NOT GUILTY MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #38 Retrial

[Wishbone]

This is probably an unpopular opinion but I hope they approved a paid leave.

She was in an untennable position through no fault of her own. In a pickle with absolutely no safety net. And because of her job.
She's only 26 and someone gave her terrible advice - they said retract your statementto the fbi and use "false memory".
IME she should have talked to a lawyer/even a therapist. Anybody with experience in those "conflicts" and who holds what you tell them confidential and can offer experience based guidance. Anybody unrelated to LE and unrelated to her.
So she lies to the FBI - and they know it - and then her performance on the stand - and all that anger at her situation boils over on national television during testimony in a despicable unbelievable display. It was a pretty big tantrum.
She was and continues to be eviserated on social media - at that age social media is your life blood and now its her curse. Many have written BPD to take away her gun etc etc.

LE needs to do right by her - I am not sure what that looks like..
Even if she was one of the Defense's star witnesses
JMO




JMO

Her rude snarky disrespectful attitude and also the additional lie she told about the defense threatening her did not serve her well. And she appears to be in the wrong line of work. She doesn't seem to be strong enough or cut out to be a cop. Have to add that I just don't like her and can't find it in me to excuse her helping to frame KR. She needs to find another job. JMOO

 

[waldojabba]

Her rude snarky disrespectful attitude and also the additional lie she told about the defense threatening her did not serve her well. And she appears to be in the wrong line of work. She doesn't seem to be strong enough or cut out to be a cop. Have to add that I just don't like her and can't find it in me to excuse her helping to frame KR. She needs to find another job. JMOO

Oh no question about anything you have written.
When I say that LE needs to do right by her - by no means do I mean they keep her - they cannot.

But whether it's reaching in to their slush fund/miscellaneous and getting her a scholarship to be retrained in something else - I don't know what it looks like - calling in favors and putting her with a large corporation etc. Something

She's a kid of 26 - who made poor decision under the stress of " damned if I do damned if I don't " -
They need to help her through this
JMO

 

[Wishbone]

Oh no question about anything you have written.
When I say that LE needs to do right by her - by no means do I mean they keep her - they cannot.

But whether it's reaching in to their slush fund/miscellaneous and getting her a scholarship to be retrained in something else - I don't know what it looks like - calling in favors and putting her with a large corporation etc. Something

She's a kid of 26 - who made poor decision under the stress of " damned if I do damned if I don't " -
They need to help her through this
JMO

What is needed, is a bulldozer to clean out all the corruption from the top to the bottom. JMOO

 

[waldojabba]

What is needed, is a bulldozer to clean out all the corruption from the top to the bottom. JMOO

Yes
Obvi that's the bigger topic -
Corruption on full display
I don't think it's atypical though of many large metro areas throughout the country
These fools were just stupid enough to air it out on national tv - not once but twice
jmo

 

[Izzylizzy]

This is probably an unpopular opinion but I hope they approved a paid leave.

She was in an untennable position through no fault of her own. In a pickle with absolutely no safety net. And because of her job.
She's only 26 and someone gave her terrible advice - they said retract your statement to the fbi and use "false memory".
IME she should have talked to a lawyer/even a therapist. Anybody with experience in those "conflicts" and who holds what you tell them confidential and can offer experience based guidance. Anybody unrelated to LE and unrelated to her.
So she lies to the FBI - and they know it - and then her performance on the stand - and all that anger at her situation boils over on national television during testimony in a despicable unbelievable display. It was a pretty big tantrum.
She was and continues to be eviserated on social media - at that age social media is your life blood and now its her curse. Many have written BPD to take away her gun etc etc.

LE needs to do right by her - I am not sure what that looks like..
Even if she was one of the Defense's star witnesses
JMO




JMO

Didn't Devers tell AJ she was represented by a lawyer?
I don't know if one was provided by the Boston Police Union.
I'll look through her testimony.

Since she changed her story after meeting with Police Commissioner Cox I gather that she's on paid leave and wouldn't be surprised if she's in negotiations for a settlement and then will try and go quietly into the night.

As long as she's off the street and not carrying a firearm I don't care if she's paid or not.
IMO:

 

[Izzylizzy]

This is probably an unpopular opinion but I hope they approved a paid leave.

She was in an untennable position through no fault of her own. In a pickle with absolutely no safety net. And because of her job.
She's only 26 and someone gave her terrible advice - they said retract your statement to the fbi and use "false memory".
IME she should have talked to a lawyer/even a therapist. Anybody with experience in those "conflicts" and who holds what you tell them confidential and can offer experience based guidance. Anybody unrelated to LE and unrelated to her.
So she lies to the FBI - and they know it - and then her performance on the stand - and all that anger at her situation boils over on national television during testimony in a despicable unbelievable display. It was a pretty big tantrum.
She was and continues to be eviserated on social media - at that age social media is your life blood and now its her curse. Many have written BPD to take away her gun etc etc.

