MA MA - Sandra Crispo, 54, Hanson, 7 August 2019 #2

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  • #81
It appears the grandkids filled a void in SC life.

The more you read, the more you wonder about.

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"Filled a void" is one possible interpretation. I hate to sound like I'm beating a dead horse, but I'll refer to the podcast one more time. In it, Sandra's daughter describes how they weren't all that close before grandkids came along. I'll let you ponder that like all of us who post here have.

I would certainly agree that the more you read, the more you wonder about. Certainly seems that this is a family that values their privacy and they've been thrust into a situation where they've had to dole out nuggets of info about their mother, her habits, their arrangements. IMO some reading between the lines is required.
 
  • #82
Snipped by me

"Filled a void" is one possible interpretation. I hate to sound like I'm beating a dead horse, but I'll refer to the podcast one more time. In it, Sandra's daughter describes how they weren't all that close before grandkids came along. I'll let you ponder that like all of us who post here have.

I would certainly agree that the more you read, the more you wonder about. Certainly seems that this is a family that values their privacy and they've been thrust into a situation where they've had to dole out nuggets of info about their mother, her habits, their arrangements. IMO some reading between the lines is required.
There wasn't
Snipped by me

"Filled a void" is one possible interpretation. I hate to sound like I'm beating a dead horse, but I'll refer to the podcast one more time. In it, Sandra's daughter describes how they weren't all that close before grandkids came along. I'll let you ponder that like all of us who post here have.

I would certainly agree that the more you read, the more you wonder about. Certainly seems that this is a family that values their privacy and they've been thrust into a situation where they've had to dole out nuggets of info about their mother, her habits, their arrangements. IMO some reading between the lines is required.
The interview I saw of daughter said nothing about they weren't that close. The grandchildren filling a void alluded to SC had no children at home, no husband, no job to go to and no obvious outside interests.
 
  • #83
It’s like she didn’t exist before her move.

No friends or family saying how much they miss their get togethers, lunch on Saturday, their monthly call just to catch up. Just her daughter giving a sparse amount of information, sounds like they were not close before the move. Why the sudden interest in moving close to her daughter? The grandchildren are not newborns.

No mention of places she liked to visit. A favorite grocery store, the library, a park - heck we don’t even know what brand of cigarettes, if she smoked inside, outside or on the roof.

No employment history.

No cell phone.

No internet.

Is her daughter protecting someone or something about Sandra?

It’s just very strange JMO
 
  • #84
You got it MimosaMornings, very strange indeed. No cell phone in this day and age ? A Trackphone with minutes for safety reasons is what ? A $40.00 investment. To make a call like "Hey, my car broke down, can you pick me up. "The police have no leads. Once they figure out motive (if they ever do) then the means and opportunity might fall into place.
 
  • #85
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There wasn't

The interview I saw of daughter said nothing about they weren't that close. The grandchildren filling a void alluded to SC had no children at home, no husband, no job to go to and no obvious outside interests.

I actually went back and re-listened and transcribed the podcast with the interview with her daughter. It's Missing Persons Episode 1, Sandra Crispo. The interviewer asks, tell us about your mom. (Note from me, there's a lot of things you could say about your mother...hobbies, personality, etc. Instead this was the answer):

Her family home in Quincy was too big so we re-located her. We wanted her to be closer to her grandchildren. She was the primary caregiver while I worked 11 hour shifts as a nurse.

The interviewer asked, was everybody happy with the move? Answer: Yes, she was the primary caregiver. It was convenient. It cut down on my (LM's) commute time. She (Sandra) didn't want to be in a big house anymore.

The interviewer asked, were you close with your mom? This is a direct quote:

"More recently...in the last three months, we were closer than we had ever been in our entire relationship." (Note from me: these 3 months coincide with the time Sandra was in Hanson.)

The daughter continued: "We went our separate ways. I put myself through school. When I had children, she started coming around more."

