MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #22 Retrial

[kuromiiiilove]

I feel the case will now come down to how tightly the CW can tie the Lexus data to the cell data.

IMO it's rock solid JOKs phone never moved after 12.32. If the Lexus high speed reversing event is also at 12.32 that is a hell of a powerful coincidence.

That’s assuming way too much precision from data that’s already shown to be questionable. JOK’s phone stopping movement at 12:32 isn’t “rock solid” , considering there are admitted gaps, missing records, and issues with preservation. The defense already raised serious concerns about how and when that phone was handled.

And the Lexus data, IMO, is vague telematics and timestamps without GPS, interpreted by someone who never even verified the clock on the vehicle. That’s circumstantial on top of circumstantial. If the CW wants to lean on digital forensics, they need to be ready to explain all the holes, inconsistencies, and bias in how it was collected and interpreted. Because right now, it looks like they’re stacking shaky data to try and retrofit a timeline.

MOO.

 

[nodamselindistress]

I feel the case will now come down to how tightly the CW can tie the Lexus data to the cell data.

IMO it's rock solid JOKs phone never moved after 12.32. If the Lexus high speed reversing event is also at 12.32 that is a hell of a powerful coincidence.

My recollection is that the Lexus events were not identified by time and had no time and date data associated with them.

 

[Spectrix]

My recollection is that the Lexus events were not identified by time and had no time and date data associated with them.

That is my recollection as well, in fact the only observation that I recall about the possible timeline was counting back from the number of keystrokes, which was when Alan Jackson completely demolished poor Trooper Paul on cross examination.

[Edit - this video cued at 1:05:15 has the key cycle discussion.]

It was established that the 24MPH reversing manoeuvre had occurred AFTER the vehicle was seized, and probably in the possession of Proctor.
I distinctly remember thinking "Why is revelation this not surprising?!"

My other observation at the time was that Alan Jackson was both terrifying and brilliant,
I recall likening the interaction between him and Trooper Paul to a dog who's gotten hold of a fluffy toy. The toy is completely destroyed in the first five minutes, but somehow the dog manages to just keep on tearing strips off of it for hours to come.

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[mrjitty]

My recollection is that the Lexus events were not identified by time and had no time and date data associated with them.

they work on elapsed time. But we have way points. eg departure from the bar and the 3 point turn. So it will be possible to align.

The CW did a poor job of this in T1.

I expect Brennan's digital evidence to be more thorough.

 

[waldojabba]

This might be nitpicky, but I’m surprised Ian Whiffin didn’t think to check for a secondary user on John’s phone, especially since it was unlocked using facial recognition. Given how thoroughly the phone’s usage was reportedly examined, I would have expected that to be considered. This isn’t to suggest Karen was involved, it makes me question the extent and depth of his investigation. Jmo.

I did not get a chance to listen to Mr Wiffens testimony in full yesterday. I did hear a bit about the part that apple data showing him climbing steps was just due to hilly terrain the car was traveling over -Did Mr Whiffen also check Karen's cell phone, who was sitting next to John in the car and notice that her apple data also had her climbing three flites of stairs?

 

[Linda7NJ]

I notice some people are afraid of ARCCA telling the truth about the physics of the case. I am certain the defense would be in favor of having the FULL story told about ARCCA, why they were hired by the FBI and how they offered their info to both the defense and the CW and, yes, the details of payments and messages. There is this odd impulse by some to narrow the discussion by ARCCA but these same people would gladly dance in the glow of the despicable Michael Proctor. As an American interested in justice, I want truthful information to be provided to the jury, it’s as simple as that.

I’m not fearful. I believe their investigation was severely lacking. IMO

 

[nodamselindistress]

Looking forward to Alessi's cross of Wiffen. As mentioned in prior posts, Alessi already managed to show Wiffen's investigation was incomplete in just the few minutes allowed on cross by the judge yesterday. Today should be interesting!

 

[kuromiiiilove]

I did not get a chance to listen to Mr Wiffens testimony in full yesterday. I did hear a bit about the part that apple data showing him climbing steps was just due to hilly terrain the car was traveling over -Did Mr Whiffen also check Karen's cell phone, who was sitting next to John in the car and notice that her apple data also had her climbing three flites of stairs?

If that was mentioned, I missed it. I don’t believe he did.

 

[mrjitty]

If this is true, then KR's phone could not have connected with JO's house wifi at 1236.

it gives her around 4 mins to make the drive - completely possible on empty roads IMO

 

[Derph]

So the rock has entered the case. What needs to be addressed is who put the rock at 34 Fairview??? Someone tainted and manipulated the lawn! How did that happen? With all the police presence that was at the house on Friday to keep the press and public away from jury I want to know who put it there! Just another coincidence I guess? I do give the judge credit for at least mentioning it.

 

[Forest_Wood]

I did not get a chance to listen to Mr Wiffens testimony in full yesterday. I did hear a bit about the part that apple data showing him climbing steps was just due to hilly terrain the car was traveling over -Did Mr Whiffen also check Karen's cell phone, who was sitting next to John in the car and notice that her apple data also had her climbing three flites of stairs?

KR's cellphone would need to be analyzed also to see if it matches up with John's. Exactly!

