Madeleine McCann 3 year old missing in Portugal - Part 2

[MoonGoddess]

I am very interested to read all your views.

I personally feel the 'interview' was a PR stunt that has backfired. All it has done is raise further debate as to the childcare arrangements the McCanns chose that evening and their justification of the same. My feelings on this are - how can you compare domestic life to that of a holiday resort, how many homes have unknown tourists, unknown staff and the suchlike wandering around the "back garden"?

I was also querying why the McCanns bought in a team of lawyers so early on, this is the organisation they have hired:-

http://www.iflg.uk.com/

I personally think that there were discrepencies in their original reporting of the incident, but I think the discrepencies might be more to do with them trying to cover up the idiotic childcare arrangements they chose that evening
but maybe they weren't comfortable with the line of questioning by the police?

Madeleine was the eldest child in the party that were left on their own whilst the parents dined out. Nothing has been heard from the other families, I think they are lying low (under the guise that anything they say could prejudice the outcome of the case-Potugese Law?) personally I feel its probably more to do with they dont want to get slaughtered for their childcare provision. I am trying to find out if any of the other children were in ground floor apartments like Madeleine.

 

[Shazza]

If she was killed because one of them freaked when she wouldn't go to bed, you would think her body would have been discovered by now.

I would just like to know how they cleared those other 9 people at dinner and hanging with them all week, so quickly. Where are they, who are they and who are the people they know. One of them sees a child being carried that looks like Maddie and did nothing? Didn't shout, "Hey", or tell the parents RIGHT AWAY??

There is a lot of stuff that is being withheld from the public Im sure. In my opinion there is a cover up and again I will say too many things just dont add up.

 

[MoonGoddess]

If she was killed because one of them freaked when she wouldn't go to bed, you would think her body would have been discovered by now.

I would just like to know how they cleared those other 9 people at dinner and hanging with them all week, so quickly. Where are they, who are they and who are the people they know. One of them sees a child being carried that looks like Maddie and did nothing? Didn't shout, "Hey", or tell the parents RIGHT AWAY??

I have been wondering if anyone saw Madeleine after she was allegedly
put to bed?

 

[kazzbar]

I have been wondering if anyone saw Madeleine after she was allegedly
put to bed?

not to my knowledge.... I wonder if Maddie woke up and wandered out of the room and was taken by someone who initially just took her to help her but then decided that she needed a 'new' home....maybe this 'person' still has her but is to scared to come forward. Yeah, it sounds nuts but the whole case is crazy and makes no sense.IMO

 

[Shazza]

I have been wondering if anyone saw Madeleine after she was allegedly
put to bed?

There was a witness that said they saw her at a petrol station with a male, it was said further back in this thread, and she saw her face but instead of the pink PJ's she was wearing when she went to bed this girl sighted at the petrol station was wearing blue. Who do we believe.

 

[MoonGoddess]

P.S. I think this was a telling statement from the father when referring to Robert Murat:-

http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/article/0,,2085664,00.html

"We hope that everyone else treats any suspects the way we would hope to be treated and they are presumed innocent until someone is charged, arrested and convicted of any criminal offence," he said.

indicates to me that they know they are under suspicion - but more in the eyes of the public?

 

[Shazza]

P.S. I think this was a telling statement from the father when referring to Robert Murat:-

http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/article/0,,2085664,00.html

"We hope that everyone else treats any suspects the way we would hope to be treated and they are presumed innocent until someone is charged, arrested and convicted of any criminal offence," he said.

indicates to me that they know they are under suspicion - but more in the eyes of the public?

What a weird thing to say.This whole case is weird. imo.

 

[MoonGoddess]

not to my knowledge.... I wonder if Maddie woke up and wandered out of the room and was taken by someone who initially just took her to help her but then decided that she needed a 'new' home....maybe this 'person' still has her but is to scared to come forward. Yeah, it sounds nuts but the whole case is crazy and makes no sense.IMO

I'm actually wondering if she was ever in bed in the first place - IF there had been some kind of 'domestic' when they were getting the kids ready for bed, how long would that leave them to hide the evidence and claim they'd put her to bed? I think I'm getting a bit carried away, but these two appear to be hiding something which leaves it open to supposition.

 

[Shazza]

I'm actually wondering if she was ever in bed in the first place - IF there had been some kind of 'domestic' when they were getting the kids ready for bed, how long would that leave them to hide the evidence and claim they'd put her to bed? I think I'm getting a bit carried away, but these two appear to be hiding something which leaves it open to supposition.

I too also feel the parents are hiding something, have said it in earlier posts, but cant quite put my finger on anything definite as I also think we dont yet know all the true facts, you have to take what the media say with a grain of salt, some of the WS here have found out more than the officials investigating this case in Portugal, the maps that have shown the parents were more than a stone throw away from the children while they were out dining but the parents say were close enough to keep an eye on them which they also said were checked on every half hour. The restaurant staff say noone left the dining table at the times the parents said they checked their children, cant the officials investigating this case smell a rat or are the WS the only people that think there is something fishy going on.

 

[kazzbar]

I too also feel the parents are hiding something, have said it in earlier posts, but cant quite put my finger on anything definite as I also think we dont yet know all the true facts, you have to take what the media say with a grain of salt, some of the WS here have found out more than the officials investigating this case in Portugal, the maps that have shown the parents were more than a stone throw away from the children while they were out dining but the parents say were close enough to keep an eye on them which they also said were checked on every half hour. The restaurant staff say noone left the dining table at the times the parents said they checked their children, cant the officials investigating this case smell a rat or are the WS the only people that think there is something fishy going on.

