Madeleine McCann General Discussion Thread #27

[Hexe]

The daily star link mentioning the alleged suspects name

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/348425/Madeleine-McCann-suspect-was-a-known-criminal

The maintenance man has a similar name, but not the same, as far as I can see.

 

[goldengirl57]

The top part of the PJs in the pic look pink to me? The bottoms look blue with pink flowers although in all fairness the shirt would have stood out more IMO.

Who do the PJs in the pic belong to? Sorry if that's old info but I don't know.

Yes they belong to the little girl dad creche etc, but how are we to believe he still had the same dirty Pyjamas SIX YEARS LATER to show scotland yard to take a photo?

IF the photo is from the files 2007 then it shows the PJ knew all along about this man and his child surely?

 

[CHERIE.T]

Those are not maddie's

My question should have been:
SINCE THEY AREN'T the right colors why were they even DISCUSSED?

 

[CHERIE.T]

Oh please don't feel like that! IMO it is better to question than to not question!

:hug:

THANKS Haden :seeya:

 

[Veidt]

Yes they belong to the little girl dad creche etc, but how are we to believe he still had the same dirty Pyjamas SIX YEARS LATER to show scotland yard to take a photo?

IF the photo is from the files 2007 then it shows the PJ knew all along about this man and his child surely?

I think what you said in bold may be correct. Or perhaps he just had the pyjamas in a box packed away now that they presumably don't fit his child anymore and handed them over. The fact that they're dirty may be due to being packed away or old or perhaps due to testing substances. The pic is kinda blurry.

my question should have been SINCE THEYARENT the right colors why were they even DISCUSSED?

The shirt looks pink to me so it could easily have been what the other little girl was wearing... picture an adult holding a child of that size. What would have stood out more, especially in the dark? The shirt, which is pink or looks like it in the pic. The pants are blue with a pink design, too. None of this indicates it's necessarily the 'wrong' color :waitasec:.

 

[goldengirl57]

My question should have been:
SINCE THEY AREN'T the right colors why were they even DISCUSSED?

SORRY if you read my post with the image we are to believe that SCOTLAND YARD found creche man and discounted the sighting by Tanner.

SY, which is now not in 2007.

I am asking how did this man still have the childs pyjamas after SIX YEARS TO SHOW SCOTLAND YARD to take a photo of them..NOW, not in 2007. They are even DIRTY.

So are we to assume this photo is from the police files, from 2007 if that is the case then the PJ would have known about creche man and have already discounted Tanners sighting.....

So crimewatch was all a load of cobblers really if that is the case.

 

[Veidt]

SORRY if you read my post with the image we are to believe that SCOTLAND YARD found creche man and discounted the sighting by Tanner.

SY, which is now not in 2007.

I am asking how did this man still have the childs pyjamas after SIX YEARS TO SHOW SCOTLAND YARD to take a photo of them..NOW, not in 2007. They are even DIRTY.

So are we to assume this photo is from the police files, from 2007 if that is the case then the PJ would have known about creche man and have already discounted Tanners sighting.....

So crimewatch was all a load of cobblers really if that is the case.

I just said this in my post but IMO it's possible he still had them to show SY, he could have them packed up in a box somewhere after they stopped fitting his child, not everyone throws away or donates old clothes immediately after they stop fitting... maybe he even had more than one child and wanted to use them as hand-me-downs. The may look dirty from testing substances or simply from gathering dust while stashed away somewhere and just from being old. JMO.

 

[goldengirl57]

I think what you said in bold may be correct. Or perhaps he just had the pyjamas in a box packed away now that they presumably don't fit his child anymore and handed them over. The fact that they're dirty may be due to being packed away or old or perhaps due to testing substances. The pic is kinda blurry.



The shirt looks pink to me so it could easily have been what the other little girl was wearing... picture an adult holding a child of that size. What would have stood out more, especially in the dark? The shirt, which is pink or looks like it in the pic. The pants are blue with a pink design, too. None of this indicates it's necessarily the 'wrong' color :waitasec:.

Its funny isnt it because the top looks PEACH to me. Peach with blue bottoms could even be a boys not a girls lol.

But without doubt BLUE BOTTOMS and they had a peach/orange trim on the bottom not FRILLY....

Nothing PINK about them well on the bottom anyway.

 

[Pisces Cloud]

SORRY if you read my post with the image we are to believe that SCOTLAND YARD found creche man and discounted the sighting by Tanner.

SY, which is now not in 2007.

I am asking how did this man still have the childs pyjamas after SIX YEARS TO SHOW SCOTLAND YARD to take a photo of them..NOW, not in 2007. They are even DIRTY.

So are we to assume this photo is from the police files, from 2007 if that is the case then the PJ would have known about creche man and have already discounted Tanners sighting.....

