NOT GUILTY MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #37 Retrial

[kaen]

I watched this trial from afar. When you have people who lie and cover up things AND are dishonorable discharged from their employment, the case is tainted. Ms. Read and her team challenged all of us to look critically at crappy invesitigations and hte behavior of those who are sworn to uphold the law. Will never know if she hit him but we also know other things happened that night that might have been the cause of his death.

Ms. Read had the law and the investigative issues on her side.

This man deserves peace in his death. I feel for his family who have endured an awful lose, a terrible investigation and a botched prosecution--2x.

 

[Love Never Fails]

I think it's I love you in sign language?

Okay thanks. Wish i could do it. Ha.

 

[Leilei]

I'm not interested in drama, only evidence. If he was hit at low speed its difficult to have clear evidence of being hit by a car especially in snow. I have seen people get hit at speed and get right up. He was clearly hit hard enough to get knocked out. The theory he was dragged there from inside the house is contradicted by clean snow around him , no foot prints nothing. apparently he was magically placed there by the group who killed him for no reason.

Very little blood from that very serious head wound, too. Where was the blood?
No evidence on his body of a vehicle strike. None.
Among many, many other things.
The verdict was correct.

IMO.

 

[missy1974]

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Sign language? I’m sorry I still don’t understand. I’m not too bright. Then again, i cannot hold both those fingers down. LOL.

the defense asked them to do it so all of them being outside was not a distraction for the court or the jury if they were loud.

I will say JMO because I have no idea if there is a link to it, I just know from all the livefeeds I have watched.

 

[Leilei]

I just got home from work. I'm overjoyed with today's verdict. Not Guilty. Not Guilty. Not Guilty! LOL
I'm delighted for Miss Karen Read, but also for the defense team who needs to be congratulated on such a job well done! And also all of the defense witnesses who put their integrity on the line to speak truth to power!
I can't wait to watch the replay to see everyone's expressions.

It's a good day, my friend <3

 

[katykat]

I always saw this case as basically unprosecutable but I'm surprised they got unanimity on the not guilty. I'd have thought at least a few jurors would buy the data timeline as good evidence of the collision. Interested to hear from some of the jurors if they speak to the media to get a sense of what exactly drove them in their verdict.

I do think in hindsight the defence did very well with the "aesthetics" of the case. Read joining counsel at sidebar, etc. I probably should have paid more attention to the jury watch type analysis which seemed to suggest they really didn't jive with the prosecution at any point.

edit: meant to say prosecution in my final paragraph

 

[missy1974]

So far this special is not horrible.

 

[Wishbone]

I'm not interested in drama, only evidence. If he was hit at low speed its difficult to have clear evidence of being hit by a car especially in snow. I have seen people get hit at speed and get right up. He was clearly hit hard enough to get knocked out. The theory he was dragged there from inside the house is contradicted by clean snow around him , no foot prints nothing. apparently he was magically placed there by the group who killed him for no reason.

Many and varied experts testified to the circumstances of JO's death from both the cw and the defense. And if you watched the trial then you know that their views are in opposition to yours. It could not be proved that JO was hit by a car. That is why the cw lost the case.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Really, on what grounds?

Here's some background .
I've yet to read the court filings and don't know the current status.

O'Keefe's family sues Karen Read, 2 bars where couple drank

Boston Police Officer John O'Keefe's family filed a lawsuit against Karen Read and two Canton bars where prosecutors said the couple was drinking in the hours before his death.

www.wcvb.com

Canton bar responds to wrongful death suit filed by John O'Keefe's family

One bar in Canton, Massachusetts, that is currently being sued by John O’Keefe’s family is formally responding to the allegations that they overserved Karen Read on the night her Boston Police officer boyfriend was killed. In new court documents, C.F. McCarthy’s denies their involvement in the...

www.nbcboston.com

 

[missy1974]

I always saw this case as basically unprosecutable but I'm surprised they got unanimity on the not guilty. I'd have thought at least a few jurors would buy the data timeline as good evidence of the collision. Interested to hear from some of the jurors if they speak to the media to get a sense of what exactly drove them in their verdict.

I do think in hindsight the defence did very well with the "aesthetics" of the case. Read joining counsel at sidebar, etc. I probably should have paid more attention to the jury watch type analysis which seemed to suggest they really didn't jive with the defence at any point.

I think that the defense did a great job getting information from the last jurors. I think they knew what to focus on and what not to. The data, is just not as solid as it appears.... then the whole time drift thing... it did not look good for the CW.

Karen Read may want to send Burgess and Welcher thank you cards.

