Madeleine McCann General Discussion Thread No. 26

[osadelnorte]

I am on the fence with regard to the McCanns' involvement in Madeleine 's disappearance.

What strikes me, is their media presence: surely, if they were involved in Madeleine's disappearance, they would want as little media exposure as possible and would rather want the case to die down in the public eye as opposed to writing books, appearing on talk shows, etc.

If you committed a crime, or was somehow responsible for your child's death, you would not want to talk to the media, because you may just unintentionally incriminate yourself by something you said.

I agree in general, but there have been so many cases where the parents did everything they could to expose the case to the media after faking an abduction. It doesn't usually go on for 5+ years, of course, but it happens. I'm thinking of the Shannon Matthews case in the UK, or the Susan Smith case in the US. In the extreme, there's the JonBenet Ramsey case; her father recently published another book 16 years after the child's death.

 

[Tink]

I am on the fence with regard to the McCanns' involvement in Madeleine 's disappearance.

What strikes me, is their media presence: surely, if they were involved in Madeleine's disappearance, they would want as little media exposure as possible and would rather want the case to die down in the public eye as opposed to writing books, appearing on talk shows, etc.

If you committed a crime, or was somehow responsible for your child's death, you would not want to talk to the media, because you may just unintentionally incriminate yourself by something you said.

As mentioned, there are many examples of parents who have courted media exposure after killing or harming their children. I think it is especially common when the parents are rather narcissistic and believe they are smarter than everyone else.

Tink

 

[Clutchbag]

Yup perhaps staying in the media is teying to PROVE they had nothing to do with it ESPECIALLY if they KNOW there cant be evidence against them

 

[SapphireSteel]

I am on the fence with regard to the McCanns' involvement in Madeleine 's disappearance.

What strikes me, is their media presence: surely, if they were involved in Madeleine's disappearance, they would want as little media exposure as possible and would rather want the case to die down in the public eye as opposed to writing books, appearing on talk shows, etc.

If you committed a crime, or was somehow responsible for your child's death, you would not want to talk to the media, because you may just unintentionally incriminate yourself by something you said.

One word: greed.

Pretty little missing girls rake in huge money. The McCanns quickly realised that with the right PR this could be a money spinner - and it is, to this day. They have made (and spent) millions.

Witness the indecent hate of setting up a private company to administer the funds in secret - it was incorporated by 15 May.

That's right, 12 days after Madeleine had disappeared.

I don't know about you but I wouldn't be bothered meeting with fancy high priced lawyers and setting up a private company, hiring staff and advisors and people to run the company, 10 days (probably less, all this takes time) after my baby went missing, and I was still hoping to get her back.

Incorporating a Private Company and all that entails, would be the last thing on my mind. It would feel like profiting from her disappearance. It would be a lot simpler, more respectful and less expensive just to set up a bank account in Madeleine's name.

Not Team McCann.

:banghead:

 

[Blunomore]

One word: greed.

Pretty little missing girls rake in huge money. The McCanns quickly realised that with the right PR this could be a money spinner - and it is, to this day. They have made (and spent) millions.

Witness the indecent hate of setting up a private company to administer the funds in secret - it was incorporated by 15 May.

That's right, 12 days after Madeleine had disappeared.

I don't know about you but I wouldn't be bothered meeting with fancy high priced lawyers and setting up a private company, hiring staff and advisors and people to run the company, 10 days (probably less, all this takes time) after my baby went missing, and I was still hoping to get her back.

Incorporating a Private Company and all that entails, would be the last thing on my mind. It would feel like profiting from her disappearance. It would be a lot simpler, more respectful and less expensive just to set up a bank account in Madeleine's name.

Not Team McCann.

:banghead:

In all fairness, surely they did not profit from this company in their private capacities. Surely all the money was ploughed back into the search? I mean, I cannot imagine they took the money for themselves?

 

[osadelnorte]

In all fairness, surely they did not profit from this company in their private capacities. Surely all the money was ploughed back into the search? I mean, I cannot imagine they took the money for themselves?

The proceeds from Kate's book were intended to go back into the fund they set up. There is even a label on the front cover saying this. I don't know whether that actually happened, of course, but I'm trying to remain optimistic.

