VERDICT WATCH MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #35 Retrial

[missy1974]

If anyone is interested, you can follow @ LawCrimeVerdict on x/twitter to be alerted when the verdict is in. I don’t usually use twitter but since it’s lunch break I’m going to follow it and set it so that I’ll get an alert on my phone when it’s time. Someone mentioned this during T1 and it helped me out then so passing the idea along

It is the only X account I get notifications from lol I always smile when I get a verdict notification... sometimes even if I haven't followed trials, I will go watch

 

[GarAndTeed]

Counter "coop"- wth???

 

[Anniesflowers]

are we going to hear about the ham sandwich???

I have been waiting to hear what, if any, condiments he chose……

 

[Soulmagent]

If anyone is interested, you can follow @ LawCrimeVerdict on x/twitter to be alerted when the verdict is in. I don’t usually use twitter but since it’s lunch break I’m going to follow it and set it so that I’ll get an alert on my phone when it’s time. Someone mentioned this during T1 and it helped me out then so passing the idea along

So yeah , I am not watching the jury instructions either .. I will read them.
Also I need to check that link about the day the sate rested the case.

 

[Teche]

The Brian’s were celebrating? Celebrating what? The funeral they’d been to earlier that day of a LEO?

Wasn’t it their kid’s birthday?

 

[nodamselindistress]

30 minutes or so for lunch.

Guess there is always a first time, but so far this court has not been able to return on time for any lunch break that I recall.

 

[missy1974]

What are the guesses - Hos long will the jury deliberate?

I think... I would like more info on who is going to deliberate first. Some reporters give some info on them, but never know which way they are actually leaning.

I am unsure if we will get a guilty/not guilty though... hate to think it will be hung jury again.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Counter "coop"- wth???

Also… the evidence is not in ‘dis-poot’

 

[missy1974]

hmm did they just do the jury selection thing? came back briefly and heard the judge say 'Victoria, we are done'

 

[detectivewannab]

Why do we have a sidebar?

 

[geevee]

Hank just suggested something I don’t think ever ever heard form the CW before - that Karen potentially stopped at Fairview to look at John’s body BEFORE going to Jen McCabe’s house?!

I believe that was stated in this filing before the first trial, it's 49 pages long so I'm not going to look for it lol but I remember reading that in a filing early on.

https://htv-prod-media.s3.amazonaws.com/files/karen-read-document-240222-125438-65d7abb038003.pdf

 

[LaineyJ]

By the time they get sent to deliberate, they will only have a few hours, then break for the weekend. Not sure if it’s better that way or not

 

[GarAndTeed]

I hate that Auntie Bev gets to choose the foreperson; who came up with that idea?

 

[nodamselindistress]

I believe that was stated in this filing before the first trial, it's 49 pages long so I'm not going to look for it lol but I remember reading that in a filing early on.

https://htv-prod-media.s3.amazonaws.com/files/karen-read-document-240222-125438-65d7abb038003.pdf

Right, I heard this rumor but seems nothing ever came of it

 

[louvillian08]

hmmm I know it was implied in the first trial... I am not sure if it came out like that in any testimony in this trial.

I do believe they "said" they looked for video.. isn't that part of "missing" video (maybe it didn't show what they were hoping.. that she went there before Jen's? Conveniently went missing?)

They tried to use cell tower data in the first trial to imply this but it backfired since it showed she connected to the same tower the 2 times we know she was at 34 Fairview. The time they tried to insinuate she went back by herself, she was connected to a different tower.

 

[Forest_Wood]

By the time they get sent to deliberate, they will only have a few hours, then break for the weekend. Not sure if it’s better that way or not

I like that they'll get a chance to at least get to release some of their questions and comments and likely stress to each other before the weekend. I wonder if they will do a vote before the weekend just to see where the numbers stand. It's such a heavy burden on these jurors to decide this case.
MOO

 

[jepop]

I hate that Auntie Bev gets to choose the foreperson; who came up with that idea?

Some state legislator or other. "This is how we do it in MA Mr Jackson"
The problem I have with it, is she selects the foreperson before the other 17 go into the barrell. So she chooses personally. I do not agree with this court statute because it allows a judge to influence the make up of the deliberating jury after voir dire and after a case has concluded.

 

[missy1974]

I like that they'll get a chance to at least get to release some of their questions and comments and likely stress to each other before the weekend. I wonder if they will do a vote before the weekend just to see where the numbers stand. It's such a heavy burden on these jurors to decide this case.
MOO

No matter what their decision ends up being... there will be people that don't agree with them. I hope the court prepares them for that.

It will not be easy. And they probably have no idea what is coming.

JMO

 

[jepop]

I like that they'll get a chance to at least get to release some of their questions and comments and likely stress to each other before the weekend. I wonder if they will do a vote before the weekend just to see where the numbers stand. It's such a heavy burden on these jurors to decide this case.
MOO

I think it should be relatively easy for them unless they somehow forget it is the state's burden and what reasonable doubt is.

 

[shotgun09]

LOL
I would have loved to hear HB ask Rentchler if he used Grey Poupon on his ham sammy. Can you imagine his attempted pronunciation of that?


Oh, sorry ...verdict jitters