The above quotes are my reason for MOO that they were not that close prior to the three months before she went missing. I think she really loved her grandkids but what I don't think is that she was waiting expectantly and hopefully for years for grandkids to come along and fill a void in her life. I think after the grandkids came she may have come around to the idea that being the primary caregiver was fulfilling. I also think it was financially fulfilling. JMO
 
  • #86
From what I’ve read, I think it was married, divorced, took care of her dad, he passed away, house was too much, sold house and moved to Hanson
 
  • #87
From what I’ve read, I think it was married, divorced, took care of her dad, he passed away, house was too much, sold house and moved to Hanson

In a nutshell, yes, it seems so! I would note that what I believe was the family home in Quincy recently went back on the market, completely renovated and for a nice price tag!
 
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I actually went back and re-listened and transcribed the podcast with the interview with her daughter. It's Missing Persons Episode 1, Sandra Crispo. The interviewer asks, tell us about your mom. (Note from me, there's a lot of things you could say about your mother...hobbies, personality, etc. Instead this was the answer):

Her family home in Quincy was too big so we re-located her. We wanted her to be closer to her grandchildren. She was the primary caregiver while I worked 11 hour shifts as a nurse.

The interviewer asked, was everybody happy with the move? Answer: Yes, she was the primary caregiver. It was convenient. It cut down on my (LM's) commute time. She (Sandra) didn't want to be in a big house anymore.

The interviewer asked, were you close with your mom? This is a direct quote:

"More recently...in the last three months, we were closer than we had ever been in our entire relationship." (Note from me: these 3 months coincide with the time Sandra was in Hanson.)

The daughter continued: "We went our separate ways. I put myself through school. When I had children, she started coming around more."

The above quotes are my reason for MOO that they were not that close prior to the three months before she went missing. I think she really loved her grandkids but what I don't think is that she was waiting expectantly and hopefully for years for grandkids to come along and fill a void in her life. I think after the grandkids came she may have come around to the idea that being the primary caregiver was fulfilling. I also think it was financially fulfilling. JMO

“we re-homed her”
“We wanted her to be closer to her grandchildren”
“Primary caregiver”
“ cut down on commute”
“it was convenient”

None of that tells me it was Sandra’s idea to move. Sounds more like a business transaction.
JMO
 
  • #90
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I actually went back and re-listened and transcribed the podcast with the interview with her daughter. It's Missing Persons Episode 1, Sandra Crispo. The interviewer asks, tell us about your mom. (Note from me, there's a lot of things you could say about your mother...hobbies, personality, etc. Instead this was the answer):

Her family home in Quincy was too big so we re-located her. We wanted her to be closer to her grandchildren. She was the primary caregiver while I worked 11 hour shifts as a nurse.

The interviewer asked, was everybody happy with the move? Answer: Yes, she was the primary caregiver. It was convenient. It cut down on my (LM's) commute time. She (Sandra) didn't want to be in a big house anymore.

The interviewer asked, were you close with your mom? This is a direct quote:

"More recently...in the last three months, we were closer than we had ever been in our entire relationship." (Note from me: these 3 months coincide with the time Sandra was in Hanson.)

The daughter continued: "We went our separate ways. I put myself through school. When I had children, she started coming around more."

The above quotes are my reason for MOO that they were not that close prior to the three months before she went missing. I think she really loved her grandkids but what I don't think is that she was waiting expectantly and hopefully for years for grandkids to come along and fill a void in her life. I think after the grandkids came she may have come around to the idea that being the primary caregiver was fulfilling. I also think it was financially fulfilling. JMO
SC downsized from a larger home in Quincy to a two bedroom home in Hanson to be closer to her grandchildren and it made commute time much shorter for her daughter. Even with shorter commute time it doesn't seem like SC and daughter spent much time together. No mention of family dinner on Sundays, shopping trips etc. Even on that Thursday August 8th, the daughter and her sons went off to beach alone. SC even made a room for the grandsons in her new Hanson home; that says how important they had become to her. Oh I agree, SC wasn't waiting expectantly for grandchildren to come along and fill void, it just ended up that way. Thanks for taking the time to transcribe.
 