 

[SapphireSteel]

In all fairness, surely they did not profit from this company in their private capacities. Surely all the money was ploughed back into the search? I mean, I cannot imagine they took the money for themselves?

:lol:

Yes, they did take the money for themselves!

The private company was set up to "provide support, including financial assistance, to Madeleine's family".

We know that money was accessed and used for personal expenses, and that "Madeleine's family" is so vague that it also happens to encompass most of the members of the board as well who could also receive "financial assistance"...which they have done, in spades.

:banghead:

 

[Clutchbag]

oops, oh dear

http://www.facebook.com/Official.Find.Madeleine.Campaign

TREACLEW12QPR is a fraud asking for money in Madeleine's name. Please do not donate to this fund. It's not from us. ''

That is what the official madeleine facebook admin have posted

it turns out the tweeter they are referring to was not asking for money but just posting about the fact the mccanns had said theyhad never called her Maddie but had put out an advert for where people were to text to give moneys, ie

Text maddie 60999

Eek

how could they get that so wrong

Madeleine's Fund launched
*
By phone:
Text "MADDIE" to 60999 and £1 will be taken from your phone for the Madeleine Fund. (Standard network charges apply)
*
FindMadeleine.com,*16 May 2007

 

[Clutchbag]

In all fairness, surely they did not profit from this company in their private capacities. Surely all the money was ploughed back into the search? I mean, I cannot imagine they took the money for themselves?

Seeing as opposed to what they have said that the funds will betransparent and they have been anything but one does wonder

Why would anyone with a fund with moneys from the pubkic want to hide from the public what they have been spent on?

It is a fact that they have used the fund monies to sue people and therefore taking the donated funds away from actual searching although gerry mccannwent on tv and said every penny was spent directly on SEARCH FEES!!! Which is a lie

he also said in one interview that they had recieved 2.5 million poind so far to date by may 2011 when its documented they had recieved alot more than that

There are also some strange things in their first lot of accounts, eg 37 thousand pounds for setting up their poxy 10 page website

hundreds of thousands paid to LAWYERS

amounts alledged to have been paid to private detectives were disputed by said private detectives as a tenth of the cost

 

[Clutchbag]

The proceeds from Kate's book were intended to go back into the fund they set up. There is even a label on the front cover saying this. I don't know whether that actually happened, of course, but I'm trying to remain optimistic.

There was nothing in the last returns to show this, and i bet it wont be in the next returns either, thats both royalties and serialisation moneys from the sun and upfront money from the publishers

how it seems to me for a number of years is the more money they get the more they say the fund is low and nearly dry, makes no sense unless it is being drained for other things than actually spending money on finsing their child

 

[osadelnorte]

There was nothing in the last returns to show this, and i bet it wont be in the next returns either, thats both royalties and serialisation moneys from the sun and upfront money from the publishers

Well, that's disappointing. I really want to give these people the benefit of the doubt in the whole situation but information like that does make it more difficult for me.

 

[SapphireSteel]

Well, that's disappointing. I really want to give these people the benefit of the doubt in the whole situation but information like that does make it more difficult for me.

Those of us very familiar with the ways of the McCann are not surprised, not one little bit.

McCann is British for "Ramsey".

There are so many similarities between the cases it is amazing, almost like McCann followed the Script that Ramsey wrote.

Including profiteering from their daughters death.

 

[osadelnorte]

Those of us very familiar with the ways of the McCann are not surprised, not one little bit.

McCann is British for "Ramsey".

There are so many similarities between the cases it is amazing, almost like McCann followed the Script that Ramsey wrote.

Including profiteering from their daughters death.

They are very similar. I've followed the Ramsey case closely since it happened. I think there are a lot of things alike in these two cases. I hadn't started making connections in my own mind until recently, though; I heard about Madeleine's disappearance back when it happened too, but hadn't read much about the case until fairly recently and now I can't seem to get enough. It's pretty riveting stuff.

 

[Dymphna]

I am on the fence with regard to the McCanns' involvement in Madeleine 's disappearance.

What strikes me, is their media presence: surely, if they were involved in Madeleine's disappearance, they would want as little media exposure as possible and would rather want the case to die down in the public eye as opposed to writing books, appearing on talk shows, etc.