LE needs to do right by her - I am not sure what that looks like..
Even if she was one of the Defense's star witnesses
JMO




JMO

BBM
@ 21:25 Devers said she can't make that statement because she was advised it would be a lie.
I find it hard to believe she didn't have a lawyer, she spewed a memorized reply again and again that she would be lying...then came her "false memory" ruse.
imo

 

[Forest_Wood]

He did not. The statement about this is in the news article above most likely. Channel5 online in Boston has the complete statement if this does not. I haven't read the one above.

None of those articles or news I've seen mention if it was voluntary on his part to leave though. They say he was transferred or assigned. I work in a similar environment and I will say that it's not easy to get an administrative position just like that and they are never just handed out to someone like that. Typically, because of the union, one must apply for a job posting and compete internally for any available position. I wonder if he just wanted out of that department, and maybe even wanted out of Canton, given everything that occurred since Trial 1. How does a supervisor remain respected by those he must supervise after what was revealed in Trial 1 and again in Trial 2. Also, he would have lost confidence in his employer since he was obviously pro-Proctor and stood up for his performance. Another reason he would have wanted out. Nowhere did I see it say he was pushed out of his role, at least what I've seen so far.
MOO

 

[Forest_Wood]

This is probably an unpopular opinion but I hope they approved a paid leave.

She was in an untennable position through no fault of her own. In a pickle with absolutely no safety net. And because of her job.
She's only 26 and someone gave her terrible advice - they said retract your statement to the fbi and use "false memory".
IME she should have talked to a lawyer/even a therapist. Anybody with experience in those "conflicts" and who holds what you tell them confidential and can offer experience based guidance. Anybody unrelated to LE and unrelated to her.
So she lies to the FBI - and they know it - and then her performance on the stand - and all that anger at her situation boils over on national television during testimony in a despicable unbelievable display. It was a pretty big tantrum.
She was and continues to be eviserated on social media - at that age social media is your life blood and now its her curse. Many have written BPD to take away her gun etc etc.

LE needs to do right by her - I am not sure what that looks like..
Even if she was one of the Defense's star witnesses
JMO




JMO

We don't know what actually occurred though.
I suspect she is on sick leave, but I don't think they can say that due to privacy concerns. I would imagine she's been very stressed out for quite some time over being forced to testify when she would have preferred to hide behind her false memory spiel.
I believe Devers has had coaching from many professionals over this.
They also have an employee assistance program to tap into for therapy / counselling, as well as union lawyers and union representatives to protect the employee's rights, and so on.
I think Devers was very well prepared for her disgusting non-testimony.
I'm sure she is being paid to have time off work, and I'm certain she's the type who will milk the system for everything she can get. She just presents as a spoiled brat who has familial connections in LE IMO. I've seen a lot of that. Maybe her father is a cop for instance, or her mother even, and she's following the family line of work, a union job for life. She had not a care in the world while sitting on the stand acting like a juvenile who happens to carry a loaded gun. Very scary to imagine.
The sooner she gets out of the police service, the better it will be for humanity! The sooner the taxpayer no longer pays for someone that like to serve them, the better we can sleep at night.
MOO

 

[Luna20]

Bukhenik - reassigned rehomed

Also seeing that Dever is on a leave of absence. Hoping that gets confirmed today as well.

Of course, like Proctor.. they waited until the end of the trial, which is just shady when looking from the outside in.

For anyone that thinks that this investigation was 'good' or 'okay' in any way... how can you reconcile that with all the officers that have been demoted, fired, rehomed?

Crazy to see, never followed a case where this has happened before!

Where is it reported that Dever is on leave of absence?

 

[MerlinFalcon]

Where is it reported that Dever is on leave of absence?

TikTok and Facebook. Karen wrote it on a Facebook page and Melanie Little talked about it today. Bederow is on with Nurse Kim tonight and they also talked about it.

 

[Derph]

Where is it reported that Dever is on leave of absence?

Karen Read herself on her Facebook page as well as other places.

 

[TIGER0822]

Considering the coroner couldn’t even rule his death a homicide, it should never have been brought to trial. None of the rest even matters honestly. MOO

And there was no collusion. A lot of collusion - but no collusion. And reasonable doubt piled high on a golden platter.

 

[TIGER0822]

Karen Read needs to become a private citizen again! JMO.

