MA - Sara, 38, Madison, 8, James, 6, Michael Bermudez, 2, slain, W Brookfield, Mar'18 *Arrest*

[MassGuy]

Hey. I noticed you're from Mass and just joined the forum recently. Did this case bring you here?

Actually it was the Vanessa Marcotte case that brought me here originally. This one brought me back though.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Im thinking.

1) disgruntle neighbor

2) ex lover or stalker

3) or hitman

 

[DexterMorgan]

Having family check on the house during that time of day seems odd if you just spoke to your wife the night before.

So does anyone know the last time anyone spoke to her?

 

[MassGuy]

Im thinking.

1) disgruntle neighbor

2) ex lover or stalker

3) or hitman

I'm Going

1). Family Member (to include husband)
2). Neighbor (sexually motivated)
3). Murder-for-hire (Initiated by family member).

 

[MassGuy]

Having family check on the house during that time of day seems odd if you just spoke to your wife the night before.

So does anyone know the last time anyone spoke to her?

That's what's driving me nuts, we have nothing. The timeline is general and hasn't been clarified at all. I just want to know when the husband traveled to California.

 

[curious jane]

Goodness, those poor kids. I know dad is the logical culprit, statistic wise, but I am not seeing him as the perp this time. It seems to me that if his time line didn't jibe, or if there was another relationship, or hired killers, that some of this would be coming out by this point.

Guess I'd be interested in other family members who might be jealous. Maybe gang related. Would even want to know more about who ever's been killing those goats, did it lose it's excitement?

 

[Rocky1]

Thats odd. Wouldn't the CSI team have on gloves and bag it before removing the item from a field?

Not it sounds plausible since several people mentioned it on that page. But usually when finding evidence and shell casings on The First 48; Usually they just put markers down next to everything and then have the CSI guys take photos, bag it and tag it.

So I hope the cops aren't that slow to just pick up the can in a field and bring it to the road and throw it in the passenger seat of the cop car. Lol.

Lets hope.

I would think that the State police would have collected the can and not the WB police. According to the FB page, at the same time, the State Police were searching with lights on Cottage St. 1 1/2 miles away.
The can was found when it was getting dark, and we are getting heavy snow tomorrow, but as you say, you'd think that scene would have been processed for footprints etc. even if they already have them from the bloody crime scene in the house, just to make their case stronger.
Everything is speculation at this point.

 

[katydid23]

Having family check on the house during that time of day seems odd if you just spoke to your wife the night before.

So does anyone know the last time anyone spoke to her?

I don't think it is odd, really... [Hey Dex...]

My son travels for work sometimes. And he texts and calls his wife and daughter a lot. If she didn't answer him, when he knew she was supposed to be home with the kid, he would call his friends or neighbors to go check on them pretty quickly. There is no reason to expect that his wife would not answer repeated calls from her husband out of town. JMO

 

[debirlfan]

Correct me if I am wrong, but, I believe the husband was in California at the time of the murders. That leaves him out.

I am going to assume that police have checked on the father's whereabouts, and made sure that he actually was in California when he says he was? Conceivably one could even jump on a plane, fly from Cal to Mass, commit murder and fly back within well less than 24 hours. However, with today's identity screening at airports, I'm sure police could find evidence of that very quickly.

Could it be that the real reason they moved from California was because they were running from something/someone?

I've wondered about that.

 

[debirlfan]

I would think that the State police would have collected the can and not the WB police. According to the FB page, at the same time, the State Police were searching with lights on Cottage St. 1 1/2 miles away.
The can was found when it was getting dark, and we are getting heavy snow tomorrow, but as you say, you'd think that scene would have been processed for footprints etc. even if they already have them from the bloody crime scene in the house, just to make their case stronger.
Everything is speculation at this point.

I'm in CT and not certain of the weather there, but hasn't there already been a big storm since the murders? If so, and IF there actually was a can found and removed, perhaps police feel any evidence such as footprints would already have been washed away/contaminated?

Also possible it could have been something that looked similar (large laundry detergent jug?) that police knew was unrelated, but they removed it to prevent false/mistaken reports if someone else spotted it.

 

[DexterMorgan]

I don't think it is odd, really... [Hey Dex...]

My son travels for work sometimes. And he texts and calls his wife and daughter a lot. If she didn't answer him, when he knew she was supposed to be home with the kid, he would call his friends or neighbors to go check on them pretty quickly. There is no reason to expect that his wife would not answer repeated calls from her husband out of town. JMO

I almost didn't recognize you without the chihuahua in your Avatar. Lol.

Glad to see you are still rocking and rolling KD23

 

[DexterMorgan]

You take the gas can to get gas and not to throw it in the woods. Jmo.

So check gas stations cameras or something.

 

[Rocky1]

I'm in CT and not certain of the weather there, but hasn't there already been a big storm since the murders? If so, and IF there actually was a can found and removed, perhaps police feel any evidence such as footprints would already have been washed away/contaminated?

Also possible it could have been something that looked similar (large laundry detergent jug?) that police knew was unrelated, but they removed it to prevent false/mistaken reports if someone else spotted it.

Good point! We did have a heavy rain storm last week. (Friday, after the murders)
I see what you mean about the laundry detergent jug. Like say maybe an Arm and Hammer jug?
I believe on FB, they said that the WB cop came out of the field on Old Warren Rd, near the pizza shop.
That is 200 ft from the crime scene, and if you zoom in on the map below, you can see a blue BFI dumpster behind the pizza shop. Who knows, maybe the cop found it in there. Maybe not a laundry jug, but some other type.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/1...c47731b60eaa1142!8m2!3d42.23798!4d-72.1657953

 

[Elley Mae]

Article states murders probably occurred wednesday or thursday.

https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2018/03/06/west-brookfield-quadruple-homicide

 

[SuziQ]

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/co...a_says_dad_of_slain_west_brookfield_kids_very

The bodies of the mother and three children were found in an upstairs bedroom

 

[SuziQ]

Im thinking.

1) disgruntle neighbor

2) ex lover or stalker

3) or hitman

Or business related. Disgruntled employee or business partner. Did they recently fire anyone from the bouncy house business?

And just jumping off your post...was the goat guy ever caught?

 

[SuziQ]

Links to MJM Jumpers. The Facebook page is currently inaccessible.

https://www.yelp.com/biz/mjm-jumpers-west-brookfield

http://mjmjumpers.com

 

[debirlfan]

You take the gas can to get gas and not to throw it in the woods. Jmo.

So check gas stations cameras or something.

If the family had a generator that ran on diesel (possibly could have had a generator to power the bounce houses?) they might have had a full can of diesel in or near the garage. Starting fires might have been opportunity rather than part of the original plan if the killer/killers saw it sitting there, and they might have simply walked out with it in hand (or knew it had fingerprints on it and wanted to ditch it away from the crime scene.)

 

[Elley Mae]

Across the street, Andrew Perez works at Northeast Pizza and said the woman and children came in on Tuesday for dinner.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/lo...e_kids_found_dead_inside_west_brookfield_home

 

[Elley Mae]

Allow me to introduce you to MS-13.

Authorities were following several leads, including possible gang connections, sources confirmed to 5 Investigates Friday evening.

http://www.wcvb.com/article/mom-three-children-dead-in-massachusetts-home-identified/19068977


Wouldn’t be surprised.