MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #26 Retrial

[keek]

At least he made these arrangements ahead of time. Higgins had been drinking how much? And he did all of his own driving. What a surprise, law enforcement driving while drunk, hmm.....

It is the norm for him, has to have it. LE relative posts on fb when and where the checkpoints will be that weekend.. YESSSSSSSSSS, TRUE. I always think, hmm. as are you NOT supposed to drink and drive , though people do for sure, but it is a social attitude, people go out for dinner, drinks etc. You just have to know to have the one. People don't though. The cops are the same. Plenty in this state , MA and sure elsewhere get into accidents, BAD ones, and found to be drunkkkkkk. Not on duty. SO they do.. all age groups of them. IMO

 

[Linda7NJ]

I’m upset no explanation is being provided why there was no frostbite -

 

[LittleSeaTree]

After she wouldn’t issue a ‘homicide’ manner of death, yes.

“The jury previously heard Trooper Proctor’s texts earlier in the trial where he called Dr. Scordi-Bello a “wack job” when he didn’t get a “homicide” determination on the death certificate.”

Live video: Defense in Karen Read murder trial starts calling witnesses after prosecution rests

The prosecution in the Karen Read murder trial rested its case Friday morning after graphic autopsy photos of John O’Keefe were shown in Norfolk Superior Court.

www.yahoo.com

Wild.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Now onto discussing John’s facial wounds. John had ecchymosis ‘raccoon eyes’. Alessi notes and ME agrees ecchymosis wouldn’t account for the laceration on John’s eyelid and nose.

Dr. SB did not evaluate in her report the significance or cause of the lacerations to John’s face.

Alessi is asking if the laceration to the eyelid could be caused by a blunt impact injury. She says yes, by definition a laceration is caused by blunt force injury.

Alessi is asking if it could have happened from John falling backward and hitting his head. ME says obviously no. His eyelid had to have come into contact with a blunt surface. Same for the laceration to John’s nose.

The laceration to John’s eyelid is being shown.

Just really driving this home. The lacerations on the front of John’s face could not be caused by John falling backward and hitting his head.

Judge Cannone is sounding very over it.

ME says yes, lacerations to the face had to occur with another harsh contact. She says it could be consistent with a punch. (Surprised Judge Cannone allowed that!)

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Jury is like 'what are we doing here??'

Yes!!! I think this is the first time they’ve heard this all laid out so clearly!

 

[themonk]

I’m upset no explanation is being provided why there was no frostbite -

They kept the body warm in the basement?

 

[Linda7NJ]

They kept the body warm in the basement?

No, there’s medical reasons why and the ME is not providing them

IMO

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

No, there’s medical reasons why and the ME is not providing them

IMO

What are they then?

 

[ShadyLady]

OMG, touchdown. The good doctor said that there was a party, walking to the house, an altercation and then Brennan objects and Judge says disregard that.

Who would have said that in grand jury??? Where did that come from??

 

[keek]

They kept the body warm in the basement?

Right, he was not out there all night at all. Whenever that FORD EDGE was seen later middle of night, was when he was put there, so a few hours. IMO

 

[missy1974]

No, there’s medical reasons why and the ME is not providing them

IMO

This is still cross.. if there are reasons for it, he will have the opportunity to ask and get the answers.

JMO

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Just really driving this home. The lacerations on the front of John’s face could not be caused by John falling backward and hitting his head.

Judge Cannone is sounding very over it.

ME says yes, lacerations to the face had to occur with another harsh contact. She says it could be consistent with a punch. (Surprised Judge Cannone allowed that!)

Now up is the nose laceration. ME clarifies it’s an abrasion or a scrape.

Now onto John’s arm injuries. Dr. SB did not determine the cause of the wounds in her autopsy report. She noted there was a ‘pattern’ to the wounds, but was not able to determine the cause of those patterned wounds.

 

[themonk]

Now onto whether or not JOK’s injuries were consistent with a motor vehicle injury. The ME says she noted no injuries that she evaluated to be consistent with a motor vehicle injury. No impact site on his legs.

And an independent agency hired by the FBI said JOK was not hit by a car.

What exactly will it take to convince the 'hit by a car' crowd?

Does anyone here still believe JOK was hit by a car?

Please chime in if so.

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

And an independent agency hired by the FBI said JOK was not hit by a car.

What exactly will it take to convince the 'hit by a car' crowd?

Does anyone here still believe JOK was hit by a car?

Please chime in if so.

Come on, she said "did I hit him?". What other evidence do you need? JMO

 

[missy1974]

The look on her face whenever Brennan objects.... lol

I know this is not funny, but it is obvious she is not a fan of Brennan.

And Brennan back up now

 

[kuromiiiilove]

None of John’s clothing came to Dr. S-B.

Alessi clarifies and ME agrees that she could not come to a conclusion on John’s manner of death.

That’s it for cross. Redirect is up.

 

[themonk]

The CW right now

 

[kuromiiiilove]

No, there’s medical reasons why and the ME is not providing them

IMO

Are you insinuating she’s a non-cooperative witness?

 

[Amber29]

Jackson got her to say in trial 1 that the injuries on the arm could be caused by dog claws as a possibility. Wish Alessi had gotten her to say it again.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

I’m upset no explanation is being provided why there was no frostbite -

Because he wasn’t out in the snow long enough to suffer frostbite MOO