MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #32 Retrial

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OMG She allows EVERYTHING for Hanky Panky!!! Ugh!!!
 
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The commonwealth, IMO, have no evidence that JOK was hit by a vehicle. Why did the CW pursue the case? That’s very suspicious to me.
ETA: fix grammar.
A man was hit by a vehicle driven by an intoxicated woman. He was gravely injured and left to die in a blizzard. That's why the CW brought the case. I don't believe KR intentionally hit JO but she did hit him and cause his death nonetheless, IMO. I don't believe the charge of Murder in the Second Degree is appropriate. I do believe Vehicular Manslaughter while Intoxicated and Leaving the Scene are appropriate charges as that's what happened, IMO and AJMO.
 
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The CW witness predictably showed you plausible ways it did happen, and the defense witness plausible ways it didn't. Both of them has an agenda and thus the problem with expert opinions. You can't question an expert about his opinion on things they didn't testify about or are not claiming to be an expert in, that might also totally contradict what they just said.

I have posted extensively on why (all) expert witnesses should almost universally be ignored unless they are testifying about measurements they actually made.
How does dr Wolfe have an agenda when he was hired to do this by the fbi. He wasn’t contacted by the defense until after the fbi released this information and the findings had already been in
 
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The CW witness predictably showed you plausible ways it did happen, and the defense witness plausible ways it didn't. Both of them has an agenda and thus the problem with expert opinions. You can't question an expert about his opinion on things they didn't testify about or are not claiming to be an expert in, that might also totally contradict what they just said.

I have posted extensively on why (all) expert witnesses should almost universally be ignored unless they are testifying about measurements they actually made.
No I dont think the CW showed how a tail light could be shattered. Not one bit.
Defense showed how much force it would take to shatter that light.
 
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OMG She allows EVERYTHING for Hanky Panky!!! Ugh!!!
His line of questioning is ridiculous. He should be dealing with the tests.
 
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The Judge has said, I'm going to allow it to every single objection. Unbelievable!
 
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Dever did the defense's work for them.

There is no doubt she made a terrible impression on the stand.

The jurors have seen a steady stream of perjurers on the stand. Dever is just another in a long line of liars.
Respectfully, I couldn't disagree with you more.
 
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Judge Cannone allowing every single objection by Defense it’s comical at this point
 
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I think there's a plethora of very convincing evidence from witnesses that shows JO was hit by the Lexus driven by KR. AJMO
There were no witnesses to the alleged vehicle strike.
 
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So far, judge is over ruling any defense objection.
Her favoritism and bias is so blatant, IMO.
Surely, the jurors can see this...
 
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so.. I'm mostly listening right now...

Brennan is seriously going to say that Wolfe lied about testifying appox 20 times, he has testified 11 times, Wolfe said he included depositions.

well then.. all that testing must be wrong *EYE ROLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL*

Why didn't he clean it up?

Wolfe to Brennan... I'm not responsible for asking the questions sir

made me LOL

now asking about close family .. is this the wife thing?
 
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I find it suspicious that the video that is not missing from the camera at John's house is helpful to Karen. If law enforcement deleted videos as you intimate, why would they preserve Karen bumping his car, creating an alternate explanation for the broken taillight?
Do you have an idea who deleted the other videos? KR did not have access to John’s security cameras and could not delete or edit anything. IMO.
 
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He has a wife? Bummer.
 
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Waiting for the Brennan question coming..(which will be allowed by the judge)...." Did you know that an eye witness said KR said " I hit him, I hit him, I hit him?"
 
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I find it suspicious that the video that is not missing from the camera at John's house is helpful to Karen. If law enforcement deleted videos as you intimate, why would they preserve Karen bumping his car, creating an alternate explanation for the broken taillight?
sloppy police work
 
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What witness? Not one person claims to have seen it happen.
Throughout the whole case the CW put on and continuing with some of the defense witnesses that backfired for them. It's well established what my thoughts are. MO
 
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A man was hit by a vehicle driven by an intoxicated woman. He was gravely injured and left to die in a blizzard. That's why the CW brought the case. I don't believe KR intentionally hit JO but she did hit him and cause his death nonetheless, IMO. I don't believe the charge of Murder in the Second Degree is appropriate. I do believe Vehicular Manslaughter while Intoxicated and Leaving the Scene are appropriate charges as that's what happened, IMO and AJMO.
BBM. IMO, the bolded statement is not a fact. The CW definitely overcharged with murder 2. That makes me suspicious, too.
 
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Can you list the prosecution witnesses that have lied on the stand please?

Thanks
In this trial, none "lied" on the stand. MO
 
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