MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #25 Retrial

[SteveS]

I don't see where there is any lie in my post.

The defence requires staging, so I think AJ will have to show some kind of workable timeline to create the opportunity for it. According to AJ himself, the Lexus does not arrive at the Sallyport until less than 10 mins before the pieces are found at 34F ...

You want PROOF of such things? And it has to fit a specific scenario to the exclusion of all others? Unrealistic (and not really needed legally). And let's notice the defense has NOT committed to any specific scenario that happened (that's not their job).

But if you SINCERELY want answers on how it was possible, you can see them yourself if you give it a little effort. Just try a tiny bit. Consider:

1 You are only talking about a very few specific pieces of tail light.
2 It doesn't have to be Proctor who was the sole culprit.
3 All the pieces found don't necessarily have to originate from sallyport.
4 The small window you describe only needs a few pieces (6-7 iirc) taken from JOK drive and put on the lawn, to start the ball rolling.
5 Proctor did have a window of time he lied about, that day.
6 The evidence collection, record keeping, and management were really bad, so it's far from certain that what was later said to be found that day was indeed what was found.
7 With all the lying by police and those around them, UNDER OATH, about events and their own behavior in this time, there is every reason to believe that something jinky was happening (which they are desperately trying to keep hidden).

But if we open our mind just a tiny bit, the truth starts to show. We know that JOK was NOT hit by a vehicle, based on testing by experts without any bias who are the gold standard in accident reconstruction. From that, it's obvious those tail light pieces MUST have been planted.

What really happened to JOK? That's still unknown because the investigation was so abysmal. I hope we find out one day, and that the murderers are brought to justice.

 

[lohrtabitha]

I have a feeling the jury noticed the judge's attitude towards defense. Thankfully they were sharp enough and needed and wanted to hear the witness testimony from the defense atty., as of course they are supposed to and need to for a transparent and fair trial. Using their own minds this was. Good to see. What's the pushing and sighing? IMO

She really needs to retire. Like before this second trial started. I have no respect for her at all. Mo

 

[Derph]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1922092926684782887

 

[Angelwatch]

You want PROOF of such things? And it has to fit a specific scenario to the exclusion of all others? Unrealistic (and not really needed legally). And let's notice the defense has NOT committed to any specific scenario that happened (that's not their job).

But if you SINCERELY want answers on how it was possible, you can see them yourself if you give it a little effort. Just try a tiny bit. Consider:

1 You are only talking about a very few specific pieces of tail light.
2 It doesn't have to be Proctor who was the sole culprit.
3 All the pieces found don't necessarily have to originate from sallyport.
4 The small window you describe only needs a few pieces (6-7 iirc) taken from JOK drive and put on the lawn, to start the ball rolling.
5 Proctor did have a window of time he lied about, that day.
6 The evidence collection, record keeping, and management were really bad, so it's far from certain that what was later said to be found that day was indeed what was found.
7 With all the lying by police and those around them, UNDER OATH, about events and their own behavior in this time, there is every reason to believe that something jinky was happening (which they are desperately trying to keep hidden).

But if we open our mind just a tiny bit, the truth starts to show. We know that JOK was NOT hit by a vehicle, based on testing by experts without any bias who are the gold standard in accident reconstruction. From that, it's obvious those tail light pieces MUST have been planted.

What really happened to JOK? That's still unknown because the investigation was so abysmal. I hope we find out one day, and that the murderers are brought to justice.

And don’t forget, the crime scene was unsecured without any cameras on or near the property.

 

[PamCake]

O'Hara and other SERT team begin arriving on site
16:54

SERT Commence Search
17:20

Tow Truck arrives at Sallyport with Lexus
17.35pm approx. (I think the on X, AJs exhibit said 17.37.18)

First Pieces found
17:45

So the D Sallyport theory requires YB to now be involved, and Proctor would have less than 10 mins to break out the pieces in front of Yurij and others, then quickly drive to 34F, and then plant the pieces in front of all 7 SERT team members, and half a dozen other officers on site, mere seconds before they find them.

