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by Felicia Cabrita
01 November 2013
The former companion of the man the PJ suspect of having abducted Maddie accuses the police of looking for a "scapegoat". And guarantees that the Cape Verdian, who died in 2009, was "incapable of touching a child".
The widow of the suspect in the death of Madeleine McCann which led the PJ to reopen the case has guaranteed to SOL that she will "hire a lawyer to defend the honour and memory of the father of her son".
"After having spoken of so many other people, it is disgusting that they are now getting a dead person to serve as a scapegoat" - deplores the wife, who does not want her name made known. The ex-companion of the suspect, 40, was surprised to be called by the PJ to be heard, in Lagos, in the context of the investigation, which has been reopened in the meantime. A woman inspector told her that they were investigating the man with whom she had lived until 2009, the year in which the current suspect died in a work accident with a tractor, in Bragança.
"Four years after his tragic death, they come and make it known that he is being investigated because there is a reference to him in the case files of the disappearance. He wasn't even working at the Ocean Club when this happened. They kept asking me question after question: 'When did he work there? When did he leave?...' But so much time had passed that I had to make an effort to be precise".
For this woman, it is a mystery as to why the PJ - 7 [sic: 6] years after Maddie's disappearance and 4 years after the death of her son's father - have turned the needles around: "It is very easy to make someone responsible when they aren't here to defend themselves. They can't, due to not having anything else, start looking at the weakest ones. He would never be capable of touching a child".
Police records only for pilfering
The past of the man, who died at 40, is the same as many others who, with the chaos in the ex-colonies after the 25th of April, abandoned his country. From Cape Verde, he came with his family to Portugal and settled in the north of the country. He jumped from job to job, from building work to restaurant work, until he settled in the Algarve, where he met a young student from the Liceu in Lagos and with whom he lived.
His drug abuse led him to commit some thefts and he was even jailed, but only for small crimes connected to drug use. In 1996, he was pardoned by Jorge Sampaio for the crime of theft in Portimão, which stopped him from being expelled from the country. His police record, where there is nothing about paedophilia, made him the perfect suspect for the PJ team in Porto who reanalysed the Madeleine McCann case.
He was never seen in the area of the apartments
His police record did not help him in getting jobs: he lived from small jobs hand to mouth. In 2006, it was with the help of the father of his companion, a building contractor, that the couple and their small child survived. In the summer of that year, the tourism in the Praia da Luz area was a promise and the man was able to obtain a job at the Millennium, one of the restaurants of the Ocean Club group, located about a kilometre from the apartments where Maddie's parents were staying.
However, according to various sources at the resort, Monteiro was never seen in that area, even when he worked there nor soon after, during the high season, when they asked him to leave. "He was caught taking 5 Euros from the till and we asked him to leave. We were surprised because he seemed a very correct person, looked good and spoke well. We did not even make a police complaint because it was such a small amount" a source from the hotel told SOL.
A colleague who worked with him at the Millennium adds: "One thing is stealing 5 Euros, another is murdering a child. And he always spent his time talking about his little boy, whom he adored. And I doubt that he ever went to the area of the apartments. Because he worked here so little time and also because he started at 4pm and left at midnight". And he remembers: "That it is funny that the PJ is saying that he could have abducted the girl for vengeance for being fired, when he accepted the fact humbly".
In his life, Monteiro never had any luck. In the Algarve, for those who work in restaurants, employment is seasonal and he never had a stable job. He is not known for any kind of explosion of bitterness which would have led to a retaliation - namely, in other resorts in Lagos where he worked after the Millennium, such as the Quinta da Boavista (2008) and the Quinta da Atalaia (2009).
Triangulation would permit the reconstruction of the route
In 2007, when Maddie disappeared, Monteiro worked with Sisaqua, company which treats water and residual waters, with their headquarters in Lisbon.
According to what has been in the news, the Porto PJ had been led to this ex-worker through the triangulation of the mobile signals which were activated on the night of 3 May 2007 in the area of the resort, and realised that the suspect was in the area the night Maddie disappeared.
