MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #31 Retrial

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For anyone that has not been able to watch, I think he has only had to reference a report 1 or 2 times his whole testimony. He DID bring a laptop, but it has not been used at all, I don't know if he has a watch on because he has not looked at it. The lawyers have managed the powerpoint presentation on their own LOL
 
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Brennan.. the jury does know if it was done or not, if they remember...

it was not done IIRC
 
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This recross is a mess. This guy doesn’t get flustered like Welcher. He’s been clear and truthful on what he’s here to do. MOO
 
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Geesh @Tricia I thought we were being spanked LOL :eek:
 
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Relying on the data, if it's Garbage in .. garbage out..

relying on Burgess' data and Welcher's data...

That was a pretty good ending to that testimony for Jackson IMO
 
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For anyone that has not been able to watch, I think he has only had to reference a report 1 or 2 times his whole testimony. He DID bring a laptop, but it has not been used at all, I don't know if he has a watch on because he has not looked at it. The lawyers have managed the powerpoint presentation on their own LOL
Thanks for everyone updating! Every time I tune into the live it's just the ceiling fan.
 
  • #28
Jury is being sent home for the day... if I heard the judge right.. back in 5 for voir dire? Not sure of who...
 
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so... DiSogra didn't do any of his own independent testing or analyzing.

He solely relied on Burgess and Welcher and their data, to show that they didn't apply it properly.

Brennan shot at him repeatedly about the data and if it is wrong... his opinion would be wrong... I do not know how it helps the CW for Brennan to trash the data that his experts had in their reports?
 
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so... DiSogra didn't do any of his own independent testing or analyzing.

He solely relied on Burgess and Welcher and their data, to show that they didn't apply it properly.

Brennan shot at him repeatedly about the data and if it is wrong... his opinion would be wrong... I do not know how it helps the CW for Brennan to trash the data that his experts had in their reports?
I’m baffled at this. Is Brennan trying to lose this case?
 
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Is she contradicting her own words, or is she playing out scenarios in her head? I watched the ID documentary. Frankly. I found her refreshingly honest and open. I’m from Massachusetts so maybe I see a kindred spirit where folks from other states and/or countries, might find her abrasive…..I’ve been thinking about that a lot lately….imo.
Absolutely it could be that she is playing out scenarios in her head and sharing them aloud.
It also could be that this happened years ago and so she has become a bit numb.
My point was it doesn’t seem very bright as the consequences of her being read wrong for her personally are huge. Her story can be told once this is over- but her need to tell it to an audience now can’t be on the advice of her attorney.
The public displays and high fives and smiles on the news as she has gone into court are a bit much for me. It is a murder case- a young guy died a death that likely was preventable.

Does having a feeling about who she is as a person make me unable to see and read the facts?
No, I likely would fight just as hard if I was innocent. I wouldn’t do it as publicly, wouldn’t be on social media or entangled with anyone on social media, wouldn’t have said what she said on phone calls and texts to people, but I’m not her.
None of that makes her guilty, I’m not a binary thinker. Life is infinitely more complex than yes or no, wrong or right, guilty or not guilty…

IMO
 
  • #33
I’m baffled at this. Is Brennan trying to lose this case?

I’m baffled that the defense didn’t have DiSorga do the analysis as an independent expert.
He simply analyzed data and charts created by someone else. Why?

Some may not see that as a big deal- I do. He cannot come across as the expert he is trying to appear to be- if he cannot show that their analysis is wrong. He can’t speak on how they collected or analyzed the data at all- he can only speak on what was presented.

To me that is a huge mistake on the part of the defense

IMO
 
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Kelly Dever ....
she has to come back on Monday...

She is a BPD officer.


Voir dire is of a friend of Proctor.
 
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This recross is a mess. This guy doesn’t get flustered like Welcher. He’s been clear and truthful on what he’s here to do. MOO
And Brennan, surely as a rabid dog the entire cross, fails to discredit the witness and ends up just blowing up Aperture’s credibility if anything. Another self destruct!
Great witness clear and straightforward.
JMO
 
  • #36
I have to borrow a scene from Liar Liar to describe Brennan today:

‘Objection your Honor!’ ‘On what grounds?’ ‘Because it’s devastating to my case!’

MOO and just a little fun :)
 
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I’m baffled that the defense didn’t have DiSorga do the analysis as an independent expert.
He simply analyzed data and charts created by someone else. Why?

Some may not see that as a big deal- I do. He cannot come across as the expert he is trying to appear to be- if he cannot show that their analysis is wrong. He can’t speak on how they collected or analyzed the data at all- he can only speak on what was presented.

To me that is a huge mistake on the part of the defense

IMO
The burden of proof is on the commonwealth, not the defence. They hired someone to dismantle the work of the “experts” at Aperture and that’s all that was needed.
 
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Voir dire of an old high school friend of Proctor (who’s nick name is Chip) who was on a text chain of all these high school friends for some 30 years.

I think the defense is trying to get some of these texts in.


ETA: WOW….one was something like…..
We’re going to pin it on the girl. She’s going to go down for this.
 
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The burden of proof is on the commonwealth, not the defence. They hired someone to dismantle the work of the “experts” at Aperture and that’s all that was needed.

If it is my ars on the line- I hire an expert to redo all of the analysis and show clearly that what they did is incorrect.
Defense teams hire their own independent expert to debunk the prosecution all the time. They have to dismantle the evidence with their own evidence- he didn’t do that.
I work in science and statistics- I know the difference between redoing the work of someone else and doing it yourself. The defense took a short cut here- was it cheaper?
If I’m on the side of KR, I would be wondering why they took this out.

IMO
 
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