So crimewatch was all a load of cobblers really if that is the case.

Maybe, he had a gut instinct to save them because he knew he was wandering around with a child at the same time as the disappearance. Also, I'm going to assume that the police have checked records to prove that his daughter was in the creche at that time.

 

[Donjeta]

Yes they belong to the little girl dad creche etc, but how are we to believe he still had the same dirty Pyjamas SIX YEARS LATER to show scotland yard to take a photo?

IF the photo is from the files 2007 then it shows the PJ knew all along about this man and his child surely?

Well, if I thought that I was the main suspect in an international manhunt I would certainly hold on to any evidence that might some day speak for my innocence.

It's not just any old dirty pyjamas, it's evidence so he would have more reason to keep them.

 

[Jmoose]

Well frankly, I love people that are direct and cut to the chase and honest in their feelings and passion. I enjoy sarcasm and that tends to get me in trouble. Even if ya are wrong! J/k lol
I thought sarcasm was the socially acceptable way to express oneself instead of being super blunt and very rude. But apparently some folks can't handle it, or don't get it.


Some cases grab my attention too more than others.
I steer clear of cases where I feel I can't be objective. Heileigh Cummings for example. I have a soft spot for Misty...
Then there is the Ramsey case that's intrigued me for 15 years ....since day one. I can't let it go.

It's so frustrating to me when the justice system fails, or when law enforcement can't make an arrest. This case bothers me because I feel strongly that Madeleine deserved so much better. It's so wrong that she's gone and someone knows exactly what happened. Here we are six years later and in reality we are no closer to finding her.


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Lol-I got a time-out for that!

 

[Donjeta]

I put a link up about this but no one seems to have seen it so i will do it again.

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/10/maddie-case-pj-has-already-carried-out.html

This article is transcribed so we can understand it. The most important part is this:

A Judiciary Police team has not yet been constituted to work in the process since it was reopened by the Public Ministry, that is, the official PJ investigation to the Maddie case has not yet been resumed.

I believe this ex gruntled employee is the same one that someone sent an email to our Prince Charles about. If all they have on him is a ping off his phone in the location of PDL then for gods sake......he only lived 15 minutes from PDL. I live 15 minutes from my local town so shoot me.

Also i have read from a good source that the widow of this guy is totally freaking out and is now suing everyone who has defamed her husbands name.

...................................

I think it was reported that the ex-employee who Prince Charles heard about was a female.

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(I only found this quoted on blog sources.)

 

[Redgoblin]

Thinking about it I think TractorMan could be the guy if robbery was on his mind, and he accidentally killed her. It would explain the wardrobe scent, and the scent around the block.

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[Hexe]

Thinking about it I think TractorMan could be the guy if robbery was on his mind, and he accidentally killed her. It would explain the wardrobe scent, and the scent around the block.

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But why would he take her with him, instead of just running away?

 

[Linda7NJ]

SORRY if you read my post with the image we are to believe that SCOTLAND YARD found creche man and discounted the sighting by Tanner.

SY, which is now not in 2007.

I am asking how did this man still have the childs pyjamas after SIX YEARS TO SHOW SCOTLAND YARD to take a photo of them..NOW, not in 2007. They are even DIRTY.

So are we to assume this photo is from the police files, from 2007 if that is the case then the PJ would have known about creche man and have already discounted Tanners sighting.....

So crimewatch was all a load of cobblers really if that is the case.

I could ventures a guess. I have a friend with enough children to fill a shoe. born first ...girl, boy,boy, girl...she saved the unstained unworn out clothes and passed them down,


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[Linda7NJ]

Lol-I got a time-out for that!

Ditto me too


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[Redgoblin]

But why would he take her with him, instead of just running away?

If he disturbed her and it startled him being discovered he could of lashed out and killed her by accident, ala head hitting the floor.

He stores her body in the wardrobe, leaves temporarily to cool off and think what to do next and to double back on himself by walking back around the block carrying MM in a blanket, possibly to conceal head wounds and make it look to anyone else that she's just a sleepy child and exits via the side entrance.

It would help explain the various dog scents.



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[~n/t~]

If he disturbed her and it startled him being discovered he could of lashed out and killed her by accident, ala head hitting the floor.

He stores her body in the wardrobe, leaves temporarily to cool off and think what to do next and to double back on himself by walking back around the block carrying MM in a blanket, possibly to conceal head wounds and make it look to anyone else that she's just a sleepy child and exits via the side entrance.

It would help explain the various dog scents.



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It wouldn't explain the scents behind the sofa, Kate's clothes, McCanns car etc

It's believed the alleged abductor exited through the window.

 

[~n/t~]

But why would he take her with him, instead of just running away?

Exactly. Why would he bother and risk getting caught?

 

[~n/t~]

Also there was nothing taken from the home.