Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #11

[tedtink]

What on earth is going on? So was any of the well search aspect based on German LE intelligence or purely Portugal LE acting on their own?

Madeleine McCann police failed to tell prosecutors about plan to search wells

Portuguese police sent divers to explore three wells last week in the search for Maddie, although they failed to tell German prosecutors about the dives amid calls for a joint investigation

German prosecutors were not told about fresh searches for Madeleine McCann – and say they do not even know what prompted them.

Mr Wolters, overseeing the investigation into paedophile Brueckner, said of Thursday’s search: “I read about it, but the measures were not taken in consultation with us.

The Portuguese police are investigating themselves. We don’t know what knowledge they are based on.”

According to reports in Germany, Mr Wolters suspects the Portuguese police, startled by renewed global attention, may have had new information.

In our case the evidence is complete, the suspect is in custody.”

“In our case the evidence is complete, the suspect is in custody.”

Complete? Why do you think they haven't charged him yet?

 

[haden]

IMO we should be relaxed!

In the last 4 weeks, most of the british tabloids put out info.

In germany, the case has not that attention in the media at first!

Actually I saw that report that PJ is not communicating with Germany earlier and it was in German.

 

[tedtink]

Funny that!
I was going to say yesterday that I was surprised the German LE trusted the Portuguese with these well searches, especially after their previous 'searches' for evidence.
Perhaps the PJ are trying to redeem themselves.

 

[haden]

Yes, but still we do not know where he has got the van from. Maybe it was really part of the auction of the property.

It wasn't. Because the auction was in 201o and he had the caravan in 2007

 

[MENDEL]

Or something similar like a bag or tied up blanket filled with stones. Corpes will float after about 7 days due to gasses released in decomposition. Once they hit the surface it would stink too so chances are if MM was dumped in a well, her remains may be wrapped in something. Was going to suggest LE might know that she was put in something and that's what they are searching for but based on the latest Mirror article now, who knows...

But corpses will sink again if left untouched for 5-6 days as I learned from Edgar Allan Poe's The mystery of Marie Rogêt, first detective story ever.

 

[tedtink]

I guess you guys spotted this chap in the Mirror article too........worth a read.
Espacio Exterior

 

[peanutJelly]

Keep looking and i will find the source! Maybe i got that wrong!

I think it was MT who said he suspected he bought it with drug money when he turned up at Orgiva, that was I think before he went back to Germany and bought the box factory.
Just noticed on google maps orgiva close to los tablones, 9 min drive

 

[peanutJelly]

His belongings didn't necessarily get "stolen" - it was most likely a fake "burglary" ie - some friends took care of his stuff for a while.
Also it wouldn't have been impossible to have sold just one stolen Rolex watch to buy the Allegro -

Yes I’m sure I read that his friends were asked to fake a burglary, can’t find it now though as was a while ago

 

[SuperdadV8]

What on earth is going on? So was any of the well search aspect based on German LE intelligence or purely Portugal LE acting on their own?

Madeleine McCann police failed to tell prosecutors about plan to search wells

Portuguese police sent divers to explore three wells last week in the search for Maddie, although they failed to tell German prosecutors about the dives amid calls for a joint investigation

German prosecutors were not told about fresh searches for Madeleine McCann – and say they do not even know what prompted them.

Mr Wolters, overseeing the investigation into paedophile Brueckner, said of Thursday’s search: “I read about it, but the measures were not taken in consultation with us.

The Portuguese police are investigating themselves. We don’t know what knowledge they are based on.”

According to reports in Germany, Mr Wolters suspects the Portuguese police, startled by renewed global attention, may have had new information.

In our case the evidence is complete, the suspect is in custody.”

If this info is right, very nice!!!

But also nothing to be proud of it, because if it's true, P.J.'s work makes me nervous...

 

[SuperdadV8]

It wasn't. Because the auction was in 201o and he had the caravan in 2007

Yes. But who said it? The Media or the prosecuters?

