MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #27 Retrial

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I am confused by what is happening with this. If Brennan is saying nothing changed then why does he want this brought in? Are you able to explain that? Thank you.
He is saying Burgess always had a ‘possible range’ of time and has now found the exact time. Burgess’ own new report says it was created to align his findings with Ian Whiffins. I also find it really hard to believe the CW was ‘surprised’ by this new report, simply because there’s no reason for Burgess to amend it of his own volition.
 
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Apparently, defense is very very afraid of the "black box" data. jmo

If that's the take from this then I don't even know what to respond with. JMO
 
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Didn’t we just hear Brennan for the CW on record there saying IIUC there are ~’a dozen new opinions’…… that need to be testified to?

WITH? How is this not an ambush? And significant change in strategy? Well into the CW presenting their case?

IMO and IIUC the CW, DA Morrissey, Lally, and Brennan have had years to look at this matter. And a prior trial to test it as well.

IANAL. Yet this sure seems questionable.

There is an old analogy I use in other venues. Some things are like repairing a bicycle while riding it. And yes, I have done that often. But to see that applied or even allowed in a court of law on the record? SMH. MOO
 
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Ive said if from the beginning of trial two. moo ;)

By that logic then the CW must be very afraid of the ARRCA data as they were making the same exact argument. MOO ;)
 
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Brennan is a real weasel IMO. He should be thankful the jury isn’t in the room to see this sneakiness.
Brennan was hired to do whatever it takes to win this case. He’s there to protect the Norfolk County DA et al. JMO.
 
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This is crazy I think.

Apparently, defense is very very afraid of the "black box" data. jmo
I think they are fed up with the shifting times and disappearing video's .
 
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He is saying Burgess always had a ‘possible range’ of time and has now found the exact time. Burgess’ own new report says it was created to align his findings with Ian Whiffins. I also find it really hard to believe the CW was ‘surprised’ by this new report, simply because there’s no reason for Burgess to amend it of his own volition.
Thank you for that explanation. I appreciate it. I also think if they allow it and do the voir dire he will say someone asked him to do it. I think Brennan is not telling the whole truth! IMO
 
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Brennan is opposing voir dire even though he wanted a voir dire for ARCCA. Rules for me, not for thee..
Brennan accused Alessi of saying things without a good faith basis....Projection much Mr Brennan?

Judge C said she wants both sides to be happy

I believe that the now making a chart to show D per Alessi request that there are no changes - Brennan claims there was always a variance indicated so really not a change

A lot sounds different than yesterday. Brennan being "cute by half"?

He's back asking for a second rebuttal to ARRCA's new info only too. That was not a remedy from the VOIR DIRE.

She is going to side with Brennan it appears - bc why not!

IMO, After all they are both from the same "neighborhood" which is so Massachusetts.

JMO
 
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Brennan was hired to do whatever it takes to win this case. He’s there to protect the Norfolk County DA et al. JMO.

Mob lawyer doing Mob lawyer things IMO.
 
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Brennan accused Alessi of saying things without a good faith basis....Projection much Mr Brennan?

Judge C said she wants both sides to be happy

I believe that the now making a chart to show D per Alessi request that there are no changes - Brennan claims there was always a variance indicated so really not a change

A lot sounds different than yesterday. Brennan being "cute by half"?

He's back asking for a second rebuttal to ARRCA's new info only too. That was not a remedy from the VOIR DIRE.

She is going to side with Brennan it appears - bc why not!

IMO, After all they are both from the same "neighborhood" which is so Massachusetts.

JMO

RBBM -- LOL JMO
 
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The jurors are human. They can't sit stonefaced. Does anyone know any other cases where a judge has given simular instructions. Not on any of the juries I have sat on. moo
I could never be seated as a juror due to my facial expressions. Dead giveaway.
 
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The situation Brennan is suggesting puts the entire process in a Catch-22. By introducing a “new” timeline from their expert mid-trial, they’ve compromised the integrity of the proceedings on multiple levels.

-If the new timeline is allowed in, the defense has been irreparably prejudiced because they already cross-examined witnesses based on the original data.
-If the new timeline is excluded, the witness can’t testify honestly using the old version, because he now knows it’s been changed.
-Even if the judge pauses things to let the defense catch up, their own expert rebuttals (like ARCCA) are now undermined, because they were based on the initial info provided by these very same CW experts.

This move has boxed the court in. It’s a mess. If a mistrial is declared, it should absolutely be WITH prejudice, because the defense didn’t cause this mess, the Commonwealth did. MOO
Are we to believe that the judge did not know this was coming and hasn't decided what she will do about it??? My ? is what will be done about it. I have enough confidence in the defense to think they will overcome it.
What is the alternative? Another mistrial? The CW can't make it through this one AND this judge wants a conviction. Only she can declare a mistrial. She will not delare a mistrial with predjudice. IMO.
 
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