But, according to police sources heard by SOL, in this way the case should be solved quickly, once the triangulation of the communications - which is done with the reading of 3 points (transmitter and call receiver and operator antenna), to identify the precise location of the suspicious mobile - which would permit the discovery of the direction and route taken, before, during and after the crime.
Initially, in 2007, that mobile, as with many others, was not associated with any one person. But the analysts of the PJ Porto are supposed to have identified the owner, and, possibly, because he had a criminal record, they searched and found that number on the mobile traffic list in the resort area.
This ex-employee has become a suspect, apparently because he had a police record and had no reason to be in the area. However, Monteiro lived 5 kms away (in a straight line) from Praia da Luz and always worked there. The PJ, however, believes that he abducted the child, 3 at the time, but have not yet discovered the motive: either to commit a sex crime or to take revenge on the Ocean Club, putting their security in question.
Police sources contacted by SOL have, however, pointed out that it is important to find other elements with would help to establish the suspicions about his presence in the area, namely the timeline of the mobile phone found in the area and comparison of police records with the evidence already gathered.
In the meantime, the ex-companion will file an injunction to keep the journalists from her residence: "If the police told me that the case was under judicial secrecy, how come the journalists are all at my door and bothering my family?", asks the wife, who up until now has remained silent. "With so many children who are abducted in Portugal, why do the police only care about the English girl?".
CASE REOPENED 5 YEARS LATER
New evidence leads the MP to reopen the investigation. The McCanns' spokeman will not comment on "speculation" about the new PJ suspect.
In July 2008, one year and two months after Madeleine's disappearance, the Public Prosecutor [Ministério Público] shelved the case for lack of evidence that the 3 arguidos - Robert Murat, a British man who lived in the Algarve and the parents of the child, suspected of hiding her body after an accident - had committed "any crime".
Five years later, the investigation has been reopened after a request by the PJ, who presented to the Public Prosecutor "new indicative elements which justify pursuing the investigation" - announced the Attorney General [Procuradoria-geral da República] on 24 October.
The PJ did not reveal their leads, but made it known that the McCanns were not suspects. The investigation is being carried out in Portimão and is led by a team of inspectors from Porto - who, on order from national headquarters, re-evaluated the investigation made at the time by their colleagues in Faro and the coordinator Gonçalo Amaral.
The reopening came about after, in the middle of October, Scotland Yard - which has been investigating for at least a year with an exclusive team - put out, on the BBC Crimewatch programme, two e-fits of a man (described as white, short brown hair, no beard, medium height, between 20 and 40) based on the description of two witnesses who said they saw him on the night of 3 May 2007, going down a street near the resort towards the beach at Praia da Luz, carrying a blond child in pyjamas in his arms.
"Although the man may or may not be the key to unblocking this investigation, it is vital for us to find and talk to him", stated Andy Redwood, admitting at the time that it was not the only line of inquiry: "There are more e-fits of other people seen in the area on the day of Madeleine's disappearance as well as the days prior to it":
At this time, it has been made known that a team of 6 PJ inspectors from Faro have been named about a month ago to carry out diligences which are part of a rogatory letter sent to the Public Prosecutor by the English.
Despite their collaboration, the PJ and SY are carrying out autonomous investigations. "We are not saying anything about the speculation made in the Portuguese press" answered Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns' spokesman, when asked by SOL about the new suspect of the PJ.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id232.html
by Felicia Cabrita
01 November 2013
The former companion of the man the PJ suspect of having abducted Maddie accuses the police of looking for a "scapegoat". And guarantees that the Cape Verdian, who died in 2009, was "incapable of touching a child".
The widow of the suspect in the death of Madeleine McCann which led the PJ to reopen the case has guaranteed to SOL that she will "hire a lawyer to defend the honour and memory of the father of her son".
