Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #10

[SuperdadV8]

I've got 2 dogs and they're not square

Also this one is not!

 

[Betty_Boop88]

I've got 2 dogs and they're not square
They're not guide dogs either

You crack me up, Ted lol.

 

[Dlk79]

CB was perhaps a Gigolo. That doesn't make him a mastermind abductor who can jink PJ, SY and BKA.

Doesn't take a mastermind. Just someone brazen enough and/or with some connections and a bit of luck. It's only PJ who had the proper opportunity to catch the abductor and their approach was woeful, BKA and SY have just picked up a cold case in effect. We've seen CB is cunning, and he's not stupid. The planning that took place in the rape shows he's more than aware of how to cover his tracks. Along with the hundreds of burglaries he never got caught for. Is breaking in and stealing valuables from an apartment really that much different from stealing a sleeping child in terms of the procedure? Doesn't take a genius IMO.

 

[MENDEL]

DLK, I agree PJ could have done a better job, especially because they were helped by UK's LE. But PJ are not amateur children CB can jink this way.

 

[tedtink]

I've wondered if it was NF and whether her background inspired her choice of work, her enduring connection and loyalty to CB and perhaps drug use.

They grew up in the same town apparently, but her Father went to the house, so I doubt she was in the childrens home with CB.
I think her choice of career probably endeared NF to CB (felt sorry for him, thought she could rescue him) maybe? jmo

 

[Kikixxxx]

she probably thought he was cool cause he was older too, had his own kiosk etc. i remember being 16/17, i dated some very questionable looking people just cause they had a car & i thought it was cool

 

[Dlk79]

DLK, I agree PJ could have done a better job, especially because they were helped by UK's LE. But PJ are not amateur children CB can jink this way.

You mean like how he "jinked" them on the hundreds of burglaries he did on their patch? And all the drug dealing they never caught him for? Or like the rape that it took BKA to solve for them?

 

[Deleted member 268067]

Doesn't take a mastermind. Just someone brazen enough and/or with some connections and a bit of luck. It's only PJ who had the proper opportunity to catch the abductor and their approach was woeful, BKA and SY have just picked up a cold case in effect. We've seen CB is cunning, and he's not stupid. The planning that took place in the rape shows he's more than aware of how to cover his tracks. Along with the hundreds of burglaries he never got caught for. Is breaking in and stealing valuables from an apartment really that much different from stealing a sleeping child in terms of the procedure? Doesn't take a genius IMO.

This is true actually. In the case of MM at least. I’m not sure he has the skill set to be a serial killer but there’s a change he got away with if because of a perfect storm of circumstances.

 

[haden]

I think CB ( if it was him) was lucky that Amaral was leading the case. Amaral was stubbornly fixated on parents and did not look further from his nose.
It seems CB gets furious whenever confronted by a weaker side but pretends to be nice and eloquent when confronted by someone more powerful than him.
In the Guardian article I posted earlier there is an account from a journalist who actually followed his trial case earlier.

Bettina Thoenes, a reporter for the Braunschweiger Zeitung, who followed the rape trial, described him as “a man of intelligent appearance, dressed in a simple grey shirt and slightly oversized jeans”. She said he was eloquent, and quoted frequently from legal text books.

Witnesses who gave evidence at the trial described him as a “fortune hunter”, and someone who “tried to exude something special, but at the same time didn’t make out that he was the big cheese”.

They remembered him driving a Jaguar, and paid attention to his appearance. “He went around in a very groomed manner, always wearing a shirt and jacket.” Some referred to him as the “maitre d’”.

 

[MENDEL]

You mean like how he "jinked" them on the hundreds of burglaries he did on their patch? And all the drug dealing they never caught him for? Or like the rape that it took BKA to solve for them?

DLK, please don't compare investigation of robberies with child abduction. And this child abduction in particular. I can give you a list of tourist places targeted by unsolved robberies around the globe, but that would pollute this thread.

About the rape, it's a mystery how BKA could solve it. Lots of missing info there.

 

[tedtink]

Sorry (!!!), but either you are blind or never owned a dog!

It certainly looks like it's had its ready brek (glowing!).
OK so it could be a dog or a cushion.

 

[SuperdadV8]

Come on people...

 

[Betty_Boop88]

You mean like how he "jinked" them on the hundreds of burglaries he did on their patch? And all the drug dealing they never caught him for? Or like the rape that it took BKA to solve for them?

