to die in the cold.
 
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I've wondered that, hopefully it does come out as it sounds senseless considering KR had already found and was tending to him at that time, but again..

I'm sure if that Google search was done on Karen's phone then those 2am times would suddenly be correct JMO
 
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@SueNBCBoston

There is a difference in how things are recorded when you type into the Google search bar directly. Something about how they load successfully


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Lally hands Whiffin another doc to approve, a comparison of the search terms, plist between the devices.


Whiffin now explains how the tabs work; and the history is created.Several jurors are taking notes.


Lally asking how the timestamp is creat end
Just as we enter the weeds,
judge says it a good time for lunch break.
There is a murmur from the court.
 
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Hmm I'm not fully satisfied with that. So if I wanted to avoid detection, atleast time-frame wise, I could just always leave a browser open/in the background, search for whatever I felt like, yet the timestamp would remain when it was first created? Seems wrong to me but ofcourse I am no expert at all in this field.
 
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@BienickWCVB

The record shows "hos long to di in cold" at 6:24:18am and "how long ti die in clkd" at 6:23:51am. Whiffin says he believes the results for each search never fully loaded on the phone.


Whiffin is describing this table:

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Whiffin says if a Safari tab is minimalized, the timestamp is not updated.
 
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@BienickWCVB

The record shows "hos long to di in cold" at 6:24:18am and "how long ti die in clkd" at 6:23:51am. Whiffin says he believes the results for each search never fully loaded on the phone.


Whiffin is describing this table:

View attachment 511018


Whiffin says if a Safari tab is minimalized, the timestamp is not updated.
did she GOOGLE HERSELF?
 
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did she GOOGLE HERSELF?
I caught that, too! She strikes me as having to be the most important person in the room at all times, so this isn't as surprising as it is hilarious.
It's Jen's world, and we're all just living in it.
IMO
 
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Slk
@BienickWCVB

The record shows "hos long to di in cold" at 6:24:18am and "how long ti die in clkd" at 6:23:51am. Whiffin says he believes the results for each search never fully loaded on the phone.


Whiffin is describing this table:

View attachment 511018


Whiffin says if a Safari tab is minimalized, the timestamp is not updated.
a tab was open at 2.27am and nothing shows o. It. JMc opened an empty tab. How convenient.
 
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I was never really sure about the 2:27am search because it was disputed by an ex-FBI agent on Vinnie Politan's show over and over. So this really does not bother me much and does not make or break the case for me.
 
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