"After having spoken of so many other people, it is disgusting that they are now getting a dead person to serve as a scapegoat" - deplores the wife, who does not want her name made known. The ex-companion of the suspect, 40, was surprised to be called by the PJ to be heard, in Lagos, in the context of the investigation, which has been reopened in the meantime. A woman inspector told her that they were investigating the man with whom she had lived until 2009, the year in which the current suspect died in a work accident with a tractor, in Bragança.
"Four years after his tragic death, they come and make it known that he is being investigated because there is a reference to him in the case files of the disappearance. He wasn't even working at the Ocean Club when this happened. They kept asking me question after question: 'When did he work there? When did he leave?...' But so much time had passed that I had to make an effort to be precise".
For this woman, it is a mystery as to why the PJ - 7 [sic: 6] years after Maddie's disappearance and 4 years after the death of her son's father - have turned the needles around: "It is very easy to make someone responsible when they aren't here to defend themselves. They can't, due to not having anything else, start looking at the weakest ones. He would never be capable of touching a child".
Police records only for pilfering
The past of the man, who died at 40, is the same as many others who, with the chaos in the ex-colonies after the 25th of April, abandoned his country. From Cape Verde, he came with his family to Portugal and settled in the north of the country. He jumped from job to job, from building work to restaurant work, until he settled in the Algarve, where he met a young student from the Liceu in Lagos and with whom he lived.
His drug abuse led him to commit some thefts and he was even jailed, but only for small crimes connected to drug use. In 1996, he was pardoned by Jorge Sampaio for the crime of theft in Portimão, which stopped him from being expelled from the country. His police record, where there is nothing about paedophilia, made him the perfect suspect for the PJ team in Porto who reanalysed the Madeleine McCann case.
He was never seen in the area of the apartments
His police record did not help him in getting jobs: he lived from small jobs hand to mouth. In 2006, it was with the help of the father of his companion, a building contractor, that the couple and their small child survived. In the summer of that year, the tourism in the Praia da Luz area was a promise and the man was able to obtain a job at the Millennium, one of the restaurants of the Ocean Club group, located about a kilometre from the apartments where Maddie's parents were staying.
However, according to various sources at the resort, Monteiro was never seen in that area, even when he worked there nor soon after, during the high season, when they asked him to leave. "He was caught taking 5 Euros from the till and we asked him to leave. We were surprised because he seemed a very correct person, looked good and spoke well. We did not even make a police complaint because it was such a small amount" a source from the hotel told SOL.
A colleague who worked with him at the Millennium adds: "One thing is stealing 5 Euros, another is murdering a child. And he always spent his time talking about his little boy, whom he adored. And I doubt that he ever went to the area of the apartments. Because he worked here so little time and also because he started at 4pm and left at midnight". And he remembers: "That it is funny that the PJ is saying that he could have abducted the girl for vengeance for being fired, when he accepted the fact humbly".
In his life, Monteiro never had any luck. In the Algarve, for those who work in restaurants, employment is seasonal and he never had a stable job. He is not known for any kind of explosion of bitterness which would have led to a retaliation - namely, in other resorts in Lagos where he worked after the Millennium, such as the Quinta da Boavista (2008) and the Quinta da Atalaia (2009).
Triangulation would permit the reconstruction of the route
In 2007, when Maddie disappeared, Monteiro worked with Sisaqua, company which treats water and residual waters, with their headquarters in Lisbon.
According to what has been in the news, the Porto PJ had been led to this ex-worker through the triangulation of the mobile signals which were activated on the night of 3 May 2007 in the area of the resort, and realised that the suspect was in the area the night Maddie disappeared.
But, according to police sources heard by SOL, in this way the case should be solved quickly, once the triangulation of the communications - which is done with the reading of 3 points (transmitter and call receiver and operator antenna), to identify the precise location of the suspicious mobile - which would permit the discovery of the direction and route taken, before, during and after the crime.
Initially, in 2007, that mobile, as with many others, was not associated with any one person. But the analysts of the PJ Porto are supposed to have identified the owner, and, possibly, because he had a criminal record, they searched and found that number on the mobile traffic list in the resort area.
