MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #10

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Another ARCCA expert hired by the DOJ is now participating in this "voir dire." He is an accident reconstruction expert from Pittsburg, Andrew Renthschler. He is director of biomechanics, has a 2004 Phd from Univ of Pittsburgh.
 
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A reminder -- evidence of a DOJ/FBI investigation has not been permitted in this trial. So the jury will not know WHO the third party is who hired ARCCA for accident reconstruction, only that a third party did.

I reckon they could assume it was a civil lawsuit, although it doesn't make sense for a civil case to go first in a situation like this.

No, I think thanks to the recent history of misbehavior by the state police, they're going to know it was probably the FBI.
 
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These two witnesses hired by the fbi are insanely knowledgeable, after trooper Paul’s testimony this case is going to be NG, how could it not be
 
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I would say running over your domestic partner with your SUV, in a fit of rage, would be very reasonably considered DV... by everyone.

In fact, I think if the genders were reversed in this case, that... along with a lot of things, including opinions... would be considered by many, quite differently. <- I apologize if this is too edgy.

I wouldn't say that because I don't believe they have proved murder let alone some charge she wasn't charged with. JMO
 
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Wow, these ARCCA witnesses are true experts. Very impressive. Take note CW!
 
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A reminder -- evidence of a DOJ/FBI investigation has not been permitted in this trial. So the jury will not know WHO the third party is who hired ARCCA for accident reconstruction, only that a third party did.
I really wish they didn’t have to tiptoe around this - must be awfully confusing for the jury. I think we take it for granted a bit because we’ve sat with this knowledge for so long, but I don’t think most members of the jury would assume that the “third party” / “other proceeding” is the FBI. It’s a pretty unique situation. Would love to be a fly on the wall when the jurors find out that info at the end of the trial lol.
 
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Dr Daniel Wolfe, an accident reconstruction specialist, has all of the experience and qualifications that Trooper Paul was lacking.
I sincerely hope he is permitted to stand as a witness in front of the Jury.

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Rentschler says he was not hired by either prosecution nor defense, but by third agency. Says he came to conclusions with a reasonable degree of certainty. Wrote a report that was made available to prosecution and defense in this case.


11:30 AM · Jun 18, 2024
 
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I would say running over your domestic partner with your SUV, in a fit of rage, would be very reasonably considered DV... by everyone.

In fact, I think if the genders were reversed in this case, that... along with a lot of things, including opinions... would be considered by many, quite differently. <- I apologize if this is too edgy.
for a minute there I thought you were blaming her for the dog bites..
You are not, are you?
 
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DR Rentschler says he was able to come into a conclusion about how O'Keefe's injuries came to be - they're not going into them now. He says he has testified in about 150 cases.


11:30 AM · Jun 18, 2024
 
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I really wish they didn’t have to tiptoe around this - must be awfully confusing for the jury. I think we take it for granted a bit because we’ve sat with this knowledge for so long, but I don’t think most members of the jury would assume that the “third party” / “other proceeding” is the FBI. It’s a pretty unique situation. Would love to be a fly on the wall when the jurors find out that info at the end of the trial lol.

I suspect there are a number of smart, informed jurors on this case who may not have followed the KR case but are fully aware of the troubles with the state police and what the FBI has been doing with regard to exposing them. Even if it's only a few who have figured it out, I can't see it not coming up in deliberations. I'd put money on it being the first topic of discussion.
 
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Sometimes this witness testifies for the prosecution. In one recent case a defendant was charged with beating his GF to death, but he claimed the victim fell down the stairs. Rentschler gave his opinion on whether injuries caused by a fall or beating.


11:32 AM · Jun 18, 2024
 
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I suspect there are a number of smart, informed jurors on this case who may not have followed the KR case but are fully aware of the troubles with the state police and what the FBI has been doing with regard to exposing them. Even if it's only a few who have figured it out, I can't see it not coming up in deliberations. I'd put money on it being the first topic of discussion.
I’d take that bet ;)

I’m not suggesting the jurors aren’t smart or informed, just that I wouldn’t expect them to assume a parallel FBI investigation.
 
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