Madeleine McCann General Discussion Thread #27

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Where have they been "cleared"?
Portugal's attorney-general, Fernando Jose Pinto Monteiro, said the police had found no evidence linking the McCann&#8217;s&#8230;to Madeleine's abduction, and lifted all conditions imposed on them.<O:p</O:p
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/2440157/Madeleine-McCann-Kate-and-Gerry-McCann-officially-cleared-of-arguido-status.html<O:p></O:p>



The Portuguese attorney general in 2008 said McCann's parents weren't suspects:<O:p></O:p>
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/22/tony-bennett-guilty-madeleine-mccann-parents_n_2743276.html



b) The archiving of the Process concerning arguidos Gerald Patrick McCann and Kate Marie Healy, because there are no indications of the practice of any crime under the dispositions of article 277 number 1 of the Penal Process Code.<O:p></O:p>http://www.mccannfiles.com/id136.html#adi1<O:p></O:p>
 
It would be a very tiny body capable of being hid just about anywhere.


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Yes, but with basically the whole town looking for it? I don't think it would be that easy to hide, unless it was pre-planned and they already had a good hiding place somewhere. So sad :(

If the Smiths' sighting was really Gerry, that means he hid her somewhere close at first, within walking distance. Wouldn't the LE have checked every possible place around there?
 
She threw her child off a cliff in your opinion? Holy smokes.,

Sadly not long after a british couple went on holiday in Portugal i think, and the mum threw her daughter off a high balcony and then killed herself by throwing herself off a cliff into the sea. I believe thankfully the child suvived.

Strange things happen on holiday.

ALTHOUGH i hasten to add i am not necessarily believing the scenario i am on the fence ..... have been since 2007.:fence:

BUT WOMEN can do these things its caused through post natal depression usually untreated. Sadly.
 
Linda, the only thing regarding the questioning, is they could have been thinking that if they answered and then were arrested/subsequently possibly convicted because of those answers, then their two other kids would be without their parents. OR.......they are guilty, that's why they didn't want to answer. I fully, fully believe the LATTER, not the first. If they truly were innocent, then they would have no thinking or no fear of being possibly convicted.

What gets me about their interviews is.....they spend most of the time talkng about the media and how the media is printing false reports, and how the media is "intrusive" in their personal lives. Regarding Madeleine, they simply say "we are trying," "we are still looking," and other short phrases like that. But when asked about any leads they have, sometimes they act like they genuinely don't know (perhaps because there are none). They say in vague terms, like oh I think there was one in Spain, etc.. Then in another interview, they basically said they don't get excited about any leads because they usually don't end up anywhere. They said, they let the investigators do that and then they will tell us if it leads anywhere. But if it was your daughter, wouldn't you want to know??? No matter how benign??

I truly think they killed that child on purpose. If it was an accident, why can't they summon any emotion for the poor girl?? Ok, I'll even give them the cover-up, they panicked, they were afraid of going to jail, they were afraid their other two kids would be taken away....it doesn't make any sense but I'm even willing to give them all of that.....but what explains their lack of emotion afterwards???? There is no explanation for this!!!! It was an accident, they must miss her, right??? They must genuinely grieve and mourn her, right?? No explanation whatsover to explain that other than they wanted that child dead.

Trust me their motive for clamming up wasn't because they worried about the twins.., remember they continued to leave them in the day care in the days that followed the "abduction" .... It never even occurred to them the "abductor" could work there...or that they may be unsafe there.

Because they knew exactly what happened to Madeleine...IMO


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Sadly not long after a british couple went on holiday in Portugal i think, and the mum threw her daughter off a high balcony and then killed herself by throwing herself off a cliff into the sea.

Strange things happen on holiday.

ALTHOUGH i hasten to add i am not necessarily believing the scenario i am on the fence ..... have been since 2007.:fence:

BUT WOMEN can do these things its caused through post natal depression usually untreated. Sadly.

Thanks for your response! :seeya:
 
Yes, but with basically the whole town looking for it? I don't think it would be that easy to hide, unless it was pre-planned and they already had a good hiding place somewhere. So sad :(

If the Smiths' sighting was really Gerry, that means he hid her somewhere close at first, within walking distance. Wouldn't the LE have checked every possible place around there?

Like Caylee Anthony's body?

It's impossible to check every square inch. Sometimes Lady Luck shines bright on the guilty......it's another reason I'm an atheist!