This ex-employee has become a suspect, apparently because he had a police record and had no reason to be in the area. However, Monteiro lived 5 kms away (in a straight line) from Praia da Luz and always worked there. The PJ, however, believes that he abducted the child, 3 at the time, but have not yet discovered the motive: either to commit a sex crime or to take revenge on the Ocean Club, putting their security in question.
Police sources contacted by SOL have, however, pointed out that it is important to find other elements with would help to establish the suspicions about his presence in the area, namely the timeline of the mobile phone found in the area and comparison of police records with the evidence already gathered.
In the meantime, the ex-companion will file an injunction to keep the journalists from her residence: "If the police told me that the case was under judicial secrecy, how come the journalists are all at my door and bothering my family?", asks the wife, who up until now has remained silent. "With so many children who are abducted in Portugal, why do the police only care about the English girl?".
CASE REOPENED 5 YEARS LATER
New evidence leads the MP to reopen the investigation. The McCanns' spokeman will not comment on "speculation" about the new PJ suspect.
In July 2008, one year and two months after Madeleine's disappearance, the Public Prosecutor [Ministério Público] shelved the case for lack of evidence that the 3 arguidos - Robert Murat, a British man who lived in the Algarve and the parents of the child, suspected of hiding her body after an accident - had committed "any crime".
Five years later, the investigation has been reopened after a request by the PJ, who presented to the Public Prosecutor "new indicative elements which justify pursuing the investigation" - announced the Attorney General [Procuradoria-geral da República] on 24 October.
The PJ did not reveal their leads, but made it known that the McCanns were not suspects. The investigation is being carried out in Portimão and is led by a team of inspectors from Porto - who, on order from national headquarters, re-evaluated the investigation made at the time by their colleagues in Faro and the coordinator Gonçalo Amaral.
The reopening came about after, in the middle of October, Scotland Yard - which has been investigating for at least a year with an exclusive team - put out, on the BBC Crimewatch programme, two e-fits of a man (described as white, short brown hair, no beard, medium height, between 20 and 40) based on the description of two witnesses who said they saw him on the night of 3 May 2007, going down a street near the resort towards the beach at Praia da Luz, carrying a blond child in pyjamas in his arms.
"Although the man may or may not be the key to unblocking this investigation, it is vital for us to find and talk to him", stated Andy Redwood, admitting at the time that it was not the only line of inquiry: "There are more e-fits of other people seen in the area on the day of Madeleine's disappearance as well as the days prior to it":
At this time, it has been made known that a team of 6 PJ inspectors from Faro have been named about a month ago to carry out diligences which are part of a rogatory letter sent to the Public Prosecutor by the English.
Despite their collaboration, the PJ and SY are carrying out autonomous investigations. "We are not saying anything about the speculation made in the Portuguese press" answered Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns' spokesman, when asked by SOL about the new suspect of the PJ.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id232.html
As I recall, Crimewatch said the "crèche man" and his wife suspected from the start that it was he and his daughter that were seen in the Tanner sighting. That they kept those pyjamas all these years just in case. And they were right, handing in the pj's when asked. The other pair of pj's that many think are Madeleines were purchased after the kidnapping by the McCanns so they could show exactly what the pyjamas looked like.
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The only reason I can think of would be if he was afraid that he left his DNA on the body.
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I thought they were the little sister's.
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They found a body only scent in the wardrobe I believe (in regards to the house) and on a few items like Cuddle Cat. Behind the couch was blood and the body scent. Unless there is something else I do not know about that was picked up in the wardrobe, then please share.
If cross-contamination were that easy then they would've alerted to other apartments in my opinion, but they didn't. Especially since these are holiday apartments with lots of different people coming and going each and every day with all different kinds of jobs and from different parts of the world. It's strange how they only indicated in the apartment with the missing child and I don't believe that is a coincidence, especially since no one died in the apartment to date.
I have a lot of trust in the dogs findings because they are internationally renowned and mostly because dogs don't lie and people do, and I don't really trust the Tapas9 at all (besides Dianne Webster) . I absolutely believe there was a body in those areas and that body was Maddie.