  • #91
Since Sandra no longer had her Dad to care for, maybe she was having a rough time dealing with Dads passing.
Moving to the smaller home closer to grandkids seemed like a chance to start over !
Dunno, but do know the loss of a parent is a life changing circumstance for sure MOO
 
  • #92
“we re-homed her”
“We wanted her to be closer to her grandchildren”
“Primary caregiver”
“ cut down on commute”
“it was convenient”

None of that tells me it was Sandra’s idea to move. Sounds more like a business transaction.
JMO
You always seem to hit the nail on the head MimosaMornings. You have a gift of condensing things to get your point across.
 
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  • #93
Since Sandra no longer had her Dad to care for, maybe she was having a rough time dealing with Dads passing.
Moving to the smaller home closer to grandkids seemed like a chance to start over !
Dunno, but do know the loss of a parent is a life changing circumstance for sure MOO

For sure it is. He had passed a year and a half prior to the sale of the family house and the move to Hanson.

I definitely think that "starting over" was part of the equation.
 
  • #94
I actually wanted to mention one other thing I heard in LM's interview. We knew that Sandra was supposed to watch the boys all day on Friday, as usual. LM mentioned that it had been pre-arranged that Sandra would also have the boys all of Friday night. Not sure that it changes anything, but just another small bit of info.
 
  • #95
With regard to the bed and a struggle in the house. I also wrote down what was said in the Missing Persons Episode about that.

According to LM, the house was "undisturbed." Shoes, purse, and last known clothing were missing. In the bedroom, the fitted sheet was "missing" from the bed. I don't know if this means that they know exactly which sheet it was and, like her clothes, it's definitely not in the house, or just that you'd expect a fitted sheet to be on the bed and for whatever reason there wasn't one. One corner of the mattress was "sagging," and "it looked like someone had tried to flip the mattress." She also described it as looking like someone had lifted one corner of the mattress and the slats underneath had shifted. The interviewer asked if there were any signs of a struggle or of self harm and LM answered "no."

There was a question here about when police searched the house. According to this interview, they searched the house prior to the neighborhood searches/canvassing. The original sweep was done by the Plymouth County BCI. They did not tell family any info about what they found or their conclusions. Approximately 53 days later, Laina wrote to the Plymouth County DA with her concerns. She stressed that disappearing was wholly out of character for her mother. This was the point at which lead investigative agency was reassigned to the Mass State Police and a new forensic search was done. MSP still work in conjunction with a detective from the town of Hanson police department.

The police conducted seven searches for Sandra. They utilized LE, civilian, foot and atv, drone and canine searches. All neighbors with surveillance cameras have given footage to police. Police took dogs into neighbors houses as part of their search. LM believes that these searches were thorough.

The family hired a private investigator early on. According to LM, this PI "cleared all the neighbors." One reason that the PI was hired was because people were sending anonymous letters to LM accusing a particular resident of Hanson who lived not far away. It's not discussed what brought this person onto the radar of so many people, but I think it's because they are on the sex offender registry. According to LM, this person was cleared.

LM has been hurt by the actions (or lack thereof) by the neighbors. They seemed distant or uncaring about the possibility that a robbery or abduction had occurred, according to her. She thinks that someone in the neighborhood must have seen something pertaining to the disappearance but the neighbors seem to resistant to the idea. At one point, a news station was filming a story about Sandra and neighbors called the police about the disruption on the street. Why aren't neighbors, some with young children, more concerned about the fact that someone who lived on the same quiet, dead end street vanished into thin air? It's just another part of the mystery.

Hope this clears up some questions that earlier articles did not address.
 
  • #96
With regard to the bed and a struggle in the house. I also wrote down what was said in the Missing Persons Episode about that.

