Madeleine McCann 3 year old missing in Portugal - Part 4

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In the US when a crime is commited I think the norm is to clear the area, seal it off with tape and the CSI comes in. I read that the LE mentions possible destroyed evidence in the apartment that the McCann's were staying in when they first found Madeleine gone.
So did the LE allow them to stay on in those same apartments from the get go to this point? Was the area or apartment, never sealed off? If so how could the LE do a through forensic search with them living there? That doesn't make sense to me. I am suprised the LE did not move them to another apartment. Or did they and I missed that?
 
I might be late to the party, but did you guys see this news?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,283813,00.html

englishleigh - this is great news. :woohoo:

31 children rescused!!!! 31 loved ones back to the people who love them, and miss them!!!

I wonder if we will ever learn enough about those rescued to take them off Charlie's list or the doenetwork. Even if we don't, may those children get all the love and the counseling they will need to be able to move onward and upward.

And as we are in mixed company, I won't even begin to tell you what I think should happen to the guilty ones, except that I sincerely hope they go to prison for the remainder of their lives and maybe get some of what they dished out!:furious:

Salem
 
In the US when a crime is commited I think the norm is to clear the area, seal it off with tape and the CSI comes in. I read that the LE mentions possible destroyed evidence in the apartment that the McCann's were staying in when they first found Madeleine gone.
So did the LE allow them to stay on in those same apartments from the get go to this point? Was the area or apartment, never sealed off? If so how could the LE do a through forensic search with them living there? That doesn't make sense to me. I am suprised the LE did not move them to another apartment. Or did they and I missed that?

Good points Jdee - It's interesting that LE blame the parents when it appears that LE did not take the parents seriously to begin with and did not secure the area until several hours after Maddie was reported missing.

Imho, I think I would have done exactly what the McCanns did - looked everywhere and asked for help looking everywhere. The first LE should have done when they arrived is protected the "scene of the crime."

I think LE is misplacing the blame and it actually rests upon their own shoulders!

Salem
 
Another thought - maybe Maddie is one of the 31 children rescused?!? Maybe the McCanns met with all those political folks because of the ongoing investigation? Maybe Maddie is coming home, safe, if not sound?

Prayers for Maddie - maybe she come home soon!

Salem
 
Just my opinion:

After all, the main thing right now is to find out who did what to this missing little girl.

But if the parents were not really involved with the little girl's disappearance by hiring her kidnapper/s to take her or by killing her and stashing the body or by selling her to someone and then claiming kidnap . . . If none of those things were done by the parents then for purposes of this case I only care about information that might lead to finding the little girl.

I usually start from the parents and work outward if the facts permit.
I guess that in such cases I usually ask myself if the parents had any corroboration of their story.

For instance, who (other than the parents) saw this little girl was still alive that day when her parents went to dinner that day?

So do the parents have witnesses to back up their story? And can they pass a poly?

Another thought- (not sure I can explain it well):
When a little person is missing and no body is found that in itself says something to us about the possibilities of crime involved and the possible reasons for such a crime.


Anyway thats just my opinion on things.

Thanks for your opinions Docwho3. Some of the questions you are asking seem to be the ones hardest to get answers to. It does not appear that it has ever been published who the last person to see Maddie, besides her parents was. Very frustrating. All these different parents running from apartment to apartment listening for a restless child, and not one of them actually looked in the room. Or if one of them did, they are not saying who or what time. Is that to keep suspicion away from that person? Keep them from being talked about in the media? And then, given the contradictory reports from the staff, you have to ask.... were these parents even, at a very minimum, going door to door to see if any of the children were crying? A classic he said/she said with neither story coming out on top. Again, very frustrating.

Yes we do have a little information, although, as was said, not much. We know:

1. The children were left alone, on more than one occassion.
2. The apartment had a window directly alongside the parking lot.
3. The parent's lied about the jimmied window/door.
4. The apartment was left unlocked.
5. The parents downplayed the distance from the restuarant to the apt.
6. Maddie is missing.

What else do we know as fact versus speculation/rumor?

I'm not sure I agree that if someone had already hurt her we would know by now, because her body would have been found. Sometimes it takes several weeks/months and even years before the body is discovered. And if the lastest search is any indication of how Portugal conducts all its searches, I think it would be reasonable to believe we would never find Maddie.

