MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #12

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I was wondering if anyone might know why Lally keeps referring to JOK as "Mister O'Keefe" instead of "Officer O'Keefe?"
Because they don't want to emphasize the fact that OJO was a fellow officer.
 
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Could FBI be the "outside agency" that hired ARCA? Why is name of agency being kept a secret?
It is the FBI. It was ruled early on none of the witnesses or attorneys would be able to refer to the parallel investigation.
 
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It is the FBI. It was ruled early on none of the witnesses or attorneys would be able to refer to the parallel investigation.
Do you know what the reason was for that ruling? I must have missed that, I just knew it couldn't be said...
 
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@SueNBCBoston

Rentschler explaining how the shoulder works, how the center of mass works, etc
Jackson: if a body was projected, would you see injuries?
-yes contact injuries in right side of body, then injuries in the left side when you land, and road rash when the body slides.


12:44 PM · Jun 24, 2024
 
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"Your Honor, I object!"
"Why?"
"Because it's devastating to my case!"
"Overruled."
"Good call!
 
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This is what I want to know!
It is the agency that hired him. Judge isn't allowing them to be named. The CW doesn't want the jury to know that the FBI did their own investigation and found he wasn't hit by a car.
 
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"Your Honor, I object!"
"Why?"
"Because it's devastating to my case!"
"Overruled."
"Good call!
omg here it is, COMMENT OF THE DAY!
 
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Do you know what the reason was for that ruling? I must have missed that, I just knew it couldn't be said...
I’m not 100% positive. Because the FBI investigation is ongoing? Prejudicial to the jury maybe?
 
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@SueNBCBoston

Jackson is done.Lally up reading from their report dated 2/12/2024, reads the disclaimer, listing the materials & reports he & team received.


12:46 PM · Jun 24, 2024
 
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@BienickWCVB

Lally begins cross-examination with the same question as he started with for Wolfe, that their report findings could be altered if new info is learned.


12:45 PM · Jun 24, 2024
 
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Omg guys, we’re almost done with this trial. Anyone else a little sad? I’ve loved getting to spend the past few weeks chatting with y’all! Thanks to everyone who provided such stimulating convo and debate!
 
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@SueNBCBoston

Little asking about the impact of the head.
Sheridan explains that could have been the cause of death due to hemorrhaging and contusions.
Says OKeefe would have been unconscious.
Would not have been able to stand or walk.


9:53 AM · Jun 24, 2024
Absolutely he was unconscious from the immediate head bash.
 
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But folks, that what experts witness testimony does and why it is so useless. ...
The expert testimony is summarized as: "We can't figure out how this happened so it probably didn't". We know because me and my friends myth-bustered a car hitting him..."

Its was almost idiotic what they said on the stand.

Are we watching the same trial here?
Todays expert witness testimony proves these two points:
  • The injuries sustained by JOK are not consistent with being hit by a vehicle
  • The damage to the defendant's Lexus SUV is not consistent with impacting a person.

The ONLY way the tail light could have been broken by a person/arm/whiskey glass is if the glass was actually thrown at the SUV.
 
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This biomechanics expert is not screaming at the TV as she did while watching the CW's "Biomechanics" reconstruction expert. Solid scientific testimony here today.
 
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@SueNBCBoston

Lally asking about compression abrasions.
Rentschler confirms the definition.
Was not provided with forensic reports, or SP reconstruction reports, didn’t look at the car, or the taillight pieces.


12:53 PM · Jun 24, 2024
 
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@BienickWCVB

Lally begins cross-examination with the same question as he started with for Wolfe, that their report findings could be altered if new info is learned.


12:45 PM · Jun 24, 2024

Lally. : Dr Rentschler what if you were given new evidence - would that change your findings?
Rentschler: yes
Cue Lally running to the bat phone to call <modsnip - derogatory namechanges are not allowed> Procter
 
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