MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #33 Retrial

[mzmarymac]

Just watched the hoodie display and questions. It seems the defense didn't even realize Brennan was wrong. They said nothing at the time it happened. Brennan sat down and Jackson began re-direct about Dr Whelcher using a 50% dummy, the force calculations on the hybrid arm, then the shard pieces size, the "tin" with the shards and not one question about the hoodie. Then a sidbar, then Brennan re-cross we're back to questions about velocity, another sidebar. How long did it take for the defense to realize Brennan misspoke about the hoodie te

it’s strange Alessi would ask for a mistrial. if the D was confident in their case he would not want to have to run the trial yet again.

My guess is they realise ARCCA landed badly.

MOO

He asked for a mistrial WITH PREJUDICE, meaning it could not be retried.

 

[shotgun09]

So do you think the defense will subpoena him and ask him about that? They'll have to right?

Nope!
The defense doesn't HAVE to do anything.
a mere suggestion of corruption and planting of evidence is reasonable doubt.

 

[bobbymkii]

Just watched the hoodie display and questions. It seems the defense didn't even realize Brennan was wrong. They said nothing at the time it happened. Brennan sat down and Jackson began re-direct about Dr Whelcher using a 50% dummy, the force calculations on the hybrid arm, then the shard pieces size, the "tin" with the shards and not one question about the hoodie. Then a sidbar, then Brennan re-cross we're back to questions about velocity, another sidebar. How long did it take for the defense to realize Brennan misspoke about the hoodie tears?

So it's not Hank's fault for lying to the court. It's the Defense's fault for not noticing quickly enough?

 

[keek]

RSBM

Yes, that is exactly what Matt McCabe instructed everyone to say which is definitely a normal thing to have to instruct people about in a murder case

He was on a certain group chat with a few of the house party relatives. One not wanting to even text about something, the text chat is public still probably. He told one of them to get CHRIS ALBERT to ask questions upon hearing the news station was around. WHY all the ongoing concern and little group text, where one of the relatives was not wanting to be caught even texting about this event. Why? What is the big concern to them about JOK left for dead on a lawn that was NOT the McCabes. Why is it their big concern, especially Matt Mc adding when discussing the News person around , tell them the guy never went in the house. Not his house, not his issue. Obviously was never his 'friend' either, his and JMc's.. his wife. What is your concern MMc? Why did he say pretty immediately, and of course found out, if she pleas it's over, if she fights it, there's an episode. Again, why the concern? IMO

 

[Warwick7]

So do you think the defense will subpoena him and ask him about that? They'll have to right?

Saying it's obvious and saying they have to, are 2 very different things.

M00

 

[themonk]

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https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/29/us/cell-phone-data-expert-witness-retrial-karen-read

 

[HarmonyE.]

So do you think the defense will subpoena him and ask him about that? They'll have to right?

Nope.

Best not to call the boogyman. The truth here speaks for itself. Dirty, fired cop shouldn't get a chance to even try to explain away his bad behavior.

 

[Warwick7]

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The only thing these two electronics have in common is JO's phone was attached to the Lexus till he got out of the vehicle at 12:24am

 

[sunshineray]

Nope!
The defense doesn't HAVE to do anything.
a mere suggestion of corruption and planting of evidence is reasonable doubt.

I think they may have to do something because their witnesses testimonies have been to greatly called in question if not outright debunked. JMO

 

[ShadyLady]

He was on a certain group chat with a few of the house party relatives. One not wanting to even text about something, the text chat is public still probably. He told one of them to get CHRIS ALBERT to ask questions upon hearing the news station was around. WHY all the ongoing concern and little group text, where one of the relatives was not wanting to be caught even texting about this event. Why? What is the big concern to them about JOK left for dead on a lawn that was NOT the McCabes. Why is it their big concern, especially Matt Mc adding when discussing the News person around , tell them the guy never went in the house. Not his house, not his issue. Obviously was never his 'friend' either, his and JMc's.. his wife. What is your concern MMc? Why did he say pretty immediately, and of course found out, if she pleas it's over, if she fights it, there's an episode. Again, why the concern? IMO

I also found it curious that ChrisA invited John to Waterfall, but per security video, I did not see Chris talking to John. And even though John greeted BA and BH they did not really visit with them.

 

[sunshineray]

Nope.

Best not to call the boogyman. The truth here speaks for itself. Dirty, fired cop shouldn't get a chance to even try to explain away his bad behavior.

But there's been absolutely no proof of anyone planting evidence. Do you think it's coming up?