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Were the dogs led into all the apartments of all the tapas 9 ?
I can see cross contamination occurring with any persons coming into direct contact with the crime scene, but not necessarily every person in the complex, or even the whole of the tapas 9. It would depend on who had direct contact with those areas.
They didn't alert to other apartments not because contamination is easy to detect but for the opposite reason and for the very reasons which I've just stated, your argument is moot considering you are trying to suggest I think it would be easy for contamination to occur, I never said that.
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Just read the latest Pat Brown blog and she appears to know it all with great certainty. Take this section:
Suppose for a moment that 3) was true, how on earth could a man and a woman BOTH be so evil to decide and agree on a cover up just after their daughter DIED? And then also BOTH act so normal and cheerful during the following dinner with their friends after their daughter DIED in an accident? Ah, you'd say, but they weren't cheerful at all, that is all a lie, and all the statements of T7 are concocted and synchronized when they collectively decided to help this poor mourning couple who had just lost their child. Yeah, right! This really is my biggest problem with the McCann's involvement. They either did it together, but then you can't act cheerfully and relaxed at the dinner table OR all of the T9 are covering up the terrible accident (without any motive to help, only incremental personal risk) and then the scenario immediately becomes unrealistically complex. So, it doesn't add up.
With a stretch I could conceive of a T9-involved scenario when it was only GM (when he checked the children) or only MO involved. But MO hardly had sufficient time to do anything in 5A, he didn't have a motive nor any easy place to temporarily hide a body. GM is different, he spent a bit more time checking in (also using the bathroom), but then where could he hide a body (for a while)? And why was also he perceived by JW as acting perfectly normal when he met him on street? Why was he also acting perfectly normal when he went back to the T9? And why were not his fingerprints but only Kate's found on the window? He didn't have access to gloves after his child had died, did he? It just doesn't add up for me and I believe there is not a single bit of hard data, other than some inconsistencies in the T9 statements (typical for any criminal case since memories are unreliable), in that evening's critical time-frame (so ignore the dogs later), that would indicate the McCann's involvement in a convincing manner.
Just to share a very crazy thought: a few years ago when I was tempted to dive into the boards about this case, but in the end didn't jump, my very first thought was that GM was not the father of MM, i.e. that he didn't contribute his piece to the IVF blending procedure but that it maybe was one of the T9, and that he had found that out, felt humiliated in his male hood and then flipped into some evil deed. However, after have read a lot now about this case, I really can't see any feasible scenario (contrary the abduction scenarios) that would involve him, KM or the T9.
It is beyond me how Pat Brown dares to make such firm an incriminating statements publicly on the web. Sounds like an easy next libel case to me...
Suppose for a moment that 3) was true, how on earth could a man and a woman BOTH be so evil to decide and agree on a cover up just after their daughter DIED? And then also BOTH act so normal and cheerful during the following dinner with their friends after their daughter DIED in an accident? Ah, you'd say, but they weren't cheerful at all, that is all a lie, and all the statements of T7 are concocted and synchronized when they collectively decided to help this poor mourning couple who had just lost their child. Yeah, right! This really is my biggest problem with the McCann's involvement. They either did it together, but then you can't act cheerfully and relaxed at the dinner table OR all of the T9 are covering up the terrible accident (without any motive to help, only incremental personal risk) and then the scenario immediately becomes unrealistically complex. So, it doesn't add up.
With a stretch I could conceive of a T9-involved scenario when it was only GM (when he checked the children) or only MO involved. But MO hardly had sufficient time to do anything in 5A, he didn't have a motive nor any easy place to temporarily hide a body. GM is different, he spent a bit more time checking in (also using the bathroom), but then where could he hide a body (for a while)? And why was also he perceived by JW as acting perfectly normal when he met him on street? Why was he also acting perfectly normal when he went back to the T9? And why were not his fingerprints but only Kate's found on the window? He didn't have access to gloves after his child had died, did he? It just doesn't add up for me and I believe there is not a single bit of hard data, other than some inconsistencies in the T9 statements (typical for any criminal case since memories are unreliable), in that evening's critical time-frame (so ignore the dogs later), that would indicate the McCann's involvement in a convincing manner.