 

[peanutJelly]

Apparently the Winnebago cost 40.000 euro at the time:
IN DEPTH: Police in Portugal start searching wells in Maddie McCann case as investigations intensify - Olive Press News Spain

Ah yes, this is what I was thinking of. Says here NF had 2 young children of her own, I thought previous reports said one?

 

[Dlk79]

Yes. But who said it? The Media or the prosecuters?

His friend MT said he had the Allegro in 2007.

EXCLUSIVE: Former friend of Maddie suspect Christian B spent months with him in Spain's Andalucia and believes he's guilty - Olive Press News Spain

So did NF's father DF -

Prime suspect in Madeleine McCann abduction boasted he could transport children in his campervan | Daily Mail Online

 

[peanutJelly]

IMHO a crucial witness, NF, is talking to German LE. Like the Foral's couple said, she and BP couldn't ignore what CB did. More so NF who lived with him at the time.

NF seems to have been running a dodgy place herself, not sure if it’s guilt, or a deal to protect herself or lessen her own charges? IMO this is a possibility

 

[Jenesaisquoi]

Ah yes, this is what I was thinking of. Says here NF had 2 young children of her own, I thought previous reports said one?

At the time CB made the remarks about transporting children and drugs, Nicole’s father seemed to indicate one daughter (ie his granddaughter). Maybe another since then? I doubt he was unimaginative enough to think that boys were not abused in general and didn’t mention a male sibling at the time.

 

[peanutJelly]

What on earth is going on? So was any of the well search aspect based on German LE intelligence or purely Portugal LE acting on their own?

Madeleine McCann police failed to tell prosecutors about plan to search wells

Portuguese police sent divers to explore three wells last week in the search for Maddie, although they failed to tell German prosecutors about the dives amid calls for a joint investigation

German prosecutors were not told about fresh searches for Madeleine McCann – and say they do not even know what prompted them.

Mr Wolters, overseeing the investigation into paedophile Brueckner, said of Thursday’s search: “I read about it, but the measures were not taken in consultation with us.

The Portuguese police are investigating themselves. We don’t know what knowledge they are based on.”

According to reports in Germany, Mr Wolters suspects the Portuguese police, startled by renewed global attention, may have had new information.

In our case the evidence is complete, the suspect is in custody.”

“The evidence is complete” ?! Could it be there’s someone else they are suspicious of too?! CB is after all in custody so no need to charge him yet as he’s not going anywhere. This is getting so confusing now....!

 

[SuperdadV8]

His friend MT said he had the Allegro in 2007.

EXCLUSIVE: Former friend of Maddie suspect Christian B spent months with him in Spain's Andalucia and believes he's guilty - Olive Press News Spain

So did NF's father DF -

Prime suspect in Madeleine McCann abduction boasted he could transport children in his campervan | Daily Mail Online

Of course! But was it his own property? He even had "friends", that registered Jags on their names. IMO, driving to spain or germany with a vehicle, close to a finished prison sentence, does not mean he could afford a Winnebago/Allegro whatever. He never acted alone, as we know.

MT, NF, BP., AB...

 

[Jenesaisquoi]

I can’t imagine Nicole would feel any guilt about MM, whether she knew anything at the time or since. If she has been taking advantage of vulnerable youngsters herself, she wouldn’t get involved in anyone else’s messes except to save her own skin, is my opinion.

 

[peanutJelly]

But I did find out from a Professor if you place bricks around a body then wrap it in chicken wire, it won't come to the surface of water when it starts to bloat.

Can’t bring myself to give that one a ‘like’!

 

[peanutJelly]

I guess you guys spotted this chap in the Mirror article too........worth a read.
Espacio Exterior

Blocked as a pornographic site?!

 

[tedtink]

Blocked as a pornographic site?!

Not on my computer it isn't.............. It's a blog by this guy who is mentioned in the Mirror article.

Espacio Exterior
Heriberto Janosch González, PhD.
Psychologist and Educator, Master of Investigation in Psychology. Expert's Degree in Criminology. Madrid.