I don't think this is credible - so I wonder if AJ will go with someone else doing it earlier in the day. How else can it work now?

My opinion based on trial testimony and exhibits.

Maybe the extra hour plus that they got from misrepresenting the time they left Dighton could be taken into account.

 

[Warwick7]

Let's get back to basics. Again, it's not rocket science. How can YB definitely say there was no evidence that JO went into 34 Fairview if they never searched the house for evidence of that?! Come on!!

 

[JasmineD]

Thankfully, You’re in the minority.
I would never call Brennan brilliant.

Not at all. He's an embarrassment.

A huge part of being a good litigator is witness preparation. His prep of his witnesses has been awful. I think he knows he has no shot of conviction and is just punching the clock for his taxpayer funded payday.

 

[tara83]

Let's get back to basics. Again, it's not rocket science. How can YB definitely say there was no evidence that JO went into 34 Fairview if they never searched the house for evidence of that?! Come on!!

This is what drives me the most crazy. If a body was found on my front lawn you can bet the police are coming inside my house to see what is going on. But with it being a cop special treatment was given and we will never know what could have been found in that house.

 

[jepop]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1922092926684782887

Peter, the LYK, imo hasn't yet realised the level of bias this judge is capable of. You can see he's almost speechless as to why cannone allowed Brennan to ask that question (Q; what was your impression after studying his body? A: he was hit by a vehicle.). This absurdity from a scientifically unqualified cop who didn't have to be voir dired multiple times like the properly qualified ARCCA witnesses. Moo

At the end of the clip Peter suggests one way cannone could fix her 'mistake' would be to allow the defense to ask the same question of their experts down the track. You can then see that Peter's cognitive dissonance is overcome by the thought that cannone will want to and therefore will, fix her 'mistake'. Yet cannone could have fixed this 'mistake' by scrapping the Q and A right there from the record and telling the jury to disregard it. Which ofcourse, she did not. Moo

I speculate the LYK is going to be back shaking his head with incomprehension once again when cannone does nothing to fix her 'mistake' at all, ever Jmo

 

[themonk]

She was also advised to recuse herself from the trial from the beginning due to the connections and she refused. ODD. IMO

When Judge Beverly Cannone decided not to recuse herself she should have been required to divulge to the jurors any personal connections to the case participants.

Sound reasonable?

 

[LittleSeaTree]

Let's get back to basics. Again, it's not rocket science. How can YB definitely say there was no evidence that JO went into 34 Fairview if they never searched the house for evidence of that?! Come on!!

I can’t stop thinking about how they want people to believe that the Alberts slept through that scene, too. Give us a break.

 

[Angelwatch]

Let's get back to basics. Again, it's not rocket science. How can YB definitely say there was no evidence that JO went into 34 Fairview if they never searched the house for evidence of that?! Come on!!

The 3 flights of stairs are the evidence he was in the house. Not rocket science.

 

[HarmonyE.]

No, the defense did not withhold this evidence. It was discovered by the defense sometime in December 2024. They had sent a forensic expert to look at camera footage at Canton PD, only to find out it had been overwritten. He did, however, find the footage of Higgins in the parking lot of the CPD on his phone at around 1:30am (this is what we saw today in court). Don't know the details of how this was found.

It was discovered by someone in either LE or the prosecution. Or maybe the state police investigating Proctor as it was found buried in his investigative material. Brennan disclosed it a few months ago.

 

[HarmonyE.]

Karen Read’s father has stated that Karen told him she thought she struck something. I don’t think he was called for the first trial by either side. Anybody know why?

Parents of Karen Read, woman charged in Boston officer’s death: ‘My daughter will be free’

The parents of a woman charged in a Boston Police officer’s death say they’re confident in their daughter’s innocence as her legal fight continues.

www.boston25news.com

She did strike something. John's car in his driveway. It's on video.

 

[barfy]

ADA Brennan’s redirect was brilliant. He’s a master at his craft. Love watching him! Hope in his future he will be teaching law. Ive never seen such masterful work in my life!