 

[missy1974]

Where is it reported that Dever is on leave of absence?

This is where I saw it this morning...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1942227602795528276

 

[TIGER0822]

One of the crazier aspects of this trial (part 1 and 2] was how few cares the CW seemed to have over their corruption and incompetence being on full display for the world. Why put your team of assorted thugs and liars in the spotlight AGAIN? So I’m glad to see that someone somewhere now seems to at least care to keep up appearances. Jmo

My guess that this is all for show. These guys will still earn their same salary, and likely have cushy jobs. No real change.

 

[Seattle1]

Where is it reported that Dever is on leave of absence?

NBC10/Boston is reporting Dever is on leave due to a family medical issue.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1942390759774113812

 

[DustysMom]

How do we know Buchenick didn’t request a transfer though? And if Dever is on sick leave for “stress”, the taxpayer still pays her for time off. MOO

 

[MerlinFalcon]

Karen Read needs to become a private citizen again! JMO.

She should do whatever she feels is best for her. If that’s being a quiet private citizen that’s fine. I don’t think she will go that route. Once the dust settles I expect she will start suing everyone and giving interviews.

 

[Izzylizzy]

NBC10/Boston is reporting Dever is on leave due to a family medical issue.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1942390759774113812

And with a straight face the reporter says about Officer Dever's family medical leave.

"No need to think it's connected to the KR case"

 

[waldojabba]

We don't know what actually occurred though.
I suspect she is on sick leave, but I don't think they can say that due to privacy concerns. I would imagine she's been very stressed out for quite some time over being forced to testify when she would have preferred to hide behind her false memory spiel.
I believe Devers has had coaching from many professionals over this.
They also have an employee assistance program to tap into for therapy / counselling, as well as union lawyers and union representatives to protect the employee's rights, and so on.
I think Devers was very well prepared for her disgusting non-testimony.
I'm sure she is being paid to have time off work, and I'm certain she's the type who will milk the system for everything she can get. She just presents as a spoiled brat who has familial connections in LE IMO. I've seen a lot of that. Maybe her father is a cop for instance, or her mother even, and she's following the family line of work, a union job for life. She had not a care in the world while sitting on the stand acting like a juvenile who happens to carry a loaded gun. Very scary to imagine.
The sooner she gets out of the police service, the better it will be for humanity! The sooner the taxpayer no longer pays for someone that like to serve them, the better we can sleep at night.
MOO

BBM from above

I would imagine she's been very stressed out for quite some time over being forced to testify when she would have preferred to hide behind her false memory spiel.
I believe Devers has had coaching from many professionals over this.
They also have an employee assistance program to tap into for therapy / counselling, as well as union lawyers and union representatives to protect the employee's rights, and so on.

I think Devers was very well prepared for her disgusting non-testimony.

They threw her to the wolves

They gave her the" false memory testimony spiel" bs storyline that she fed to the fbi first. You think she made that up herself ? Of course not, it comes from the union lawyers "protecting her" giving her that ridiculous narrative.
Anyone interacting wth her had to know how she presented personally. She reeks of attitude and is a terrible liar. Her union coaches/lawyers helping her could not see that ?
All they had to do was a mock testimony exercise with her to see what a train wreck it was going to be on the stand.
They coached her to get up on the stand and lie and punch back. And you saw the result and yet she was so well prepared ?
Were her coaches just stupid?

As soon as she was interviewed by the fbi and she told the truth( that's the 'mistake" this all flows from) - and Karen did not plea out, and she got called to the stand, her days on the force were numbered.

She was not seasoned enough in life to know how to protect herself. She trusted the union coaches, the commissioner etc. and look where that got her.

She tried to protect the shield as she was advised by her union coaches and lawyers and she ruined her life as she knew it.

A savier person would have gotten non union advice before meeting with the fbi - maybe brought a private lawyer along, would have taped all her conversations concerning the topic or written notes to file- told others of the conversatons at the time - even her meeting with the commissioner - and protected herself. ( yes MA is a two party consent state but tapes are still effective IME). Many ways to play that out.

She needed to be clear she was screwed either way so she could make her choices accordingly. And you can bet she was not getting that from anyone in her circle.

She was being told no worries your job will be safe( imo so totally not true) - use the false memory, lie and punch back.

She got on the stand and proceeded to answer the way they coached her - and came across as a disaster/unstable/you name it. No surprise to the commish, problem now solved for LE - on national tv you can see she is a liability -who can believe her - Game Over.

They threw her to the wolves

Besides the above - I agree - she's definetly not likeable and was in the wrong profession.

Added bonus ......a sterling witness for the prosection.

JMO