I wonder if they are really hiding anything or if it is that we are not getting the full story for some reason. Maybe the full story is being concealed because of LE and what they are telling them to say. Possibly everyone is treading on eggshells because LE believe Maddie is still alive and being held. I can understand caution when dealing with the scenario. t is damnd if you do and damned if you don't...

 

[MoonGoddess]

I too also feel the parents are hiding something, have said it in earlier posts, but cant quite put my finger on anything definite as I also think we dont yet know all the true facts, you have to take what the media say with a grain of salt, some of the WS here have found out more than the officials investigating this case in Portugal, the maps that have shown the parents were more than a stone throw away from the children while they were out dining but the parents say were close enough to keep an eye on them which they also said were checked on every half hour. The restaurant staff say noone left the dining table at the times the parents said they checked their children, cant the officials investigating this case smell a rat or are the WS the only people that think there is something fishy going on.

Another thing that is raising my suspicion - why stay in Portugal? If you are going to travel Europe - why not base yourself in Britain? The way they appear to be 'freeloading' off the back of this tradegy is the thing that discusts me......seems that Mark Warner are being generous according to the fathers 'blog' on the official site:-

http://www.findmadeleine.com/
Gerrys Blog
24 May 2007

Today Kate and I went to the Shrine at Fatima to pray for Madeleine´s safe return. It was another early start leaving at 6.30am. Mark Warner, who have looked after us so well, laid on a car and driver.........

no wonder they dont want to come back.

I would hope that the Portugese Police have checked the alibis of all concerned - including the parents and the party they were travelling with - has there been any links to that?

 

[Shazza]

I wonder if they are really hiding anything or if it is that we are not getting the full story for some reason. Maybe the full story is being concealed because of LE and what they are telling them to say. Possibly everyone is treading on eggshells because LE believe Maddie is still alive and being held. I can understand caution when dealing with the scenario. t is damnd if you do and damned if you don't...

I dont think we know everything either, but for what reason who knows. Maybe the public is being kept in the dark because too many people knowing could harm the chances of Madelaine being found safe and well.
But three weeks is a long time to be missing and hope fades the longer it takes. If we are being kept out of the loop to increase the safety of Madelaine then I hope the officials know what they are doing. But news is being kept from the public.

 

[kazzbar]

I dont think we know everything either, but for what reason who knows. Maybe the public is being kept in the dark because too many people knowing could harm the chances of Madelaine being found safe and well.
But three weeks is a long time to be missing and hope fades the longer it takes. If we are being kept out of the loop to increase the safety of Madelaine then I hope the officials know what they are doing. But news is being kept from the public.

I feel this is the case also. Possibly this is because authorities feel that Maddie is still alive and may even have a suspicion that there is a child peddling ring involved and who they are.

 

[Shazza]

I feel this is the case also. Possibly this is because authorities feel that Maddie is still alive and may even have a suspicion that there is a child peddling ring involved and who they are.

I just pray to god that Madelaine is alive and well, and the LE know what they are doing if they are doing anything at all.

 

[CarpeDiem]

I wonder if they are really hiding anything or if it is that we are not getting the full story for some reason. Maybe the full story is being concealed because of LE and what they are telling them to say. Possibly everyone is treading on eggshells because LE believe Maddie is still alive and being held. I can understand caution when dealing with the scenario. t is damnd if you do and damned if you don't...

But why would the parents give this lead to the public that the police wanted to keep under the radar for now? It hasn't helped, just muddied the waters further. :banghead:

 

[Shazza]

But why would the parents give this lead to the public that the police wanted to keep under the radar for now? It hasn't helped, just muddied the waters further. :banghead:

Its getting quite late here, so am pretty tired but I dont understand what you are saying.

 

[missacorah]

Wow. I was surprised to feel that lots of you think the McCanns know a lot more than they are letting on. At the start of this case I was suspicious of them to say the least , then that eased off when they questioned the other suspects. Now I, heading towards suspicion again - I hope Im wrong.

 

[englishleigh]

Wow. I was surprised to feel that lots of you think the McCanns know a lot more than they are letting on. At the start of this case I was suspicious of them to say the least , then that eased off when they questioned the other suspects. Now I, heading towards suspicion again - I hope Im wrong.

I'm with all of you who are suspicious of the parents...I have been from the very beginning....just afraid to say so. At the very least they were negligent beyond belief but I'm not so sure that they don't know exactly what happened.

 

[missacorah]

THE parents of missing Madeleine McCann said yesterday: “The guilt will never leave us.”

Gerry and Kate McCann, both 38, finally broke their silence over the pain of their four-year-old girl being abducted in Portugal three weeks ago.
Last night it emerged that the couple had forced cops to reveal details of a new suspect seen carrying a child on the night Maddie vanished.
They threatened legal action unless Portuguese chiefs told the public they are hunting the mystery man.
Cops, who had a detailed description two days after the kidnap in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz, finally confirmed the information yesterday.
A woman saw the suspect at 9.30pm. She said she knew the bundle being carried was a sleeping child because tiny feet were sticking out from a blanket.
Chief Insp Olegario da Sousa said the man was 35 to 40, medium build and 5ft 10in. He wore a dark jacket, light beige trousers and dark shoes.
Portuguese police had refused to describe suspects, claiming the legal system made the release of information impossible with a probe in progress.
They called a Press conference soon after doctors Gerry and Kate, from Rothley, Leics, spoke of Maddie’s kidnap on Sky News.
Gerry said: “The guilt we feel having not been there at that moment will never leave us.”

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007240311,00.html

 

[MoonGoddess]

Gerry McCann to make another statement in 15min - 15:30GMT