According to LM, the house was "undisturbed." Shoes, purse, and last known clothing were missing. In the bedroom, the fitted sheet was "missing" from the bed. I don't know if this means that they know exactly which sheet it was and, like her clothes, it's definitely not in the house, or just that you'd expect a fitted sheet to be on the bed and for whatever reason there wasn't one. One corner of the mattress was "sagging," and "it looked like someone had tried to flip the mattress." She also described it as looking like someone had lifted one corner of the mattress and the slats underneath had shifted. The interviewer asked if there were any signs of a struggle or of self harm and LM answered "no."

There was a question here about when police searched the house. According to this interview, they searched the house prior to the neighborhood searches/canvassing. The original sweep was done by the Plymouth County BCI. They did not tell family any info about what they found or their conclusions. Approximately 53 days later, Laina wrote to the Plymouth County DA with her concerns. She stressed that disappearing was wholly out of character for her mother. This was the point at which lead investigative agency was reassigned to the Mass State Police and a new forensic search was done. MSP still work in conjunction with a detective from the town of Hanson police department.

The police conducted seven searches for Sandra. They utilized LE, civilian, foot and atv, drone and canine searches. All neighbors with surveillance cameras have given footage to police. Police took dogs into neighbors houses as part of their search. LM believes that these searches were thorough.

The family hired a private investigator early on. According to LM, this PI "cleared all the neighbors." One reason that the PI was hired was because people were sending anonymous letters to LM accusing a particular resident of Hanson who lived not far away. It's not discussed what brought this person onto the radar of so many people, but I think it's because they are on the sex offender registry. According to LM, this person was cleared.

LM has been hurt by the actions (or lack thereof) by the neighbors. They seemed distant or uncaring about the possibility that a robbery or abduction had occurred, according to her. She thinks that someone in the neighborhood must have seen something pertaining to the disappearance but the neighbors seem to resistant to the idea. At one point, a news station was filming a story about Sandra and neighbors called the police about the disruption on the street. Why aren't neighbors, some with young children, more concerned about the fact that someone who lived on the same quiet, dead end street vanished into thin air? It's just another part of the mystery.

Hope this clears up some questions that earlier articles did not address.
Thanks very much for the above interesting little bits of info. Mystery is expanding. Would love to know what detectives are leaning towards.
Where are you Sandra ? :(
 
  • #97
Daughter fears for mom who vanished from Hanson home – Boston Herald

“The next day, Laina called her mother several times on her landline — she doesn’t have a cell phone — but Sandra didn’t answer. “I instantly felt like something was wrong,” Laina said.”
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There was another article where Laina voiced her concerns to her husband later that night and he said not to worry she was probably at a neighbor’s house. I find that to be very odd statement based on how Sandra has been described.

It you felt something was wrong all the day, she was a homebody, her car was in the shop, she had only lived there three months, kept to herself and she did not answer her landline throughout the day or that evening - Where did she think her mother could be? Why couldn’t she have asked him to watch the boys while she went over to check on her mother? She lived close, right?

And did she try calling that morning?
 
  • #98
“we re-homed her”
“We wanted her to be closer to her grandchildren”
“Primary caregiver”
“ cut down on commute”
“it was convenient”

None of that tells me it was Sandra’s idea to move. Sounds more like a business transaction.
JMO
yes, it's a lot of we, we, we IMO. hmmmm
 
  • #99
This is horrid !! The more time goes by the more it's too strange .
Where is the missing bottom sheet from the bed ?
Where are you Sandra ??
 
  • #100
A lot of things mentioned in the podcast recaps and articles makes me uncomfortable. I wonder how happy Sandra was about her move. That's an awful lot of pretty big life changing issues in a fairly short amount of time, the loss of her father, selling her house, apparently establishing a stronger relationship with her daughter.

And not one of the neighbors in that tight group of houses saw a thing? Hmm.

I hope Sandra is okay and safe somewhere.

MOO
 
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