Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #11

[Lilly b]

Isn't one of his parents Italian?

No, could of been to do with RS, never gave it a thought, till you mentioned it

 

[william tell]

After 11 threads looking at meaningless photographs of vans parked in various places, asking about timelines, looking at every girlfriend CB ever had blah blah blah......

Nothing has changed. Not an iota.

Even the Germans are giving up soon. See link to DM article above.

Pointless Sleuthing is pointless. A good sleuth knows when it is a dead end.

One can study every clue that has been in the papers etc and the case files and will end up no wiser that when first started.
Obviously Maddie was removed from 5A by someone and that's where the story begins for me. I am not 100% convinced she died in the apt which allows me to adopt the abduction theory and take off the blinkers.
There is a strong possibility that CB did in fact remove her and pass her on. This would clear him from the current narrative that the police are inferring. That's why they will find nothing in the wells.

 

[misty48]

No, could of been to do with RS, never gave it a thought, till you mentioned it

Yes, sorry, that's who I was thinking of in connection to CB. NF & RS split up didn't they but I've not seen any details about where he went to afterwards.

 

[NCanning]

Yes, sorry, that's who I was thinking of in connection to CB. NF & RS split up didn't they but I've not seen any details about where he went to afterwards.

RS seems to have vanished into thin air...

 

[Dlk79]

Just seen this, in olive press, look at the date???
That throws dates out the window, we thought it was May or june

The Dragon Festival 2007. Cigarrones nr. Órgiva, La Alpujarra, Andalucia, Spain. March 16th -18th

No, think you are getting mixed up. MT said he went to the Dragon Festival in the March, he doesn't say that CB also went then, he left CB in Portugal. He then goes on to say the next time he saw CB was when he turned up at Orgiva in late May/early June with the Winnebago.

 

[Lilly b]

No, think you are getting mixed up. MT said he went to the Dragon Festival in the March, he doesn't say that CB also went then, he left CB in Portugal. He then goes on to say the next time he saw CB was when he turned up at Orgiva in late May/early June with the Winnebago.

Thanks, it was more MT I was referring to, not CB, I suppose we know exactly when MT left then really

 

[Lilly b]

RS seems to have vanished into thin air...

Totally, I'm sure he will of been spoken too though, well I hope he has

 

[Kikixxxx]

So the 72 year old is deff still alive ( I can’t remember but someone asked me this the other day )

A quick google of her name plus the location in America where she lives brings up with her full address and other details. Doesn’t look like she has any children, which makes me feel sad for some reason. I hope she has friends looking after her. Also Looks like a pic of her with her ex husband too if it was that easy for Me to find then I’m sure the press will have discovered it too.... naming no names (SF)

 

[Lilly b]

Yes, sorry, that's who I was thinking of in connection to CB. NF & RS split up didn't they but I've not seen any details about where he went to afterwards.

And, we possibly shouldn't really, but maybe he has given info about them, and what was going on, he will of seen first hand

 

[Chiatos]

I had asked before on WS about RS. Unfortunately there was no answer. Perhaps now someone can answer?
What is known about RS besides that one link of nf on facetime?

Why do some sleuthers think he's Italian?

 

[Lilly b]

I had asked before on WS about RS. Unfortunately there was no answer. Perhaps now someone can answer?
What is known about RS besides that one link of nf on facetime?

Why do some sleuthers think he's Italian?

Well, we're on #11 now, and it has, or he has been mentioned previously, so it will of been on a thread, and you would need to go back through them all, I can't help any more than that, I also think their are people from different countries on here, so the time difference can effect when people are on to reply, hope that helps

 

[BIZCOCHO]

Google translate
"Sexta ás 9" Ep.23 26: 45/28: 50
"Jon Clarke, editor of Olive Press in Spain, was the only journalist who was able to speak on the phone with Brueckner's cellmate. The description of the video he made does not coincide with the violation of this 73-year-old American, by which Chiristian Brueckner he was convicted in Germany last year, but the existence of the video and the concern he showed in destroying it strengthens the thesis that he used to capture the violations he consumed would have been several. When he was heard in the Portimão court, Brueckner admitted that a decade earlier, when he was just 17, he was convicted of theft and sexual offense in Germany. In fact, he raped a child. In 2004, Irish HB filed a complaint for a violation almost equal to that of DM, only in Praia da Rocha, in this development near the Casino for which C. Brueckner had a customer card, and when Hazel heard Diana's story, she realized that it could only be the same rapist, a light-eyed individual who was hooded and embarrassed he gave her a knife, tied her with ropes, cut her clothes and then filmed the crime. In both cases, separated only by a year apart, the breaches were followed by theft, with no fingerprints or DNA signs, at least at the time. The case of DM, which we consulted in the court of Lagos, was only resolved thanks to 6 traces of DNA, which already with the crime of rape prescribed in Portugal, were sent to Germany 13 years later when they were about to be destroyed. They matched Brueckner's genetic profile and served to condemn him. But here, none of these crimes have been solved. De HB, violated when she was 20, already expired in Portugal in 2014, but DNA evidence was destroyed as early as 2007, after the Portimão Public Prosecutor's Office considered it unlikely to reopen the investigation."
*beware of the words rape and violacion. Translation mixes them up and doesn't always get it right.