Salem
 
Another thought - maybe Maddie is one of the 31 children rescused?!? Maybe the McCanns met with all those political folks because of the ongoing investigation? Maybe Maddie is coming home, safe, if not sound?

Prayers for Maddie - maybe she come home soon!

Salem

That would be wonderful but somehow I think we would have heard by now if she were. :(
 
But if the arrests didn't directly affect Madeleine, maybe they did indirectly. Maybe in all the scuttling to cover up the crime, someone will make a mistake that sends her home.
 
But if the arrests didn't directly affect Madeleine, maybe they did indirectly. Maybe in all the scuttling to cover up the crime, someone will make a mistake that sends her home.

That's what I am thinking/hoping...that UK LE will uncover links to a group that DOES have Madeleine!!!
 
you know I also would go tearing through the hotel room if my child turned up missing. It is a natural reaction (even though leaving her alone to me is un-natural). For the LE to critize this is annoying to say the least. What did they expect? For them to stand in the hallway and wait in freeze mode so as not to disturb forensic evidence? I think the LE is looking to take the heat off themselves for all their goofs in this case.
 
Just my opinion:

My first reaction is to say that I don't give a rats backside what sort of parents they were if in fact they were not involved in her disappearance in some purposeful way.

After all, the main thing right now is to find out who did what to this missing little girl.

But on second thought I realize that some might take that to mean that I do not care if the little girl was properly cared for and not abused. And I do care about such things.
But if the parents were not really involved with the little girl's disappearance by hiring her kidnapper/s to take her or by killing her and stashing the body or by selling her to someone and then claiming kidnap . . . If none of those things were done by the parents then for purposes of this case I only care about information that might lead to finding the little girl.

Well, to be honest, its quite possible that there is NO KIDNAPPER and that the child left on her own accord, and met an accidental death. Or is that not of interest to you?
 
I know this was mentioned before but in this article it mentions that Madeleine and it not being linked to her.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/06/18/uk.pedophile.ring.ap/index.html

Snippit: "It was unclear whether any of the rescued children had been reported missing, but authorities said the investigation was not linked to the widely publicized disappearance of Madeleine McCann, a 4-year-old British girl who vanished nearly two months ago in southern Portugal."
 
Well, to be honest, its quite possible that there is NO KIDNAPPER and that the child left on her own accord, and met an accidental death. Or is that not of interest to you?

I think this is also a possibility. What if she awoke to find her parents gone, got out of bed, then opened the door. She could have had an accident as easily as she cuold have met with someone who abducted her. The "scene" IMO isn't necessarily the room.
 
I would do the same thing- check every closet and under every bed, knock on doors of adjoining apartments and ask about my child. I think the problem was that all their friends came in to "help" and trampled possible evidence.
 
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2005320001-2007280253,00.html

I can't help feeling like this is part of "giving up".
I wonder where the McCanns are staying now? Anybody know?

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http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2005320001-2007280253,00.html

I can't help feeling like this is part of "giving up".
I wonder where the McCanns are staying now? Anybody know?

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Glad to hear about the children they rescued from the Pedo ring, at least there are some children safe and going home to their families. Pity Madelaine wasnt one of them or was she havent heard any news as to who these kids are and where they come from.

Dont know where the McCanns are at the moment, the last I heard they were going back to the UK, but dont know if they have.
 
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2005320001-2007280253,00.html

I can't help feeling like this is part of "giving up".
I wonder where the McCanns are staying now? Anybody know?

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Once the parents notified LE, they were moved to a different apartment within the resort. I think they're still staying there. But I heard that LE didn't even fingerprint their original place until days later.

Wow, they sold it? I thought it was owned by the resort, not privately.
 
Glad to hear about the children they rescued from the Pedo ring, at least there are some children safe and going home to their families. Pity Madelaine wasnt one of them or was she havent heard any news as to who these kids are and where they come from.

Dont know where the McCanns are at the moment, the last I heard they were going back to the UK, but dont know if they have.

I wonder if they aren't kidnapped children but children sold by their families into this terrible situation.
 
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