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CAN we please put aside Amaral being a criminal, this has all be resolved in April.

The women Cipriano had LIED and it was proven by a judge she is now serving more time for this. ALL OFFICERS in the case were ABSOLVED.

I just find it really distracting as people have to keep asking who this women is and the thread is about Maddy no one else.

Like i said ALL officers were absolved....

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/04/leonor-cipriano-condemned-to-seven-more.html

p.s., THE FACT is this women is an evil witch who murdered her daughter and cut her body up and fed it to the pigs....eeeek
 
Sadly not long after a british couple went on holiday in Portugal i think, and the mum threw her daughter off a high balcony and then killed herself by throwing herself off a cliff into the sea. I believe thankfully the child suvived.

Strange things happen on holiday.

ALTHOUGH i hasten to add i am not necessarily believing the scenario i am on the fence ..... have been since 2007.:fence:

BUT WOMEN can do these things its caused through post natal depression usually untreated. Sadly.

True,.. And some are just too narcissistic, psychopathic or whatever and murder em. Sometimes it's in a fit of rage, drug induced revenge, delusions....

IMO there is never a good reason or motive to murder a child, or if accidental to hide the body.


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Yes, but with basically the whole town looking for it? I don't think it would be that easy to hide, unless it was pre-planned and they already had a good hiding place somewhere. So sad :(

If the Smiths' sighting was really Gerry, that means he hid her somewhere close at first, within walking distance. Wouldn't the LE have checked every possible place around there?

You said you don't think her body would be easy to hide. I disagree.
Look over the missing cases here at WS.
There are likely hundreds of cases where bodies were found months or years after someone disappeared.
 
Like Caylee Anthony's body?

It's impossible to check every square inch. Sometimes Lady Luck shines bright on the guilty......it's another reason I'm an atheist!


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Yes i agree and sometimes you just need to hide a body in play view.....

Its so easy to hide a childs body, they can get into all kinds of tiny spaces. So many have suffocated in accidents for doing so sadly.

They have a thing about hiding perhaps Maddy came out and decided to hide and punish her parents and it went awfully wrong, has anyone thought of that?

Its the kind of things 4 year olds do. I know at the time my grandson was her age, and believe me he knew how to wind my daughter up and was very clever for his age.

NOT saying this happened but could be a possible scenario.

ALSO everyone assumes she was taken out of the flat. The GNR dogs traced her scent to the supermarket they dont give a time stamp, perhaps she did wonder off looking for mummy and daddy and it was there someone took her who knows....anything is possible. Perhaps it was the person seen with a child at 10pm....who knows....

ALSO i know from experience that tired children get very fractious ....
 
CAN we please put aside Amaral being a criminal, this has all be resolved in April.

The women Cipriano had LIED and it was proven by a judge she is now serving more time for this. ALL OFFICERS in the case were ABSOLVED.

I just find it really distracting as people have to keep asking who this women is and the thread is about Maddy no one else.

Like i said ALL officers were absolved....

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/04/leonor-cipriano-condemned-to-seven-more.html

p.s., THE FACT is this women is an evil witch who murdered her daughter and cut her body up and fed it to the pigs....eeeek

You have the patience of a saint, thank you! And thank you for your informative links! I so appreciate them!


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KNOCK OFF THE SNARK IN HERE. Do not attack each other. Do not use the "IDI theory" sarcastically. This case does warrant an "intruder" theory and it is fair game for discussion.

Salem
 
Sadly I am forever cynical when a child goes missing in the UK. Nearly everytime we have parents sobbing, or children who are found dead or burnt in house fires, and nearly 98percent of the time its the parents.

Its a sick old world out there now. Anyone is capable of killing children sadly for the weirdest things.

I dont want to distract from maddy, but this is what families are capable of not 1 child BUT SIX.

The parents were on T.V. sobbing and blaming someone else.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...d-convicted-killing-children-house-Derby.html

Thats why i am on the fence....until proven otherwise....
 
Oh for Pete's sake, that is silly. If one thinks they know the parents are guilty why discuss it here?
There is no one way parents of missing children should act. I've followed cases where innocent parents were stoic, cried, shaked, you name it, that was not a foretelling sign of guilt.

i actually agree with you. All the ones in UK who did something with their children were the wailers, criers...or then there were the ones who just sat stunned and let someone else do the talking. I have seen it all now it breaks my heart that I have become so cynical because everytime i felt sorry for someone i found out they did it.....
 