 

[jepop]

I did not go to dog bite university. However, sadly, I witnessed our family dog bite my husband. IMO the resulting injury caused by that attack looked just like JOK's arm. Regrettably, the defense is not being allowed to address the potential for JOK's arm injury being due to a dog bite. It is clear Laposata would be qualified to clarify the cause of the arm injuries.

They had Russell, thankfully and she was a fantastic witness. But yeah, the defense is being hamstrung IMO by the judge at this point. And rushing their case in chief on her own whim is not ok, is not right. She is communicating negatively about the defense to the jury with her attitude and impatience, which she cloaks as an unsolicited concern for the jury. It's gaslighting. Jmo.

If she can't leave the defense alone to get on with their job in their own time, she should have recused herself. Moo her job is to oversee the trial and ensure fairness and impartiality, not micro manage the defense's case. Wait until we get to closing statements. I can't wait to hear her decision on how long and whether she'll allow the attorneys any input at all like a normal judge. Jmo

 

[ShadyLady]

They had Russell, thankfully and she was a fantastic witness. But yeah, the defense is being hamstrung IMO by the judge at this point. And rushing their case in chief on her own whim is not ok, is not right. She is communicating negatively about the defense to the jury with her attitude and impatience, which she cloaks as an unsolicited concern for the jury. It's gaslighting. Jmo.

If she can't leave the defense alone to get on with their job in their own time, she should have recused herself. Moo her job is to oversee the trial and ensure fairness and impartiality, not micro manage the defense's case. Wait until we get to closing statements. I can't wait to hear her decision on how long and whether she'll allow the attorneys any input at all like a normal judge. Jmo

Gaslighting, exactly!!

She also knows more than forensic doctors. And medical examiners.

 

[keek]

They had Russell, thankfully and she was a fantastic witness. But yeah, the defense is being hamstrung IMO by the judge at this point. And rushing their case in chief on her own whim is not ok, is not right. She is communicating negatively about the defense to the jury with her attitude and impatience, which she cloaks as an unsolicited concern for the jury. It's gaslighting. Jmo.

If she can't leave the defense alone to get on with their job in their own time, she should have recused herself. Moo her job is to oversee the trial and ensure fairness and impartiality, not micro manage the defense's case. Wait until we get to closing statements. I can't wait to hear her decision on how long and whether she'll allow the attorneys any input at all like a normal judge. Jmo

It has been very, very obvious and embarrassing really, to watch and see the not so subtle communicating to the jurors that the defense attorneys are a pain in the such and so every chance possible. I assume they can see that and also feel cringed out. THey are there and expect to be treated professionally in a serious case of a person's life, not rushed and treated as children without identities and thoughts of their own. I really assume they can see through all that though. They are adults. IMO

 

[Warwick7]

But there's been absolutely no proof of anyone planting evidence. Do you think it's coming up?

After Barros testified the taillight was not completely damaged - it was cracked, and a piece was missing. But absolutely not completely damaged like in the picture.

Well then, the 47 pieces must gravitated off of Karen's car and spread themselves all over the lawn.

Oh oh there was one too many pieces...oops!

 

[BUF]

Wait until we get to closing statements. I can't wait to hear her decision on how long and whether she'll allow the attorneys any input at all like a normal judge.

Me too

 

[lohrtabitha]

Judge insisting on blaming atty's of defense for holding up jurors who apparently are fed up per judge. ASK them, though not possible at this time. They are there to understand and hear all the evidence of truth, they HAVE to know how incredibly important this trial is for KR, no matter. Projecting going on and speaking for them is not acceptable in a fair trial. THEY will see and hear all of this once trial is over to confirm their thoughts one way or another and would love to see what they say out loud. IMO

She must be delusional. If they jurrors are fed up then she should be having the conversation with Brennan not the defense. Moo

 

[kuromiiiilove]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1932168416628294128

 

[mzmarymac]

oh indeed?

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/29/us/cell-phone-data-expert-witness-retrial-karen-read

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Location data is a funny thing. On 2 of my kids' phones I can see their locations to exactly where they are at a location. For example. when they are home, I literally can see that they are in their own rooms. My son and husbands' phones are often WAY off, sometimes showing them blocks away from where I know they are at.

 

[Warwick7]

"Many people believe the case against Karen Read is flawed and rigged. Many people believe she cannot get a fair trial and have little confidence in the Norfolk County DA and the criminal justice system as a whole. Days like today further these beliefs. What a horrible display in front of a national and international audience.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1932164941420613725