Madeleine died 'after large sleeping pill overdose'

[txsvicki]

Could the sedation have been tylenol type medication for the two twins and ADD medication for Madeline? Since they are doctors and probably have access to samples, maybe they started giving Madeline a couple of different ADD medication at a younger age than is recommended, one that would help her sleep at night such as an antidepressant or an antipsychotic.

 

[CaliKid]

That's a possibility. They're not supposed to be used on children, but several do make you very sleepy.

 

[trixie]

im getting confused with all of the threads about her .. did they find the child? .im not meaning this in a rude way . im just confused is all

What a beautiful little baby you have, zadari! Congratulations!

 

[Ca-Sun]

Uhhh....no. I have 3 healthy kids, a successful career and I have NEVER "sedated" them. NOT EVEN ONCE, and that is without a doubt. And, IMO, anyone who sedates their children for the sole purpose of making child-rearing easier, shouldn't be a parent in the first place. I say give they should give the kids up to people who have the mind faculties to raise them well, because they aren't being raised well if Mommy and/or Daddy resort to drugging them up because they can't hang!

I agree with you, Eleven. I have 5 kids and I NEVER, EVER "sedated" any of them. I think it is just plain wrong.

 

[BethInAK]

I agree with you, Eleven. I have 5 kids and I NEVER, EVER "sedated" any of them. I think it is just plain wrong.

I can't tell you how many people have suggested I dose my little boy with benadryl when we are travelling via plane. Its SICK. If these were people without kids I'd totally get it - its something I might have said before I had my child, but this is like my mother in law (4 kids) and my boss (2 kids and a nurse) and a coworker (4 kids) - people who should know better.

 

[ThoughtFox]

I'm beginning to wonder how widespread this idea of "sedating" children is? The more I read, the more amazed I am. Healthy children aren't patients in a hospital, and there's no "book of parental rights" that allows parents to do that in order to have a quiet dinner. It's frightening to me that children are treated as such a botheration when they have just as much right to be cranky and awake as any adult. *shudder*

 

[BethInAK]

They might not be the best of parents for leaving their kids by themselves, in fact, they are crap parents for doing that- but at this stage the Mc's have not been proven to have killed their daughter, just been bad parents.

Thats right. Its not proven that they've killed madeleine. Its not been proven that they haven't either.

 

[twinkiesmom]

ADD medication consists of stimulants, not sedatives...They are given in the morning so as not not keep the kids up all night.

 

[hcc2007]

Actually science now backs up the cruelness of crying it out. Lots of research has been done and they now know the chemicals released when babies are stressed affect the way the brain develops and can cause problems for the rest of their life (mental health and stress related conditions). Thing is it's not obvious to parents as the consequences are not immediate.

Hi spacecowboy,

That research sounds VERY interesting! Can you point me/us to a couple of reports or give a good search string to find it on the web. I'd love to know more.

Thanks!

 

[Edwards20]

Due to a previous post by me, I felt compelled to post on this thread. I have been on the fence and daily sway from side to side .... emotions, evidence, leaks, etc. There is so much to consider here, and it's all nerve wracking. I want to believe they are innocent, because I don't want to think that someone could harm their child and then carry on like they did not.

One of the statements I made when questioning something was that I like to play the devil's advocate and provoke thought. After reading this thread, I can see how some might perceive that as "baiting", and I felt compelled to defend my statement.

I have been a member for a few years here, but don't post that often. I have been following the Teresa Parker case because it is very close to me and where I live. I have made many posts here on the Maddie forum. I have also followed the case of the mother and family killed in Powder Springs. It is very close to me as well.

It is my emotions and my detective instinct that draws me here to WS.

I have a 5 year old daughter, so this case really tugs at my heart. But, I also try to look at both sides.

With all that being said, I just want to make it clear that I am not being paid to be here (of course if I were, then I could certainly spend more time here).

I think this is an awesome thread, and I agree there are probably many "snakes" here, but I don't want you all to think that all fence sitters on this case are "snakes". I hope this makes sense, and that no one has any hard feelings towards me.

 

[SleuthMom]

Edward, I am a newbie here but for what I can tell nobody has an issue with those who are fence sitters The issue is only with those (REGARDLESS of their position) trying to tell people HOW they should post and WHAT they should not post or telling them they are too emotional involved, etc...basically, none of their business.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

I find it very disturbing that in the entire 6 pages of posts for this thread, it appears that not one person bothered to read past the third sentence of this tabloid article.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...ews.html?in_article_id=481642&in_page_id=1811

Well we don't know for a fact that "not one person bothered to read past" anything, do we? In fact, even if one had, that doesn't discount the other things that raise the hinky meter. We're just here to discuss, nothing more.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Okay?? :waitasec: , I find it strange that only the first 3 sentences have been discussed in an article of 56 sentences. LOL

Well I can't answer that for you. :waitasec: :waitasec:

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

I deleted my last post because I felt it was argumentative. I'm sorry.

 

[txsvicki]

ADD medication consists of stimulants, not sedatives...They are given in the morning so as not not keep the kids up all night.

Not exactly all the medications used for ADD though. Strattera is sometimes used and does make some kids somewhat sleepy. My grandsons used to complain about that. Also, some things such as Abilify are known and used for help with ADD along with the stimulant. It does cause sleepiness as well. My grandson takes his at night.

 

[Texana]

Not exactly all the medications used for ADD though. Strattera is sometimes used and does make some kids somewhat sleepy. My grandsons used to complain about that. Also, some things such as Abilify are known and used for help with ADD along with the stimulant. It does cause sleepiness as well. My grandson takes his at night.

Right, we are well into second and third generation meds with the ADD/ADHD drugs now.

 

[SleuthMom]

My eldest son was on Ritalin and Concerta (no longer). Is anyone suggesting that in the UK a 3 year old toddler is given these type of meds????

 

[packerdog]

I wonder how many doctors children age 3 have died of an overdose of medication administered by them. Both parents being doctors. Does anybody know? Have either doctor ever given a patient an overdose. I think not. Either the parent/parents did it on purpose, (murder) or they are lousy doctors. I don't believe they gave an overdose of medication.

 

[Texana]

My eldest son was on Ritalin and Concerta (no longer). Is anyone suggesting that in the UK a 3 year old toddler is given these type of meds????

Well, she was closer to 4, ibut it's not that common. I know of some younger children who diagnosed at preschool age with autism disorders, and were on meds very early. One grew out of needing the medicine in his teens but the other was more severely impacted and hasn't yet.

But you're right, it would be rare.

 

[SleuthMom]

Texana, yes. Some docs wanted to put my son on meds when he was 5 and we refused, as well as other doctor's opinions. Some docs thought he was too young. I really cannot see a doctor putting on meds a 3 year old unless the child is really a mental case beyond ADHD.