 

[sleuth-d-]

Google translate
"Sexta ás 9" Ep.23 26: 45/28: 50
"Jon Clarke, editor of Olive Press in Spain, was the only journalist who was able to speak on the phone with Brueckner's cellmate. The description of the video he made does not coincide with the violation of this 73-year-old American, by which Chiristian Brueckner he was convicted in Germany last year, but the existence of the video and the concern he showed in destroying it strengthens the thesis that he used to capture the violations he consumed would have been several. When he was heard in the Portimão court, Brueckner admitted that a decade earlier, when he was just 17, he was convicted of theft and sexual offense in Germany. In fact, he raped a child. In 2004, Irish HB filed a complaint for a violation almost equal to that of DM, only in Praia da Rocha, in this development near the Casino for which C. Brueckner had a customer card, and when Hazel heard Diana's story, she realized that it could only be the same rapist, a light-eyed individual who was hooded and embarrassed he gave her a knife, tied her with ropes, cut her clothes and then filmed the crime. In both cases, separated only by a year apart, the breaches were followed by theft, with no fingerprints or DNA signs, at least at the time. The case of DM, which we consulted in the court of Lagos, was only resolved thanks to 6 traces of DNA, which already with the crime of rape prescribed in Portugal, were sent to Germany 13 years later when they were about to be destroyed. They matched Brueckner's genetic profile and served to condemn him. But here, none of these crimes have been solved. De HB, violated when she was 20, already expired in Portugal in 2014, but DNA evidence was destroyed as early as 2007, after the Portimão Public Prosecutor's Office considered it unlikely to reopen the investigation."
*beware of the words rape and violacion. Translation mixes them up and doesn't always get it right.

so in the voiceover Sandra F is talking about both attacks. HB and the american woman. thank you for clearing that up.

 

[Lyndaloo]

I had asked before on WS about RS. Unfortunately there was no answer. Perhaps now someone can answer?
What is known about RS besides that one link of nf on facetime?

Why do some sleuthers think he's Italian?

I’m not sure either why everyone believes his name as R. Scott, I think it’s due to the social media link...but that could have been made anytime since using that name as a deflection. Do we even know he’s Italian? I’ve only seen that mentioned by LS (owner of Foral). I don’t even think the photo of the dark haired couple are NF & RS. I think Romans surname still could start with an S & I don’t believe RS was ever NF bf, I know everyone won’t agree but that’s my opinion.

 

[NoSI]

Google is really listing CB’s house as a “tourist attraction”?!
Classy...

Omg! This is outrageous? A tourist attraction? (picks up jaw from floor)

 

[Chiatos]

Well, we're on #11 now, and it has, or he has been mentioned previously, so it will of been on a thread, and you would need to go back through them all, I can't help any more than that, I also think their are people from different countries on here, so the time difference can effect when people are on to reply, hope that helps

OK, thanks, maybe a good idea.
I've looked: first mention of R is in thread #3 with a link to the Olive Press; Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #3
EXCLUSIVE: Footage of property where paedophile and suspect Christian Brueckner lived in the months after Madeleine McCann disappeared from Portugal - Olive Press News Spain
No mention of him being Italian.

Then there is a mention of a certain Roman in the files: P.J. POLICE FILES: CAROLYN KISH
Who does not bare the surname Scott. So this is another Roman? And where does the surname Scott come from?

In thread #9 there is mention of a surname "Scott". Where did that come from?
Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #9

I’m not sure either why everyone believes his name as R. Scott, I think it’s due to the social media link...but that could have been made anytime since using that name as a deflection. Do we even know he’s Italian? I’ve only seen that mentioned by LS (owner of Foral). I don’t even think the photo of the dark haired couple are NF & RS. I think Romans surname still could start with an S & I don’t believe RS was ever NF bf, I know everyone won’t agree but that’s my opinion.

Did LS say he was Italian? Do you have a link?

 

[Muebles]

Bienvenidos, Muebles

According to his “best friend”, he turned up in Orgiva at the end of May/start of June.

“Within weeks of three-year-old Madeleine’s abduction Christian B followed him to Orgiva, Andalucia.

Tatschl said: “In late May or early June he arrived in Spain with his big American camper van. He knew I had connections to the marijuana world and could help him make money.”

Ex-cellmate of Madeleine McCann suspect tells cops Christian B is guilty

ETA - thank you for taking the time to look through your old photographs, that’s exactly what HCW/BKA have been asking for. If you do come across anything, there are German posters here that I’m sure will be more than happy to advise you how to contact the relevant authorities.

Thanks

 

[Muebles]

The place where he visited his friend MT in late may/june 2007 was called ‘the German field’ a mini commune of hippies and camper vans. You can see it in the centre of this map. This date was the recollection of the friend MT.
18418 Los Tablones, Granada, Spain
Google Maps

Thanks

 

[redplanet]

1. This report states that German police obtained CB's 2007 mobile number from their own German investigation (this completely differs from other reports which state the number was discovered from a resort employee's contact list).
Christian Brueckner identified as suspect in McCann case after Met's call log breakthrough | Daily Mail Online

 

[redplanet]

IMO it would help our WS investigations if we could know exactly at what location CB slept on night of 2 May, and on night of 3 May.