Madeleine McCann General Discussion Thread No. 19

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

Well, if not sympathy, how about empathy?

Empathetic Doctors are hard to find...but if you do happen to come in contact with one, hold on for dear life, because they are the ones with all the patients, and the hardest to get an appointment with.

 

[Trino]

This is rich! It seems every time we have a discussion on a particular topic here, almost immediately there is a rebuttal in the press. Since when was bundleman RUNNING???

Now many of us said it would make more sense if he WAS running , and the fact he was leisurely strolling down a main street would make it highly unlikely he was "the" abductor....SO NOW...he's RUNNING down the street. Good grief, once again the McCann's PR are insulting my intelligence.

This is the first I have heard of Bundleman running. Even the picture that was flashed to the media portrays him as walking.

As for Madeline being suffocated when an abductor panicked, think about it... would an abductor then take a dead body with him? IMO he would just get the h... out ASAP.

 

[gord]

This is rich! It seems every time we have a discussion on a particular topic here, almost immediately there is a rebuttal in the press. Since when was bundleman RUNNING???

Now many of us said it would make more sence if he WAS running , and the fact he was leisurely strolling down a main street would make it highly unlikely he was "the" abductor....SO NOW...he's RUNNING down the street. Good grief, once again the McCann's PR are insulting my intelligence.

If Gerry and Clarence are as good at getting stories into the top selling newspapers as you think then their services will be in demand for years to come !!

The Daily Mail and its sisters papers this is London and the Standard have run Maddy stories every day for the past 6 months - every day ! Why ? becuase it helps circulation - its like the Diana syndrome - I certainly dont know any anyone who knows what the mails agenda on this is as they have ran contradictory stories some times against them sometimes for -

it is just tablod fodder though - wouldnt take too much notice of the minutae of the detail as they dont actualy base it much on facts !!

rememember the basis of a good journalist - never let the truth get in the way of a good story !!

 

[Squishified]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,312893,00.html

Don't know if this link has been posted yet.

 

[Squishified]

You don't mean me, do you?? I don't believe this story either.

 

[Trino]

You don't mean me, do you?? I don't believe this story either.

No (LOL), I didn't mean you. I meant the story is unreal.

 

[Salem]

About the jogging - please check Gerry's blog. He talks about it taking 19 minutes to jog to some point. I don't believe this was the very next day, but a day or two later. However, the proof is in Gerry's words, he wrote them.

About Kate's appearance. I can explain this away without any problem, the jogging also, just based on my own reaction to challenging situations. I can spend time dressing either when I need to think something through or I want NOT to think something through. If I'm thinking, I dress slowly, matching everything and going through my jewelry box. If I'm hiding from my mind, I pull out the hair dryer and the curling iron.

Jogging and just about any form of exercise help me clear my mind and again, the activity works both ways for me. When I'm thinking I walk, when I don't want to think I move faster.

Would I jog a day or two after my child went missing - I don't think so. Personally, I don't think I would have the presence of mind and I am certain, even if I did, I sure as heck wouldn't be timing the run........

I believe Kate and Gerry are involved for many reason. Just my opinion of course. At this point, one of the biggest reasons I continue to think they are involved is because of the all the garbarage being printed in the media. I believe K&G are behind some of the reports (or thier spokesman).

And for the life of me, I can not figure out why you need a spokesperson to face the media for you.......... I have never seen this done before. Did the Ramseys do this?

Salem

 

[MagicRose99]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,312893,00.html

Don't know if this link has been posted yet.

I really believe that this police force has no idea what they are doing... they will never solve this crime because they are so inept it's pathetic.

 

[Pinkhammer]

"You have to understand, medical doctors, nurses, and other medical professionals have a different take on death. I know many, (from working in a hospital for years), and death is not a huge deal to a lot of these people. They see it often, and become callous to it. My best friend is a charge RN at the local hospital, she sees death every day, and thinks of it as a good thing to end suffering. Of course, I can't understand it, and most of us can't. Emotional Doctors/nurses are rare. The emos don't cut it, and don't last. How would you react if you took your child to the ER and the staff where all bawling while they where trying to resuscitate them"

Too true. We cannot forget how many top Nazis, especially those involved in human experimentation in the death camps, were medical doctors. Like Mengele.

In some naive minds, "doctor" is equivalent to "saint". Not hardly! We have dozens of cases here in the US where doctors have murdered their wives, often premeditatedly, and then put on the "innocent act".

The McCanns and their Tapas friends are no saints.

 

[Pinkhammer]

another day - another media report

Police's final verdict on Madeleine: 'Murdered by a paedophile who panicked'

Last updated at 10:23am on 26th November 2007
Detectives are on the verge of concluding Madeleine McCann was killed by a paedophile intruder who panicked and suffocated her when she screamed.
Portuguese police are thought to be considering absolving her parents of any blame and pinning her death on a mystery man seen running from their holiday flat with a child in a blanket.

