MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #21 Retrial

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Only time Wolfe ever used Signal to communicate, was with Allen - at his request.

Not a good look for the defense

IMO
 
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Someone has to explain to me who opened JOK's phone at 12:52 and locked it at 12:59????
 
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Did celebrite analyze JenMc, BA, and BH's phones??? And explain all those buttcalls??
 
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This attempt to trash ARCCA's reputation and credibility is way out of line, heck it is just astounding. They are here because Brennan speculated in a motion that was then granted by the court.

Cannone is allowing Brennan to examine them in this manner unchecked. I think the way Brennan is handling this is completely uncalled for. This hearing is public. What right and on what basis is the CW allowed to do this to a defendant's expert witnesses. Jmo
 
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Only time Wolfe ever used Signal to communicate, was with Allen - at his request.

Not a good look for the defense

IMO
Defense attorneys aren’t subject to public records laws. Using encrypted communication is common in high profile cases. And pre-empting the inevitable ‘but discovery!’ response - discovery doesn’t mean every private text gets handed over. Only relevant, material communications are discoverable if properly demanded.
 
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This attempt to trash ARCCA's reputation and credibility is way out of line, heck it is just astounding. They are here because Brennan speculated in a motion that was then granted by the court.

Cannone is allowing Brennan to examine them in this manner unchecked. I think the way Brennan is handling this is completely uncalled for. This hearing is public. What right and on what basis is the CW allowed to do this to a defendant's expert witnesses. Jmo
I don't get it. I mean ARCCA was originally hired by the DOJ so clearly credible.
 
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Someone has to explain to me who opened JOK's phone at 12:52 and locked it at 12:59????
No one, you musta misunderstood the testimony

IMO
 
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I don't get it. I mean ARCCA was originally hired by the DOJ so clearly credible.
ARCCA's credibility is important to the reasonable doubt that might exist about JO being hit by a car.

ARCCA answered in the first trial very definitively, in response to the defense counsels questions, that they were not being compensated and that they hadn't discussed or collaborated on the case previously. That turns out to have been a lie.

They were compensated, they did communicate, they did coordinate, and they used an app designed to make that communication untraceable.

When evaluating the reliability and bias of their testimony the jury should know this background.

Edited: If they cannot be trusted to either have understood what they were being asked in the first place, and the truthful answer to that, or they did understand and lied- why should anything else they testify to be trusted.
 
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Wolfe even lied about his resume - never notified the court.

IMO
 
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Only time Wolfe ever used Signal to communicate, was with Allen - at his request.

Not a good look for the defense

IMO

I knew they would have a signal backchannel.
 
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ARCCA's credibility is important to the reasonable doubt that might exist about JO being hit by a car.

ARCCA answered in the first trial very definitively, in response to the defense counsels questions, that they were not being compensated and that they hadn't discussed or collaborated on the case previously. That turns out to have been a lie.

The were compensated, they did communicate, they did coordinate, and they used an app designed to make that communication untraceable.

When evaluating the reliability and bias of their testimony the jury should know this background.

BIB
In some respects all of this is a bigger issue for trial 1 - I wonder if the Judge sanctions AJ. He already got off lightly once.
 
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I’m shocked Wolfe offered it up!

He has to be careful not to perjure himself over this case which is after all just once case.

Somehow Brennan knew this was all out there and Wolfe does not know exactly what Brennan knows.
 
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ARCCA's credibility is important to the reasonable doubt that might exist about JO being hit by a car.

ARCCA answered in the first trial very definitively, in response to the defense counsels questions, that they were not being compensated and that they hadn't discussed or collaborated on the case previously. That turns out to have been a lie.

The were compensated, they did communicate, they did coordinate, and they used an app designed to make that communication untraceable.

When evaluating the reliability and bias of their testimony the jury should know this background.

Edited: If they cannot be trusted to either have understood what they were being asked in the first place, and the truthful answer to that, or they did understand and lied- why should anything else they testify to be trusted.
The defense didn’t hire ARCCA. ARCCA was hired by the FBI. The defense paid the invoice after the fact. That’s a major distinction to try to obfuscate.

ARCCA was not paid by the defense until AFTER the mistrial - another major distinction.

Using signal or similar apps is standard for professional confidentiality. Using signal is not evidence of collusion or misconduct.

If ARCCA were truly trying to hide something or engage in improper conduct, why would a reputable private company like them risk their entire reputation and credibility by making such questionable decisions? A company with a reputation to maintain wouldn’t jeopardize it over one case, especially when their analysis is under the scrutiny of the court. MOO.
 
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I REALLY don't like this slimmy badgering of this witness by brennan. He's the definition of a slimbag lawyer in my opinion. He's sounds like a little spoiled brat that didn't get his binky. This judge is letting this happen which makes my believe 1000% that she has no desire what-so-ever in giving Karen Read a fair trial. She is just as horrible as he is. I really wish the jury was there to see it.

And of course the anti-Read crowd pitched a holy fit when Jackson was going after witnesses that lied but they are perfectly fine with the way brennan acted with this witness and he hasn't lied.

Guess they don't know the definition of hypocrisy.
 
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I REALLY don't like this slimmy badgering of this witness by brennan. He's the definition of a slimbag lawyer in my opinion. He's sounds like a little spoiled brat that didn't get his binky. This judge is letting this happen which makes my believe 1000% that she has no desire what-so-ever in giving Karen Read a fair trial. She is just as horrible as he is. I really wish the jury was there to see it.

And of course the anti-Read crowd pitched a holy fit when Jackson was going after witnesses that lied but they are perfectly fine with the way brennan acted with this witness and he hasn't lied.

Guess they don't know the definition of hypocrisy.
Exactly. Brennan’s whole strategy is humiliation and intimidation because he can’t attack Wolfe’s technical findings directly. They’re too strong. And you’re right, the double standard is disgusting. When Jackson exposed actual lies, they clutched their pearls. Now Brennan badgers a witness who hasn’t lied, and they call it justice. MOO.
 
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