Maybe he didn’t “jink” them? A few quid in the right person’s hand could be enough for them to turn a blind eye?
I had read something earlier where a British expat described PdL as a “sleepy town. A haven away from all this (crime)” Just considering CB’s theft crimes alone, it doesn’t sound like much of a haven to me. And that’s saying nothing of the rapes, the paedophilia... And he was just one of many thieves/rapists (if he really wasn’t responsible for HB’s rape, then that means there was another rapist on the loose)/paedophiles in the town at that time. And this woman really heard nothing about all that?? So it wasn’t being reported in the papers? Why? Was it because the crimes weren’t being investigated? If so, why?

 

[haden]

You mean like how he "jinked" them on the hundreds of burglaries he did on their patch? And all the drug dealing they never caught him for? Or like the rape that it took BKA to solve for them?

Amaral was for 12 years in charge of drugs dealing in Algarve.
Twice lucky!

 

[worldwatcher]

No developments on MM's disappearance...

I keep thinking Christian Brückner isn't clever enough to commit such an ingeniously planned abduction. All his known crimes are disastrous.

I admit he could have been there, but he was just an accomplice, mere manpower, never a gang-leader, not even in dreams.

I agree with you in some way.I think because of his drifting life-styl,many cars, he hardly came into the picture,also LE didn’t do a very good job(Imo),messy investigation,dna samples/evidence destroyed not stored the way it should be,list of blunders goes on and on...Maybe it doesn’t take a genius to get away with it,determination and bold luck.

I re-read older news and it seems that is 2013 LEAlready tracked phone records
Phone records may aid Madeleine case

Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood, who is leading the inquiry, said officers were examining a "substantial amount of data" from thousands of mobile phones thought to belong to people who were in the resort of Praia da Luz in the days just before, during and after Madeleine's disappearance.

 

[Dlk79]

DLK, please don't compare investigation of robberies with child abduction. And this child abduction in particular. I can give you a list of tourist places targeted by unsolved robberies around the globe, but that would pollute this thread.

About the rape, it's a mystery how BKA could solve it. Lots of missing info there.

Well aside from the extra resources, what makes an abduction easier to solve than a robbery? If the suspect leaves no forensic trace (which we know he was savvy about) and nobody witnessed them do it (which applies to his numerous robberies he was never caught for), what do you expect the PJ to pick up on anyway? You seem to be dismissing CB as the perp on the basis he was not smart enough to get past the PJ even though he'd done exactly that hundreds of times before.

 

[tedtink]

DLK, please don't compare investigation of robberies with child abduction. And this child abduction in particular. I can give you a list of tourist places targeted by unsolved robberies around the globe, but that would pollute this thread.

About the rape, it's a mystery how BKA could solve it. Lots of missing info there.

I think BP cleared out the house as a favor to CB.
I think BP found the footage and reported it the Police years later.

 

[Justice4all9]

They grew up in the same town apparently, but her Father went to the house, so I doubt she was in the childrens home with CB.
I think her choice of career probably endeared her to CB (felt sorry for him, thought she could rescue him) maybe? jmo

Madeleine McCann suspect's ex says police should find his battered estate car

Yes your theory makes sense. The above link indicates def not NF!

He came to Portugal with a German girl. He said they grew up in a children’s home together. She left him for someone else. He said to me once that if he ever found her he would kill her.

“It made me think, ‘If he said that about her, what would he do to me if I left him?’

 

[MENDEL]

I agree with you in some way.I think because of his drifting life-styl,many cars, he hardly came into the picture,also LE didn’t do a very good job(Imo),messy investigation,dna samples/evidence destroyed not stored the way it should be,list of blunders goes on and on...Maybe it doesn’t take a genius to get away with it,determination and bold luck.

I re-read older news and it seems that is 2013 LEAlready tracked phone records
Phone records may aid Madeleine case

Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood, who is leading the inquiry, said officers were examining a "substantial amount of data" from thousands of mobile phones thought to belong to people who were in the resort of Praia da Luz in the days just before, during and after Madeleine's disappearance.

Good links. I'm almost sure I read or heard somewhere (but can't find where so far) CB was querried about PDL calls when summoned in Braunschweig in 2013.

 

[MENDEL]

Well aside from the extra resources, what makes an abduction easier to solve than a robbery? If the suspect leaves no forensic trace (which we know he was savvy abouy) and nobody witnessed them do it (which applies to his numerous robberies he was never caught for), what do you expect the PJ to pick up on anyway? You seem to be dismissing CB as the perp on the basis he was not smart enough to get past the PJ even though he'd done exactly that hundreds of times before.

After his robberies he just had to run away from spot fast. I'm sure he felt safe enough 1km or less from place. After an abduction, I'm sure one must have a safe destination to reach in less than 30min. Not exactly the same thing. This discussion leads to nowhere.