All JMO

 

[Wishbone]

I always saw this case as basically unprosecutable but I'm surprised they got unanimity on the not guilty. I'd have thought at least a few jurors would buy the data timeline as good evidence of the collision. Interested to hear from some of the jurors if they speak to the media to get a sense of what exactly drove them in their verdict.

I do think in hindsight the defence did very well with the "aesthetics" of the case. Read joining counsel at sidebar, etc. I probably should have paid more attention to the jury watch type analysis which seemed to suggest they really didn't jive with the defence at any point.

The cw lost the case because they couldn't prove KR hit JO with her car. That is what they charged her with and they failed to prove it.

 

[nightowl1975]

Can anyone explain to me the weird wave Kaaren Read and her lawyer always gave?
The little finger and index finger pointed up and the two middle fingers down. I have tried to do that and its not easy. There must be a signal or meaning to it. I just dont get it.

It is not a “weird” wave. It’s ASL for “I love you”.

 

[MerlinFalcon]

It’s incredible to watch this 2020 special. Seeing all those cops lined up for his funeral is so different when not a single cop showed up in his support or for his family at both court cases. They chose to protect the people in that house instead of their dead colleague.

 

[nightowl1975]

I think the biggest issue that the plaintiffs will have in a civil suit is finding new expert witnesses. Neither Aperture nor Trooper Paul will get the job done for them. And I personally very much doubt that they will find a reputable engineering firm that will state that Karen hit him. The CW must have shopped this case around to a bunch of expert witnesses, and Burgess & Welcher were the best they could do.

The defense will still have ARCCA of course.

I can’t even imagine them finding a lawyer willing to take this to court for a wrongful death suit. How embarrassing for them if they do.

 

[mirage1]

Very little blood from that very serious head wound, too. Where was the blood?
No evidence on his body of a vehicle strike. None.
Among many, many other things.
The verdict was correct.

IMO.

No evidence of a vehicle hitting him other than serious blunt force trauma to his head? <modsnip>

it still does not explain the lack of blood, because he should have still bled in the snow if she dropped outside in the snow. So the lack of blood is a red herring.

In reality, the wound just did not bleed heavily in the cold night.

 

[missy1974]

No evidence of a vehicle hitting him other than serious blunt force trauma to his head? <modsnip>

it still does not explain the lack of blood, because he should have still bled in the snow if she dropped outside in the snow. So the lack of blood is a red herring.

In reality, the wound just did not bleed heavily in the cold night.

Do you know that the CW didn't say the car hit him in the head? Because even they knew that didn't happen, because it didn't.

 

[Vaderman]

Was it ever theorized why he was assaulted and murdered that night? Why was he murdered?

 

[justwannahelp]

I wonder if the OUI conviction helps their suit against CFM and the Waterfall?

It would be one thing is she was stumbling and obviously drunk when leaving the bar. But she wasn’t. This is not the fault of the bars. it’s such a shame they are seeking justice in all the wrong places

 

[Younger Sister]

I was encouraged to hear the verdict today. I wish I could rejoice in justice being served, but sadly I have never witnessed the amount of injustice that was served up daily during this trial. Karen Read was not responsible for John O’Keefe’s death. The responsible person(s) are still out there. Until the real truth comes out everyone should keep on sleuthing. JMO

 

[Kittybunny]

So the defenses theory of random people just beating him to death and leaving him to die, and a grand conspiracy to frame her, was taken seriously by the jury? What a joke. A terrible day for the justice system.

I don’t believe any of that happened and still would have had to vote guilty based on reasonable doubt. The prosecution in this trial did a good job of disproving most of the conspiracy and theories of outright murder in the house for me. Where they fell short was proving that a vehicle hit John O’ Keefe’s body - and based on his lack of injuries, I don’t see how they could have. I think if John had had a broken arm or at least bruising on his side consistent with a car hitting him at 24 miles an hour, I would have voted guilty, sloppy Investigation and all. But he didn’t.

It’s possible that some freak accident happened or Karen accelerated and scared John or maybe he was bent over puking and then stumbled around and hit his head on his own or whatever but that vehicle, at that speed, hit that man? The physics just don’t physics for me.

Also just for the record this is the first time in my time at Websleuths that I’ve not just completely tuned out 90 percent of the defense arguments. I was intrigued by the FBI investigating this case, don’t follow podcasts on either side but am almost always pro-Prosecution. I was disgusted by the circus and the shenanigans of the Delphi defense, and found the circus surrounding this case distasteful as well, but it’s a different case, different evidence. I was appalled that this case went to trial for a second time honestly.