Just to share a very crazy thought: a few years ago when I was tempted to dive into the boards about this case, but in the end didn't jump, my very first thought was that GM was not the father of MM, i.e. that he didn't contribute his piece to the IVF blending procedure but that it maybe was one of the T9, and that he had found that out, felt humiliated in his male hood and then flipped into some evil deed. However, after have read a lot now about this case, I really can't see any feasible scenario (contrary the abduction scenarios) that would involve him, KM or the T9.
It is beyond me how Pat Brown dares to make such firm an incriminating statements publicly on the web. Sounds like an easy next libel case to me...
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How many police men and investigators were running through specifically 5A in the days/month after that May 3rd? That simple fact puts the risk of cross-contamination and finding the smell of death in 5A up enormously and much less so in any other department. It is almost a self fulfilling finding. Policemen deal with dead bodies, detectives deal with dead bodies, doctors themselves deal with dead bodies, crime scene investigators deal with dead bodies. So, I am not surprised at all they found something only in 5A after 3 (!) months and nowhere else. For the dog findings to make any sense you need more contextual evidence or otherwise at least some sort of predictive and simple scenario that would explain these data and link the smell back to Maddie's body exclusively and I am afraid there isn't one.
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SBM.
Her DNA was tested against her parents and found to be consistent with the parentage.
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So, very true! That's why I like it here in this semi-open Websleuth monolithic discussion thread. I perceive all people here having clear opinions, but everybody seems open to discuss and consider alternatives :loveyou:
The adage is: Your mind is like a parachute, it works best when open.
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Thanks. Good that I completely abandoned that crazy scenario. :blushing:
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JMO I don't think that cross contamination from previous dead bodies is a very likely explanation. If it happened often they would have cadaver dogs hitting pretty much everywhere that policemen and doctors have ever been.
If it was a false alert I would guess a nosebleed or something of the sort.
Crime scene investigators should wear protective gear when dealing with dead bodies and I don't think they're supposed to use the same gloves etc. when going to another crime scene. Doctors should know about hygiene too and surely the McCanns didn't bring dirty work coats on a holiday with them.
And how many tourists were there in that apartment prior to McCanns with possible cuts, nosebleeds etc..
On alerted places FSS found no inclusive DNA profiles except for the two PJ investigators and Gerry McCann
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So, what's then a likely scenario for you involving the dog findings? GM and KM hiding Maddie's deceased body behind a couch somewhere after more than 90mins she had died from an accident that afternoon and then both parents switched to perfectly normal behaviors at dinner time? Or do you think about some scenario with a burglar/abductor killing her (which makes the sofa finding very difficult to explain)? Just curious to learn how you want to connect the dots!
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Does anybody have a source where there was speculation about the PJ deliberately trying to incriminate the parents as per the hits the dogs made in the hire car, was this rumour put about by sleuths or tabloid press?
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I find that photograph of the pajamas to be really strange. The pink fleece top is super dirty and it's also torn along the bottom back edge. What is the deal with that? If you knew right away that those PJ's would be important and set them aside for later reference why do they look so filthy and torn? Is that what they looked like when the child wore them? It just is so odd to me. I have no idea that it means anything or matters, it just strikes me as weird. I know someone thought maybe the dirty spots were from DNA testing--is that what testing does? I thought they would just swab some places for that. It really looks like mud. oh well. I know there were days my kids ran around looking like ragamuffins. If I had to show their jammies, I might of been pretty embarrassed!
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I would assert people that hide the death of a child for any reason are not normal and their behavior shouldn't be compared to that of normal people in similar situations.
I believe narcissism and self preservation or a reluctance to face consequences are often present in parents that do this.
All IMO
For the record, I don't believe any of their friends knowingly covered up anything for the McCanns,
I do believe its possible one of their friends could be guilty, and the McCanns are innocent. but I don't believe it's likely,
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