If you committed a crime, or was somehow responsible for your child's death, you would not want to talk to the media, because you may just unintentionally incriminate yourself by something you said.

Narcissists might find the media's attention irresistible...jmo.

 

[Dymphna]

One word: greed.

Pretty little missing girls rake in huge money. The McCanns quickly realised that with the right PR this could be a money spinner - and it is, to this day. They have made (and spent) millions.

Witness the indecent hate of setting up a private company to administer the funds in secret - it was incorporated by 15 May.

That's right, 12 days after Madeleine had disappeared.

I don't know about you but I wouldn't be bothered meeting with fancy high priced lawyers and setting up a private company, hiring staff and advisors and people to run the company, 10 days (probably less, all this takes time) after my baby went missing, and I was still hoping to get her back.

Incorporating a Private Company and all that entails, would be the last thing on my mind. It would feel like profiting from her disappearance. It would be a lot simpler, more respectful and less expensive just to set up a bank account in Madeleine's name.

Not Team McCann.

:banghead:

Don't forget, Gerry had "the vision" in the church of the fund and the "wider agenda" followed. He was also planning the one year anniversary of her disappearance within less than a month. :waitasec:

 

[SapphireSteel]

Ugh that man.

Do you know what he said to LE when they said they thought his daughter was dead and he knew why?

He didn't say "you idiots, will you stop questioning me and just keep looking, you have the wrong guy!"

He said "you haven't got a body, you haven't got anything".

Just watching him discredit the sniffer dogs is mind boggling enough.

:sick:

 

[Dymphna]

In all fairness, surely they did not profit from this company in their private capacities. Surely all the money was ploughed back into the search? I mean, I cannot imagine they took the money for themselves?

Sadly, they did and continue to do so.

They paid some of their mortgage payments out of "the fund".

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...use-1million-Madeleine-fund-pay-mortgage.html

And they have continued to use the fund to pay their attorneys in lawsuits against individuals who have dared to question their innocence, ie Goncalo Amaral and Tony Bennett to name two.

IMO

 

[SapphireSteel]

Attempted censorship.

Extraordinary that it should come to this.

The way they have behaved after 3 May have proven their guilt, in my opinion. Not that there was really any doubt.

I actually think they may have planned it, on the spur of the moment. They didn't want to return to England with Madeleine because she was too much trouble/not quite perfect.

What better place to "lose" a difficult child than a small Portugese fishing village with no police station and hopefully, no sophisticated police?

ullhair:

 

[Clutchbag]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLvnfcl-Zkg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Interesting video

Not forgetting from 26 56 mins gerry tells the outright porkie lie that the cadaver and blood dogs were brough in at his request, mwahahahahahahahahah pinocchio

 

[Clutchbag]

oops, oh dear

http://www.facebook.com/Official.Find.Madeleine.Campaign

TREACLEW12QPR is a fraud asking for money in Madeleine's name. Please do not donate to this fund. It's not from us. ''

That is what the official madeleine facebook admin have posted

it turns out the tweeter they are referring to was not asking for money but just posting about the fact the mccanns had said theyhad never called her Maddie but had put out an advert for where people were to text to give moneys, ie

Text maddie 60999

Eek

how could they get that so wrong

Madeleine's Fund launched
*
By phone:
Text "MADDIE" to 60999 and £1 will be taken from your phone for the Madeleine Fund. (Standard network charges apply)
*
FindMadeleine.com,*16 May 2007

The official madeleine Facebook page after complaints which have been deleted, surprise surprise have altered their original message without apologising for calling someone a fraud and a thief just because they posted their original text a donation message with the word maddie just to show the mccanns were lying when they sajd she was never called maddie (the mccanns own text number one) but still INSINUATING that someone is asking for donations, how crass, how low and despicable
I hope they APOLOGISE to the tweeter who they reported to the police for usinf their OWN text message donation number, LOL, what dumbos, this is their message
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Please do not donate to anyone via text message asking for money in Madeleine's name. We do not use this method at this point in time for donations.

Thank you to all who have given in the past to help in the search for Madeleine.