MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #6

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That is what is great about a trial
-- the state and defense present their cases
-- everyone has the right to their own opinion/views.
-- The jurors provide a civic duty and one I do not envy. Their service is much appreciated.
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So pieces of tail light seem to get larger the later they are found than those found earlier in the process? Wow, nothing suspicious there.
 
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Morning break. At this time, if I was on the jury I would be screaming inside " WHERE is Michael Proctor ?" They know he is lead Detective on the case by now. They know he was the procurer of the evidence. Where is his testimony? The longer Lally delays his appearance, the more suspicious they will be. Not a good look for the CW.
 
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By my count that evidence bag would have contained one (1) large piece red and one (1) small piece red - both of the lens cover. (Plus the black piece, likely ABS plastic or the like, from the light housing.)

That is two pieces of red lens. I hope there is a tally somewhere of all the pieces and collection times, locations, etc. (And perhaps an approximate measure should have been noted for each piece collected too, for example in cms, mms, or inches. To reduce or eliminate confusion or error, or doubt.) MOO
 
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However, I do expect to hear more about these pieces when the trial resumes, so I'll hold off on judging their impact until the testimony on this item (including cross) is complete.

So in some of the discussion yesterday, Vallier's statement about finding plastic embedded in John's clothing was called "damning evidence".

In cross today we learned that Vallier never saw the t-shirt, only the debris from the shirt. Also the evidence was delivered to the lab by Michael Proctor and not until March 14. She didn't know how the plastic was gathered from the shirt and under what conditions. We're not even sure if it came from the orange tee shirt or the grey sweatshirt.

So, I think it illustrates why it's important to wait for cross. Maybe after Proctor testifies (if he does) we'll find the evidence is in fact "damning", but based on what the lab tech said I wouldn't characterize it that way.
 
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Morning break. At this time, if I was on the jury I would be screaming inside " WHERE is Michael Proctor ?" They know he is lead Detective on the case by now. They know he was the procurer of the evidence. Where is his testimony? The longer Lally delays his appearance, the more suspicious they will be. Not a good look for the CW.
Typically in a trial, lead investigator is first witness called. But, then nothing is typical with the CW's case. moo
 
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Hos long before they ask forensic scientist to speak up? moo
 
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Hos long before they ask forensic scientist to speak up? moo

The technology to amplify human voices is over 100 years old. Why does no one in Norfolk County seem to be aware that it exists? Instead every witness has to be constantly exhorted to keep their voice up.
 
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