MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #30 Retrial

[arielilane]

Is Karen Reed using scrolling her phone during Brennen’s presentation? I wonder if the judge will address this.

She's on her phone a lot when not yelling at Alessi. moo

 

[arielilane]

Hurry up, Jackson. Looking forward to ADA Brennan's cross. That's his forte.

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

Well it goes like this for me. I follow the facts of a case, the science, forensic and data. All evidence points to the defendant Karen Read as the guilty party...the total of the evidence.

In addition, I dont like bullies [that's not directed at you or any member here]. KR decided she didnt want to take accountability for her actions. KR and her team (at some point) recruited a blogger to do their dirty work and got a bunch of FKR cult who bully and have intimidated innocent people, including children. That’s why I am passionate about this case. It has nothing to do with hate. It’s about justice. Just my honest opinion

But OP said it was a fact calls weren't deleted. Where is the link that shows that information as absolute fact?

 

[sunshineray]

Why is the defense totally disregarding JO's DNA being found on the Lexus? The probability it is JO's DNA are more than astronomical (740 nonillion), according to the DNA expert, are they not?

Scientists confirm victim's DNA on taillight of Karen Read's vehicle

Forensic scientists testified they identified victim John O’Keefe’s DNA on the taillight and a hair found on accused murder Karen Read’s vehicle.

www.unionleader.com

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Why is the defense totally disregarding JO's DNA being found on the Lexus? The probability it is JO's DNA are more than astronomical (740 nonillion), according to the DNA expert, are they not?

Scientists confirm victim's DNA on taillight of Karen Read's vehicle

Forensic scientists testified they identified victim John O’Keefe’s DNA on the taillight and a hair found on accused murder Karen Read’s vehicle.

www.unionleader.com

Probably because it was touch DNA. It’s not indicative of any crime. If he’s ever been and and out the the car there’s a high chance for touch DNA.

Secondly, we saw the open solo cups with Johns presumed blood photographed not two feet from the back of Karen’s Lexus. Not a sterile environment.

 

[AngTxGal]

I’m catching up trying to find a description- if she backed across the road toward the driveway JO wouldn’t be near the flag pole.
If she went forward across the road then backed up near the flag pole to turn around- she could have hit him.
I know there is an estimate of speed forward and then back- consecutive based on the black box.
Defense expert is discussing reconstruction right now- Live.

Not sure where you are getting your information, but the 3 point turn is not when she was alleged to have hit him. That event took place on Cedarcrest, not Fairview.

 

[Moremarie]

I understand that as he is in a relationship with KR it would be expected his DNA is all over the vehicle. If I recall correctly, his DNA was not found in the broken tail light, the CW claim struck/side swiped him.

Why is the defense totally disregarding JO's DNA being found on the Lexus? The probability it is JO's DNA are more than astronomical (740 nonillion), according to the DNA expert, are they not?

Scientists confirm victim's DNA on taillight of Karen Read's vehicle

Forensic scientists testified they identified victim John O’Keefe’s DNA on the taillight and a hair found on accused murder Karen Read’s vehicle.

www.unionleader.com

 

[kuromiiiilove]

This guy teaches the classes that Burgess was pretending he took… MOO

 

[Snoods]

He’s not only highly educated he teaches the classes!

 

[Izzylizzy]

Curious if the defense's expert mechanical engineer will claim that JMc deleted text/phone messages. Of course she did not! But, that's been defense's song and dance. Very sorry they have targeted JMc, all she did was try to help that fateful day.

Keep in mind that witness intimidation is a part of this case, even though it hasn't been mentioned in trial; and I suspect Lucky man (not so lucky) possibly threatened. I recently re-reviewed Lucky's testimony from trial one and he's not credible, imo.

My own opinion.

BBM:
Focusing on this "witness intimidation" you claim to be part of the case and Lucky probably caving to it makes no sense unless it's the Canton crew who did the intimidation/threats.
They're the ones with police power/connections and political connections behind them who could make one local guy's life miserable and fearful.
Lucky had nothing to gain and everything to lose by truthfully testifing.
IMO

 

[Izzylizzy]

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[Wishbone]

We can guess where the car was when JO got out. She doesn’t say he walked in front of her car, so he must have walked behind it. If he was walking to the door- and walked behind her car, she must have been near the mailbox. If she was parked way back near the flagpole- he would have gotten out and walked around the front of the car.
I think she was near the driveway- he got out and walked around the back of the car with the glass in his hand. This means his right arm was bent to hold the glass.
What I can square is the force required to break the tail light on his arm. Did he drop the glass and bend down to pick it up and she hit him in the head with the car?
Did she catch him with the bumper? Did he stagger across the yard and fall and hit his head?
Did she back up and injury him and continue to back up quickly, angry and drunk and hit him more than once while he was staggering around?
It is a long ways from the driveway to where he was found, near the glass, and tail light plastic.
I don’t know- but seems clear to me that she is responsible.
IMO

The Commonwealth's crash reconstructionist, Judson Welcher, said that Karen Read's Lexus could have 'shot off into space,' though it was highly unlikely. (5/28/25)

'Let's Get Back To Reality': Expert Suggests Karen Read's Lexus Could Launch to Space

The Commonwealth's crash reconstructionist, Judson Welcher, said that Karen Read's Lexus could have 'shot off into space.'

www.courttv.com

 

[Leilei]

Why is the defense totally disregarding JO's DNA being found on the Lexus? The probability it is JO's DNA are more than astronomical (740 nonillion), according to the DNA expert, are they not?

Scientists confirm victim's DNA on taillight of Karen Read's vehicle

Forensic scientists testified they identified victim John O’Keefe’s DNA on the taillight and a hair found on accused murder Karen Read’s vehicle.

www.unionleader.com

They JUST started their case.
Literally like a half hour ago.
IMO.

 

[nodamselindistress]

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yep

 

[Leilei]

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Yes, for three days now :'(

 

[Maat99]

The Commonwealth's crash reconstructionist, Judson Welcher, said that Karen Read's Lexus could have 'shot off into space,' though it was highly unlikely. (5/28/25)

'Let's Get Back To Reality': Expert Suggests Karen Read's Lexus Could Launch to Space

The Commonwealth's crash reconstructionist, Judson Welcher, said that Karen Read's Lexus could have 'shot off into space.'

www.courttv.com

It would have been nice for the CW to call a reconstructionist just a teeny bit grounded in reality. Welcher was in full imagination mode and not hiding it very well. Jmo

 

[kuromiiiilove]

DiSogra says that customarily, the trigger event is used the ‘point in time’. But Aperture used the END of the recording event.

ETA: recording event starts when a trigger is sensed. Reached back in time for 5 seconds before, and records for 5 seconds after.

 

[Snoods]

I have to be honest a lot of this is confusing to me and I’ve been inundated with it for months. I hope most of the jury isn’t as dumb as I am.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

When DiSogra applied Burgess’ time offset, to 1162-2, the conclusion he reached was that based on the data in Burgess and Welcher’s reports, regardless of WHAT adjustment is made or which two points are used, the phone lock event always occurs AFTER the end of the TSE/recording event.

John got out of Karen’s car, walked away, and locked his phone. MOO.

 

[rescuemom]

Good argument by AJ for dismissal, Brennen begins with 'in the light most favorable to the CW', because he has not much else.

I have always wondered why, if a defendant is considered innocent until proven guilty, why the scales must be tipped to the prosecution with 'in the light most favorable' to them? Of course that puts weight on the defendant to prove they are not guilty, and that isn't supposed to be the standard, but in reality it most certainly is.

A waste of time and his breath. At least it is on the record. Bev will not give him or the case he presents any break.