 

[arielilane]

@Angenette5


Good morning and Happy Tuesday!

Some thoughts on #KarenRead: the U.S. Supreme Court decision to not review the case should not be a surprise to anyone. That was a long shot at best.

2nd, I rewatched the ARCCA hearing last night. Judge Cannone was obviously not pleased with what she called a deliberate discovery violation.

Dr. Wolfe seemed more friendly with the defense "Alan" than Dr. Rentschler.

Could the judge allow Rentschler to testify but not Wolfe? This was a thought after watching the hearing.


7:31 AM · Apr 29, 2025

https://twitter.com/x/status/1917179818044481738

 

[Soulmagent]

I did not get a chance to listen to Mr Wiffens testimony in full yesterday. I did hear a bit about the part that apple data showing him climbing steps was just due to hilly terrain the car was traveling over -Did Mr Whiffen also check Karen's cell phone, who was sitting next to John in the car and notice that her apple data also had her climbing three flites of stairs?

should KR'S phone show the same stair climb? If it was a hilly road that glitch can be recreated .

 

[ShadyLady]

KR's cellphone would need to be analyzed also to see if it matches up with John's. Exactly!

I am sure that by now someone has tested that theory. Hills equal steps? Just dont think so.

 

[Forest_Wood]

So the rock has entered the case. What needs to be addressed is who put the rock at 34 Fairview??? Someone tainted and manipulated the lawn! How did that happen? With all the police presence that was at the house on Friday to keep the press and public away from jury I want to know who put it there! Just another coincidence I guess? I do give the judge credit for at least mentioning it.

I don't believe the new homeowners would have permitted that rock to be there unless they sold that house to a different Albert! Some families love to keep the family home in the family. I wonder if another Albert bought it. One of his sons, or whomever. Speculation only.
MOO

 

[arielilane]

Interesting body language of Jackson and Yannetti during Ian Whiffin (Cellebrite expert) testimony.

IW an outstanding reputation w/Cellebrite.


IW destroyed the flights of stairs, he didnt climb any stairs and ridiculous 2:27 am search hos long to die in cold. Its been the livelihood of FKR. Destroyed. Yet. Again.

2:27 am timestamp was last tab open timestamp, not the Google search time.

In addition, John’s phone didn’t move after 12:32:16 am until after 6:06 am when he was found. John’s cellphone never went beyond the area of the flagpole. John didnt enter 34F. John’s phone temperature stayed consistent - cold... No indication of it being moved to warmer environment.

John and defendant arrived to Fairview at 12:24 am.


Over 100 texts deleted. Text between KR defense and Wolfe.
Trial One ends in a hung jury.
Trial Two, Wolfe deletes all texts…

Defense team… Jackson and Wolfe utilize Signal (encryption and disappearing messages) app.
Wolfe comes across as deceptive... An insult to people's intelligence.
Wolfe’s integrity shredded to pieces. Hes an embarrassment to ARCCA. Matter of opinion.

 

[ShadyLady]

@Angenette5


Good morning and Happy Tuesday!

Some thoughts on #KarenRead: the U.S. Supreme Court decision to not review the case should not be a surprise to anyone. That was a long shot at best.

2nd, I rewatched the ARCCA hearing last night. Judge Cannone was obviously not pleased with what she called a deliberate discovery violation.

Dr. Wolfe seemed more friendly with the defense "Alan" than Dr. Rentschler.

Could the judge allow Rentschler to testify but not Wolfe? This was a thought after watching the hearing.


7:31 AM · Apr 29, 2025

https://twitter.com/x/status/1917179818044481738

Could it be that Dr Wolfe just does not think a SUV hit John? And maybe prosecution knew the results from FBI, so they did not want to speak with anyone from ARCCA as it would hurt their case.

 

[Amber29]

I feel the case will now come down to how tightly the CW can tie the Lexus data to the cell data.

IMO it's rock solid JOKs phone never moved after 12.32. If the Lexus high speed reversing event is also at 12.32 that is a hell of a powerful coincidence.

I’m probably most interested at this point in the testimony about the Lexus. The high speed reversing is very curious to me since the road is only about 32ft wide. “If” she did travel that long distance at that high reverse speed, that would seem intentional to me. Pretty unnecessary to make a simple 3 pt turn and extremely high speed to reverse. I’ve now tried to hit that speed reversing from my own house, no way. I’ve never felt that if she hit him, that it was intentional.

 

[Wishbone]

it gives her around 4 mins to make the drive - completely possible on empty roads IMO

IIUC it takes 5 min to drive 2.5 miles at 30 mph. The distance between 34 fairview and 1 meadows. So is it your assumption KR was driving faster than that? Kindly correct me if necessary.

 

[arielilane]

WATCH: #KarenRead reacts to video played in court showing her mocking her boyfriend's mother, Peggy O'Keefe.Karen is accused of killing Peggy's son, #JohnOkeefe, by running him over with her Lexus.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1916862719308763590

@CourtTV


“Did you delete texts?” Commonwealth prosecutor Hank Brennan pressured Voir Dire witness Dr. Daniel Wolfe about communications with #KarenRead’s defense.The Commonwealth suspects that Dr. Wolfe may have been biased towards the defense.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1916969131099775156