MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #30 Retrial

[arielilane]

But OP said it was a fact calls weren't deleted. Where is the link that shows that information as absolute fact?

Not sure what you're talking about, but during live streamed trial (which I won't be searching for) she did not delete any emails. Maybe ADA Brennan will mention it in an upcoming cross or rebuttal (doubt rebuttal). Also, unless I link something, it's an opinion. Thank you

BTW, I am open to hearing the defense's case in chief. However, not too impressive because of defense's actions and ARCCA's shadiness. Some of their witnesses. So yes, I am not trusting of them, because of their own doing. jmo

 

[jepop]

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[kuromiiiilove]

There is no circumstance where the lock event occurred before the trigger event. John had to have locked his phone, AFTER the CW claims he was struck and immediately incapacitated.

ETA: No circumstances in Burgess’ first report. In his amended report, the gap is widened.

 

[arielilane]

@JHall7news


DiSogra is testifying about his qualifications- and his expertise in extracting vehicle data. He reviewed Burgess’ work. He did not do independent tests, was tasked with analyzing his methods in the Aperture report. Also the Welcher power point.

10:04 AM · May 30, 2025

 

[geevee]

Is she going to let AJ ask any informative question??

 

[arielilane]

Someone forgot to update. lol j/k. who cares! Data, forensics and science is what matters.

@JHall7news


The Karen Read trial continues in the AM. At 9am Alan Jackson will likely file a motion to dismiss and argue the prosecution did not provide enough evidence. The jury reports at 9:30. According to Read, First witness for the defense is Matt DiSogra who analyzed cell phone data.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1928258821635342367

DiSogra is testifying about his qualifications- and his expertise in extracting vehicle data. He reviewed Burgess’ work. He did not do independent tests, was tasked with analyzing his methods in the Aperture report. Also the Welcher power point.

 

[Snoods]

Hmmm this guy is actually a good teacher. He’s making it easy for me understand how Burgess messed up on his analysis. If I understand it hopefully so will the jury.

 

[Younger Sister]

I did not follow the first trial. As I watch this retrial it brings to mind Proverbs 29:2 "When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice, but when a wicked person rules, the people groan" To view the outrageous bias in this case has been disheartening. It has been demonstrated by law enforcement and the Common Wealth representatives that there is no interest or care about the facts. Their only goal is to convict Karen Read. As the defense begins their case, we can only hope that they will be allowed to do so. As we have observed the behavior of the judge (ie) hostility towards the defense, loud sighing, checking her watch, rolling her eyes, rushing questions, limiting questions, suppressing information, sustaining the majority of the prosecution objections, and limiting evidence, that hope is doubtful.

 

[nodamselindistress]

Didn't somebody mention yesterday that Brennan is so special because he does not need to object much? Wondering how that plays out today? He is objecting almost constantly!

 

[Izzylizzy]

I have to be honest a lot of this is confusing to me and I’ve been inundated with it for months. I hope most of the jury isn’t as dumb as I am.

LOL!
Right there with you and quite a few times I've wondered if I was on the jury how I'd handle my confusion.

Anyone..

Did any juror(s) from the first trial speak out about the testimonies from both sides by the accident re re-constructionist experts?
I'm curious how much weight they got during deliberations.

 

[ShadyLady]

Wow prosecution really wants to stop DiSogra from analyzing Burgess conclusions.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Is she going to let AJ ask any informative question??

The defense team has been fighting with their hands tied behind their backs this entire trial, IMO. What do you mean, he’s not allowed to ask about the differences in Burgess’ reports?

 

[arielilane]

@KristinaRex


Brief sidebar after a series of objections are sustained. Jackson now back questioning DiSogra. Focusing on whether John O'Keefe could have locked his cell phone prior to the reverse event recorded on Read's car. DiSogra says no... lock was after.


10:16 AM · May 30, 2025

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Wow prosecution really wants to stop DiSogra from analyzing Burgess conclusions.

DiSogra said he was aware of Burgess and Aperture. I’d love to hear his opinion of their work. He already said they did something unusual and atypical to the crash reconstruction field by using the end of the tech stream event rather than the trigger point itself.

 

[Forest_Wood]

I see you are saying she could have seen him walk to the door and still could be questioning if he returned to the car after arriving at the door.

Karen said that she was waiting for John to return to the car to confirm if they were both invited to the party. It was snowing, wet snowing, which means it was falling like rain on the windshield and windows. She said she had her music on and may have had her wipers on that affects hearing also. She might have been looking at her phone while waiting. Her dome light was on, according to eye witnesses, which means it was lighter in her vehicle than outside of the vehicle, which also means it's harder to see outside when a light is on. He could easily have returned to the vehicle without her realizing he was even there. If she went to drive away without realizing he was even beside the car, maybe in her problem solving mind, she wondered if she had clipped him. So there is no contradiction there at all IMO.
MOO

 

[Forest_Wood]

Hope no one is moving hands in the courtroom today. We need to keep Alessi safe. jmo

<modsnip: Removed personalizing>

Welcher was trying to dominate his entire testimony right from the beginning of his cross examination when he made his inappropriate greeting to the defense attorney. From there, he continued to interrupt and refused to answer yes or no as appropriate. He was trying to be the top dog in that courtroom. Alessi was trying to rein him in since the judge would not.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

We are looking at Welcher’s slide 33. Where he acknowledged there’s a difference between the time Aperture calculated for the end of 1162-2 and the lock event on John’s phone.

DiSogra says that the phone lock event occurred 26 seconds after - using Welcher’s calculations - but Welcher said it was ‘within’ the TSE on his slides.

 

[Soulmagent]

What makes that clear?

Why is the defense totally disregarding JO's DNA being found on the Lexus? The probability it is JO's DNA are more than astronomical (740 nonillion), according to the DNA expert, are they not?

Scientists confirm victim's DNA on taillight of Karen Read's vehicle

Forensic scientists testified they identified victim John O’Keefe’s DNA on the taillight and a hair found on accused murder Karen Read’s vehicle.

www.unionleader.com

No , The lexus lived in John's garage. Where his stuff goes. Maybe he cleaned snow off at the bar? It be weird if they didnt find his dna there to me. He might have even helped her pick out the suv.

 

[Wishbone]

I’m responding to a post that said clearly in the trial that the attorney said ‘we do not know where she began backing from.’
We do not

It sounds like you do- so where did she park, where did she begin backing from?
Does the car black box solidify the car location? No.

KR herself says she saw JO walk into the house.
She also questions if she could have back into him, or run over his foot.
She is contradicting her own words- have you not watched the documentary?

IMO

The defense does not have to prove where her car was located. It is the cw's burden to provide the evidence.

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[kuromiiiilove]

Didn't somebody mention yesterday that Brennan is so special because he does not need to object much? Wondering how that plays out today? He is objecting almost constantly!

God forbid actual facts, math, and methodology comes out… MOO