The U-turn is being mooted after a massive review of the case under a new police team led by senior detective Paulo Rebelo.

Full article here

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=496379&in_page_id=1770


yet another theory , yet another day .

Oh right--The Daily Mail--Clarence's mouthpiece. Consider the source.

 

[SleuthMom]

How in the world they came with the conclusion of a "panicked pedophile"?

 

[swa]

I really believe that this police force has no idea what they are doing... they will never solve this crime because they are so inept it's pathetic.

It's amazing to me how because they are doctor's and "attractive" that many of the public believe there is no chance these beautiful people could be responsible for this.

I normally have a good sixth sense on cases -- and this just reeks of the parents being involved in some capacity. I know television has glamorized child abductions to make it seem like they are common -- but it's VERY RARE that a child is abducted and killed.

Of course it doesn't mean that in this case it didn't happen.

They just aren't acting correctly -- just like the Ramsey's didn't act correctly.

 

[MagicRose99]

This police force has said its: the neighbor, the mom, the parents, a stranger and now an "unknown pedophile"... this force doesn't know it's head from it's *BLEEP*

 

[gord]

Oh right--The Daily Mail--Clarence's mouthpiece. Consider the source.

yep you have it the Daily Mail will publish anything that Clarence says - they are in his pocket

 

[Trino]

This police force has said its: the neighbor, the mom, the parents, a stranger and now an "unknown pedophile"... this force doesn't know it's head from it's *BLEEP*

How likely is it that the Portuguese PD has been told by someone in a higher position that if they let the McCanns off the hook and blame some unknown pedophile who will never be found, the case will just wilt away. In other words, the McCanns are fairly wealthy and have political connections. Meanwhile, the PPD will look good, the media will lose interest, the McCanns will continue to look after their fund, and Madeline, unfortunately, will remain listed as missing.

 

[Rino]

This police force has said its: the neighbor, the mom, the parents, a stranger and now an "unknown pedophile"... this force doesn't know it's head from it's *BLEEP*

The only problem I have with this logic is that we really don't know what the police think outside the fact that they have made the McCanns suspects. The law is they may not discuss the case, so reporters try to get what they can.

On the other hand the McCanns, who also are not to discuss the case, have given differing accounts of what took place that evening - personally and through their media machine.

 

[gord]

How likely is it that the Portuguese PD has been told by someone in a higher position that if they let the McCanns off the hook and blame some unknown pedophile who will never be found, the case will just wilt away. In other words, the McCanns are fairly wealthy and have political connections. Meanwhile, the PPD will look good, the media will lose interest, the McCanns will continue to look after their fund, and Madeline, unfortunately, will remain listed as missing.

I do have to laugh at this - political connections - what ??? you must know more than we do here and please dont say Gordon Brown - he is in so much political do da at the moment - he would run an absolute mile

we are talking about Gerry and Kate - from Leicster they have about as much political connections as I have - and belive me I dont have much

 

[SleuthMom]

so what you are saying is that anyone can make the most outlandish comments - from way left field and beause we have no 100% proof they must be considered with everything else ?

Thats easy - I think it was the twins that killed Maddy ? you dont think so - prove the didnt do it - - you couldnt not 100%

I think we all have enough leeway here to take some of the most crazy comments and maybe say - no that didnt happen

I do not think in any way that Kate went for jog the day after - the very next day - it is just not a viable argument -

Gordie, what I am saying is just as you do not think Kate went for a jog the day after, let people who DO believe she did express their opinion without you saying "it did not happen" unless you have evidence. It's speculation on their part as well as yours.

 

[daffodil]

What I thought, just pure speculation on your part. You have no proof whatsoever. The same thing that gets on your nerves on how people say things without proof...well, you are doing the same thing. That's why I think it is impossible for us not to discuss this topic without some theories because really there is not much information to work on.

You cant prove a negative.

 

[daffodil]

It's amazing to me how because they are doctor's and "attractive" that many of the public believe there is no chance these beautiful people could be responsible for this.

I normally have a good sixth sense on cases -- and this just reeks of the parents being involved in some capacity. I know television has glamorized child abductions to make it seem like they are common -- but it's VERY RARE that a child is abducted and killed.

Of course it doesn't mean that in this case it didn't happen.

They just aren't acting correctly -- just like the Ramsey's didn't act correctly.

Everybody's idea of "correctly" is different,I dont think there is a standard to follow when you lose a child.I am one who does not believe they had anything to do with it and it has NOTHING to do with them being doctors or "beautiful" people.