MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #30 Retrial

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Was everyone so lovey dovey over Brennan about what a great guy and attorney he was when he was defending a mobster charged with 19 murders?
He didn't do very well with that case either, did he?
 
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The defense expert witness is meant to counter the CW expert witness. The defense's role is not to solved the case, rather, they aim to defend and demonstrate that the CW expert witness's findings are inaccurate, thus necessitating the rebuttal.

The burden of proof lies with the commonwealth, not the defendant. IMO
One is a professional, and the other a professional "witness". I know who I would believe.
 
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Dr. Welcher talented engineer and well respected. I know many engineers, and I feel I know this man. Love it!

Re: ARCCA witnesses
-- Did not go to the crime scene
-- Did not view the vehicle
-- Did not look at tech stream data
Yet, Alessi wanted to know if Dr. Welcher went to 34F residence and garage.

One of many talents of ADA Brennan: he does not need to object because of confidence in witnesses' testimony.

Alessi is a dual multi-tasking attorney- he helps the CW.

My thoughts are w/madam court reporter

Matter of opinion

RBBM -- This doesn't appear to have come to fruition JMO
 
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Trying to pay attention while working, but can someone please explain what I thought I heard the witness say? Did he say that the Aperture methodology/results were just as good as any others? Is he not saying they are wrong, but rather just saying there are other logical/sound results?
I believe he was saying that out of all of those numbers, Aperture focused on the one that would support their "theory" over all the other numbers present, where any one of those numbers could be correct. MOO
 
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That's great. Someone has lost their life and someone else's life is on the line in a murder trial but the "expert witness" is on the stand apparently to provide humor.
Right? He made this joke because he is inventing accident scenarios willy nilly and the “joke” is that he has no idea what happened and he could make literally any scenario fit.
 
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That’s completely fair, you’re entitled to your interpretation. But just to clarify, this isn’t about some dramatic Vannatter-style frame job conspiracy theory. To me, it’s about objective failures in procedure that would raise red flags in any case, regardless of who’s on trial.

Proctor wasn’t just a random rogue actor; he was the lead investigator who kept John O’Keefe’s shirt, potentially one of the most important piece of physical evidence,for six weeks outside the chain of custody before it ever made it to the lab. That’s not something to wave away, IMO. The state has the burden of proof, and when they mishandle critical evidence, the credibility of that proof is in question. You don’t have to believe in an orchestrated cover-up to acknowledge that this investigation was sloppy, biased, and deeply compromised. If this were happening to someone you loved, wouldn’t you want the same scrutiny? MOO
Well said. And not only did Proctor keep this evidence for weeks, when the person received it who was testing it, his clothes were in the same container as pieces of the taillight IIRC. I forget the name of the witness but she had to dump all the little pieces out onto paper from the bigger bag. Shoddy and shady.
MOO
 
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I believe that he was asked to do just that. To impeach their shoddy expertise.

I’m not sure I would call their expertise shoddy, this young guy Disogra has been a testifying expert on exactly ONE time in court and not on this topic.
I can’t see how what he did helped the defense.
Maybe it confused the jury and adds some complexity- which could to some be doubt?
I don’t see how he actually helped, yet…

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And this is how you act on cross. Class act. MOO.
 
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One is a professional, and the other a professional "witness". I know who I would believe.
So true @ShadyLady ….. and it is also IMO noteworthy to recall that the two Aperture LLC ‘expert witness’ testifying had those “Not For Expert Designation” watermarks flashed across their downloadable CVs. Like this one for Dr. Welcher which is still available on their website links. SMH. MOO

 

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objections by defense over ruled.....no surprise
 
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Brennen starts out sounding aggravated with a sheen of sweat on his forehead, I guess JBC planning the break to give him time to get it together wasn't a great big help.
 
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objections by defense over ruled.....no surprise
I really wish there was someone who tracked how many times Judge Cannone sustained objections issued by the CW vs the defense, but even I am not that much of a glutton for pain!
 
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OMG...now we are back to side swipe....where is the impact to shatter tail lights again??
 
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So true @ShadyLady ….. and it is also IMO noteworthy to recall that the two Aperture LLC ‘expert witness’ testifying had those “Not For Expert Designation” watermarks flashed across their downloadable CVs. Like this one for Dr. Welcher which is still available on their website links. SMH. MOO

Double sneaky, imo....hide the dog!!
 
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I’m not sure I would call their expertise shoddy, this young guy Disogra has been a testifying expert on exactly ONE time in court and not on this topic.
I can’t see how what he did helped the defense.
Maybe it confused the jury and adds some complexity- which could to some be doubt?
I don’t see how he actually helped, yet…

IMO
I would call an expert who lied about his own background shoddy but that's JMO.
 
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This hurry up from the judge is wild. I could actually listen to this guy
yes, yes, let's not let the jury hear the info that would be useful in reaching a verdict
I really wish there was someone who tracked how many times Judge Cannone sustained objections issued by the CW vs the defense, but even I am not that much of a glutton for pain!
it is ever so painful
 
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objections by defense over ruled.....no surprise
Thank you for that update @Younger Sister …… and sadly no surprise there. The also larger issue IMO is the judges either reluctance, refusal, or other reasons to not state clearly on the record citing the basis, case law, or precedence, for a sustained or overruled objection. IANAL. Maybe this will be a factor also in the event an appeal or appeals become necessary. MOO
 
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