VERDICT WATCH MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #35 Retrial

[nightowl1975]

ahhh so Seat 1 .... is the foreman...

She moved that juror there a few weeks ago IIRC

Of course. The one who didn’t write down a single word the entire trial. Not even trying to be discreet.

 

[Forest_Wood]

This is the first day I have not seen John's former girlfriend in court. She's been so consistent to be there every day. I think he should have married that woman when he had a chance because she's been so loyal to him.
MOO

 

[nodamselindistress]

We said all these same things last year!!

 

[missy1974]

They are arguing.. again.. about the jury verdict form.

 

[keek]

This is the first day I have not seen John's former girlfriend in court. She's been so consistent to be there every day. I think he should have married that woman when he had a chance because she's been so loyal to him.
MOO

I don't think it is like that. More to it. IMO.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Yanetti is discussing the verdict slip with Judge Cannone. They are concerned it’s too confusing and are asking that there be not guilty ‘check boxes’ included in the verdict slip with each lesser charge.

ETA: on the slip there are 7 options for a guilty verdict and only one option for a not guilty verdict.

 

[keek]

‘This is the final stage for us’: Karen Read’s father speaks outside court

Closing arguments are underway in the Karen Read retrial Friday.

www.wcvb.com

 

[nightowl1975]

So they are sequestered until they come up with a verdict.

Whoa. Really? They don’t go home til they reach a verdict??

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Judge Cannone does not want to admit their verdict slip unless they find case law that supports their proposed changes.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

IMO - no verdict today. Maybe Monday.

 

[nightowl1975]

Me thinks the only jurors in the alternate basket are the ones previously hand picked by the CW to be thrown out..... how else could the foreman be chosen before the draw JMO hmmm

I believe the foreperson is handpicked by the judge. Then the remaining 17 go in the box or whatever to be chosen for the remaining 11 spots.

That said, it’s very curious to me the ones chosen as alternates just happened to be the ones described in the tweet above as “the science one, the notebook one, etc”.

 

[LvsAMystry]

Me thinks the only jurors in the alternate basket are the ones previously hand picked by the CW to be thrown out..... how else could the foreman be chosen before the draw JMO hmmm

That’s the way it works here sigh and I do mean that in all sense of definitions

 

[Izzylizzy]

Alternate jurors

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13
7
6
17
2
8

 

[missy1974]

Here's the link from trial #1 with Kristina Rex's tweet with the Verdict Slips as issued by the Court.

It's the Manslaughter-- lesser included charges #3 & #4 on page two of Verdict Slip that the AJ previously requested revised to include a N/G box. We later learned that the hung jury left this form blank because they found it confusing!

In the retrial-- it appears DY renewed the defense request to revise the verdict slip for the lesser included charges and reminded the Court of cases where the form was changed. Of course, Judge Cannone wanted to see a copy before making her decision.

VERDICT WATCH Post in thread 'MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #13'

Jun 26, 2024

https://twitter.com/x/status/1805966511250551051

“I don’t really care how it always is in Massachusetts. I care if it’s appropriate. Let me make my argument while it’s not appropriate.” Alan Jackson says. “I’d like an answer from the court, how do they decide she’s not guilty?” (2/4)

“They don’t check the box that says, ‘guilty,’” Judge Cannone says.“That’s not how it should be and it’s over our strong objection,” Jackson says.“It’s immediately appealable…it’s almost like the court is directing” a guilty verdict, Jackson says. (3/4)

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Just bringing this forward from early this morning! Thank you @Seattle1

 

[Izzylizzy]

I believe the foreperson is handpicked by the judge. Then the remaining 17 go in the box or whatever to be chosen for the remaining 11 spots.

That said, it’s very curious to me the ones chosen as alternates just happened to be the ones described in the tweet above as “the science one, the notebook one, etc”.

Why did'nt the court employee who pulled the numbers hold them up and show them?

 

[Forest_Wood]

Whoa. Really? They don’t go home til they reach a verdict??

Isn't that what was meant when the judge said that court person will stand outside their room?

 

[Snoods]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1933595515825934676

Great. This is just great. What are y’all’s feelings on this?

 

[nightowl1975]

Isn't that what was meant when the judge said that court person will stand outside their room?

No, I don’t think so. Sequestered means they don’t go home. They’re all put in a hotel, meals brought in, no internet or news access, that sort of thing.

 

[Leilei]

This is the first day I have not seen John's former girlfriend in court. She's been so consistent to be there every day. I think he should have married that woman when he had a chance because she's been so loyal to him.
MOO

They dated twenty years ago.
I wonder if they were still friendly or communicating after all those years?
IMO.

 

[bobbymkii]

Why did'nt the court employee who pulled the numbers hold them up and show them?

Like the FIFA World Cup draw?