Jackson talks about integrity and honor… yet, they are the ones who lied to the court, lied about paying witnesses, utilize Signal app, and deleted 100 text messages. Yep.

I cant imagine that the jury gave much attention to Jackson’s cross examination. Most likely they’re thankful he’s done with his cross of Sgt YB. Jackson’s mention of “beer muscles” [never heard that one] and liquid courage, a joke, and he’s doing exactly what defense's do - throwing everything against a wall and see what sticks. Nothing relevant to the case, they got nothing. Keep reaching…

Im sure the jury notices that Jackson persistently interrupts ADA Brennan and ADA Brennan rarely objects while Jackson is doing his long winded cross. ADA Brennan is fair, confident, and patient and Jackson constantly panics resulting in interruptions.


Re: Microscopic pieces

Will be great once the microscopic pieces of tail light found in John O’Keefe’s clothes come in.
You cant plant microscopic pieces of tail light in someone’s clothing.
You cant see these pieces w/o a microscope. It’s impossible to plant something you cant see.

In addition, the sharp edges of tail light pieces found explain cuts on arm of John O’Keefe.

My very own opinion for now.

Calling Brennan’s redirect ‘brilliant’ distracts from the reality that a polished delivery cannot compensate for missing evidence, police errors, or a federal expert who contradicts their position. The prosecution’s central witnesses are tainted, given that their lead detective was terminated, others "were" investigated by the FBI, and evidence has been severely mishandled. No amount of dramatic courtroom performance can change this reality. The defense's job is to expose reasonable doubt. If the prosecution’s case relies on biased officers, missing evidence, and dismissed scientific facts, it’s only appropriate for the defense to spotlight every inconsistency.

The idea that the jury ‘didn’t pay attention’ to the defense is rife with bias. Jurors are acutely aware when critical evidence lacks proper photographs or sufficient documentation, and when police witnesses have been fired or are under scrutiny. If the state’s argument had any merit, they wouldn’t need to lean on taillights fragments or a detective who was let go.

The crux of the prosecution’s case hinges on officers who was terminated, and once faced FBI inquiry, alongside a taillight with no proof of its condition or origin. At the same time, they’re criticizing the defense for deleted texts (which were not required to be kept) while their own team mishandled everything. Poorly managed evidence and interviews do not alter the fact that the burden of proof rests with the state, a burden they have failed to meet. IMOO

 

[K9T2L]

Oxford Dictionary: THE;ory definition;
“an idea used to account for a situation or justify a course of action”

Explanation that “doesn’t involve dog” would be found on most all trial transcripts /live televised hearings of Read case or numerous other media provided updates …hence the “Possible Theory” title and last paragraph/sentence in original post that starts with “ Either way, that’s ONE MORE THEORY” suggesting more than my one provided opinion ref possible theory

“Did he startle the dog? “ - Possibly, maybe, maybe not, it’s just another reasonable theory given the evidence /testimony that’s been shared to this point ..there a MANY “possibilities and theory’s floating around out there re this trial …likely due to the lack of actual investigative work , poor evidence management and processing as well as not documenting, writing reports or memorializing statements, specific instances, interviews, dates/times etc etc more importantly, the States clear and obvious lack of absolute, without a reasonable doubt facts that can prove or point to anyone or any incident that caused Johns unfortunate passing , let alone KAREN READ! Their own witnesses have disproven the states theory/claims ..NOT ONE witness has testified to seeing John in yard, laying injured or anything like that.