KNOCK OFF THE SNARK IN HERE. Do not attack each other. Do not use the "IDI theory" sarcastically. This case does warrant an "intruder" theory and it is fair game for discussion.

Salem

I sincerely apologise if it was me, but the business with criminal/amaral is totally distracting from the maddy case.

Also can I ask what is IDI?

AND good morning from the UK, the mods do a great job.
 
Sadly I am forever cynical when a child goes missing in the UK. Nearly everytime we have parents sobbing, or children who are found dead or burnt in house fires, and nearly 98percent of the time its the parents.

Its a sick old world out there now. Anyone is capable of killing children sadly for the weirdest things.

I dont want to distract from maddy, but this is what families are capable of not 1 child BUT SIX.

The parents were on T.V. sobbing and blaming someone else.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...d-convicted-killing-children-house-Derby.html

Thats why i am on the fence....until proven otherwise....

Usually I go with the parents being guilty until proven innocent... Because that's the reality when a child goes missing. A few times I just knew a parent didn't do it.... And I turned out to be right.
There are two that I blamed a parent and it ended up it wasn't.

If I'm betting the odds... My money's on a parent every time!



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NO HE HIS NOT

SHE LIED LIED LIED LIED AND is now doing more time for doing so, all the officers have been ABSOLVED of any guilt incuding Amaral etc.....

PLEASE....its out there......she lied .......... proven GUILTY of doing so by a judge recently......


http://www.theguardian.com/uk/feedarticle/8521559

McCann detective guilty of perjury<O:p></O:p>

Press Association, Friday May 22 2009 <O:p></O:p>

The disgraced former Portuguese police chief who previously led the inquiry into Madeleine McCann's disappearance has been convicted of perjury in a separate case.<O:p></O:p>

Goncalo Amaral was given an 18-month suspended sentence by a court in Portugal.<O:p></O:p>

Clarence Mitchell, a spokesman for Madeleine's parents Kate and Gerry McCann, said the couple thought the conviction "speaks for itself" and they would be continuing their legal action for defamation against Amaral.<O:p></O:p>

Mr Mitchell said: "While Kate and Gerry McCann will not be commenting on the court's decision, they will be continuing their defamation action against Goncalo Amaral. Today's conviction speaks for itself."<O:p></O:p>

The McCanns are taking action over Amaral's "entirely unfounded and grossly defamatory claims" in the media about the case, which included the allegation that Madeleine was dead and that her parents were somehow involved in concealing her body.<O:p></O:p>

In the separate case, Amaral was one of five officers of the Policia Judiciara (PJ) in Portimao, Algarve, charged over an alleged attack on the mother of another missing girl.<O:p></O:p>

Do you have a link, aka documentation, that he was not convicted?
 
I sincerely apologise if it was me, but the business with criminal/amaral is totally distracting from the maddy case.

Also can I ask what is IDI?

AND good morning from the UK, the mods do a great job.

IDI = intruder did it


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http://www.theguardian.com/uk/feedarticle/8521559

McCann detective guilty of perjury<O:p></O:p>

Press Association, Friday May 22 2009 <O:p></O:p>

The disgraced former Portuguese police chief who previously led the inquiry into Madeleine McCann's disappearance has been convicted of perjury in a separate case.<O:p></O:p>

Goncalo Amaral was given an 18-month suspended sentence by a court in Portugal.<O:p></O:p>

Clarence Mitchell, a spokesman for Madeleine's parents Kate and Gerry McCann, said the couple thought the conviction "speaks for itself" and they would be continuing their legal action for defamation against Amaral.<O:p></O:p>

Mr Mitchell said: "While Kate and Gerry McCann will not be commenting on the court's decision, they will be continuing their defamation action against Goncalo Amaral. Today's conviction speaks for itself."<O:p></O:p>

The McCanns are taking action over Amaral's "entirely unfounded and grossly defamatory claims" in the media about the case, which included the allegation that Madeleine was dead and that her parents were somehow involved in concealing her body.<O:p></O:p>

In the separate case, Amaral was one of five officers of the Policia Judiciara (PJ) in Portimao, Algarve, charged over an alleged attack on the mother of another missing girl.<O:p></O:p>

Do you have a link, aka documentation, that he was not convicted?

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