“Was the dog protecting someone”? Dogs be their very nature survive on “prey drive, defense drive” and have very protective instincts, especially cleo, the german shepherd mix apparently…that’s got a factually based and testified in open court “aggression towards strangers and other dogs” and recently sent “two women w/dogs walking by to the hospital “….so I would say she was not only protecting her “turf” or what we call in the field , being “territorial” to her home also providing “pack protection “ to the owners/residents

@KristinaRex


New -- Commonwealth wants evidence of Aruba "incident" now part of trial, by questioning new witnesses not previously planned. Prosecutors say defense opened the door to this when they had Bukhenik read Higgins-Read texts about JOK's alleged cheating.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1921930956006363620

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These late filings are a good sign for KR and the defense team…:.Prosecutors are grasping at straws tossing hail marries at the buzzer…::years ago had chance to shadow some federal agents and US attorneys and had lunch with a fed judge ( lord rest his soul) Never forget the many lessons and tactics used by both sides in trials and hearings etc…

1. When an attorney from either team, suddenly stops or suddenly starts “objecting “ to irrelevant statements or testimony that has no bearing on case, could be a sign that they know it’s over and are about to lose case

2. Very rare to have new filings submitted this far into a trial, even more so when it’s a 2nd retrial ,,,very good sign that they know they are running out of time, options and verbal story telling while trying to twist and alter facts in hopes just one or two jurors buy it and causes a dead lock and potential mistrial.

Respect for taking a shot in the dark though…can’t be mad they are trying to fight till last breath….: think it’s a bit late though and facts will still be facts in the end …KR, given the evidence and witness testimony and alike yo to this point , is a NOT GUILTY women ..as she should be under current circumstances

 

[Spider92]

The 3 flights of stairs are the evidence he was in the house. Not rocket science.

What does that mean? 3 flights?
Do we know who testifies Tuesday?

 

[missy1974]

She did strike something. John's car in his driveway. It's on video.

For those that have followed the last few years... correct me if I'm wrong, but when these stories were published and going into the 1st trial, no one knew that she had hit John's vehicle, did they? That came out in Trial 1?

I sometimes click on the stories that are posted and even with the bit I know now makes most of them not truthful. JMO

The post you were replying to is a good example... from Aug 2023, before the first trial. And now we know, she DID hit something.. his car in the driveway.

 

[Malleeboy]

The time of the butt dials is not the same as the video. I can't find in his previous testimony about any calls at that time.
Doesn't mean that there wasn't, it just wasn't brought up last trial.
It could also be Facetime or another app that doesn't log calls like cell records would. I think they were only able to get the cell records and not the actual phone.. because well... he disposed of the phone.

Butt dial to Brian Albert was at 2:22am
1:27 am at Canton PD carpark
1:28 enters Canton PD
1:34 Clear phone usage outside in car park
Gets duffel bag and snow broom
He walks around in heavy snow in hoodie, open and shuts doors
1:45:52 Leaves in Jeep Wangler

I wonder if the Feds have who the call @ 1:34 is to?

 

[Recidivist]

ADA Brennan’s redirect was brilliant. He’s a master at his craft. Love watching him! Hope in his future he will be teaching law. Ive never seen such masterful work in my life!

Jackson talks about integrity and honor… yet, they are the ones who lied to the court, lied about paying witnesses, utilize Signal app, and deleted 100 text messages. Yep.

I cant imagine that the jury gave much attention to Jackson’s cross examination. Most likely they’re thankful he’s done with his cross of Sgt YB. Jackson’s mention of “beer muscles” [never heard that one] and liquid courage, a joke, and he’s doing exactly what defense's do - throwing everything against a wall and see what sticks. Nothing relevant to the case, they got nothing. Keep reaching…

Im sure the jury notices that Jackson persistently interrupts ADA Brennan and ADA Brennan rarely objects while Jackson is doing his long winded cross. ADA Brennan is fair, confident, and patient and Jackson constantly panics resulting in interruptions.


Re: Microscopic pieces

Will be great once the microscopic pieces of tail light found in John O’Keefe’s clothes come in.
You cant plant microscopic pieces of tail light in someone’s clothing.
You cant see these pieces w/o a microscope. It’s impossible to plant something you cant see.

In addition, the sharp edges of tail light pieces found explain cuts on arm of John O’Keefe.

My very own opinion for now.

Re: Brennan. You forgot compromised, corrupt, and creepy.