Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #13

[Tim N]

Yes, there is a limit on MM case. They have several months left.

According to my brief reading of the general legal code and the SOL law in my own country it appears that the SOL applies to mainly civil matters.
It is used for some summary criminal matters though.

The SOL's dont apply to serious matters and if they are applied, its on a case by case basis.

When the SOL does expire for criminal cases, the convicting court loses jurisdiction- it doesnt mean the person cant be charged again or for further charges.

At any time charges can still be brought forward.

it appears to me that the SOL is there to reduce the workload due to less serious, and civil matters and to avoid misuse of the system. .

 

[Tim N]

I tried joining in discussions on another discussion forum, to remain unnamed, but too many people there were either clueless or focused on theories that the parents were responsible for MM’s death.

that was my story!!. i wonder if its the same place?

 

[Tim N]

just to address the few recent comments about the forum getting tied up in conspiracy theories.

i know i'd like to be able to view the forum in some sort of filter that focuses on the known facts, and is essentially (as mendel put it, a newsfeed), a timeline.

It's really not practical as these forums are supposed to be largely automated. Some times people post timelines and such but they get out dated pretty quickly during an ongoing case and often dont get updated.

It would be good if perhaps an article posted or linked could be somehow tagged and those tagged form a kind of chronological sticky for released information.

 

[Tim N]

I can't remember how wide internet usage would have been in 2007. But a ready market for vile videos might have operated.

great post.. my rebuttal..i agree on the dark web money making and i think he has video of more than is known- probably MM being killed and worse.
i think thats on the USB stick and where he cant be determined, and the adults in the video are carefully disguised (after all its destined for the internet).

But what of the much earlier incidents he's been implicated in?..
as far back as 95 in the Algarve...in 1995 the internet wasnt like it is today, ..and he seemed to come of some kind of revenue around 1996/7, 2007/8, 2015. Some theories suggest payment was in the form of drugs, and in order to get his money he ran back and forth to Germany.

A bloke with no real job that appears top be able to eek out a living but seems to be able to afford a few properties, or have ownership in a few, a mobile home, jag ( as it was/is), and can hold down a drug habit (which would be his biggest cost). its got me wondering thats for sure.

post 2007 his money making could very well be for sharing, or perhaps he progressed from just selling or murdering pre dark web and can now share AND sell?..

snu** would fetch huge $ and over a long period of time i wouldve thought. its fkn insane writing this . what an absolute c**t.

 

[Tim N]

I was referring to an ex girlfriend interviewed by the daily mail. I did make a mistake. I have searched and searched previous threads looking.
I can say tho KY had no reference to anything related to jelly on my behalf.

lol. it was a bit lame compared to your earlier reply i must admit.

 

[Sharkbite]

The photo of NF and RN? on the beach could be in the Alicante, Spain area judging by the tlf# on the building behind 96 is the area code for that area. I don't think its a Portuguese#. This needs confirmed and I'm too lazy atm.
Just for fun while you are at it, compare the artists impression of one of the charity beggars wearing a brown jacket and jeans with RN? in the photo.

 

[worldwatcher]

I'm thinking about the burglary theory that went differently as soon as the perp. saw MM.
Imo this is not the case because I have never read anything about missing items, it could also be that it was never published because of perpetrator knowledge?

 

[Sharkbite]

Anyone for a Blue Bedford van anno 2006

 

[BanTheSun]

The photo of NF and RN? on the beach could be in the Alicante, Spain area judging by the tlf# on the building behind 96 is the area code for that area. I don't think its a Portuguese#. This needs confirmed and I'm too lazy atm.
Just for fun while you are at it, compare the artists impression of one of the charity beggars wearing a brown jacket and jeans with RN? in the photo.

Any links to pics ?

 

[BanTheSun]

2 man job?

I would say definite. Chances of scratching/ breaking screen.
If left via window and not door

 

[BanTheSun]

The photo of NF and RN? on the beach could be in the Alicante, Spain area judging by the tlf# on the building behind 96 is the area code for that area. I don't think its a Portuguese#. This needs confirmed and I'm too lazy atm.
Just for fun while you are at it, compare the artists impression of one of the charity beggars wearing a brown jacket and jeans with RN? in the photo.

I believe that is the beach view restaurant in the old town of Albufeira.
Looking at blue building from beach. There is now escalators to the right. Which take you up the cliff face.

 

[BanTheSun]

Cafe Oceano Restaurant.

 

[BanTheSun]

I believe that is the beach view restaurant in the old town of Albufeira.
Looking at blue building from beach. There is now escalators to the right. Which take you up the cliff face.

I Could be wrong here sorry. But it sure does look similar

 

[Officer Dibble]

It does seem like it was the done thing to turn a blind eye, at least at the time. I hope not, but if Amaral was typical of the bosses you can see why.
But then again, Hazel was told to “keep quiet or the tourists won’t come” so it sounds like it was standard practice in the Algarve.

Dreadful

 

[BanTheSun]

Dreadful

The Pig Farmer suspect JM. Also spent time in prison for raping a british teenager in Luz. Makes you wonder whether he carried act. To order on film

 

[Officer Dibble]

Madeleine McCann prosecutors 'involved in pressure game' with prime suspect

This news item is worth a read

 

[Dlk79]

The VW Westfalia in Malaga fits my theory that CB could and would have likely gone to the Dragon Fest in Orgiva March 2007 with MT or at least met him there for the festival. It could've just been a stopover break in Malaga, or possibly to pick something up to trade at the DF.

I would suggest the photo is taken Feb/Mar 2007, although there is a possibility it could have been around June before the VW turned up in Foral again. (judging by the clothing of the reflected person its more likely Feb/Mar)

This timeline shows how this would work to fit with the sightings of CB together with the vehicles from DF, MT and AD

DEC 06 - CB/MT released. MT Xmas in Austria.
FEB - MT meets CB in BSJ (VW)
MAR - CB and or ? drive VW to Orgiva - ( VW Malaga?)
APR - CB drives back to Foral in the Motorhome (DF sighting)
-----------MAY 03 2007---------!
MAY - CB drives the Motorhome back to Orgiva (MT sigting)
JUN - CB drives VW back to Foral - (VW Malaga?) (AD sighting)
JUL - CB finds missing 'pregnant' girl in Lagos
JUL/AUG? - Pregnant girl goes awol again. CB disappears from Foral shortly after.

This timeline suggests the motorhome originally came from Orgiva. The motorhome could have of course come from a much closer source in Borrocal. Somehow it turned up in CB's life between MT meeting him in BSJ in Feb and DF meeting CB in Foral "in the months before" MM went missing. That is a very small window of time to get yourself a motorhome, especially when you've just got out of prison and have lost everything and living in a campervan.

I know this goes against some of MT's statement, but OK! MT also mentioned that CB headed to Germany after Orgiva, so either CB went to Germany and back to Foral before June, or CB didn't tell MT the truth about where he was going, or that MT was not telling the truth.

How did MT get to Austria and then back to Portugal and then to onto Orgiva. What vehicle was he using?

Worthy to note that only DF, MT (and his mate pop) and also AB* have ever seen CB with the motorhome.
*AB does say a caravan, he also mentions that CB used to hitch it to his Jag (I know, I know ) and drive north, maybe something lost in translation somewhere. Although possible, dragging a Jag behind a 30ft motorhome does seems a bit far fetched to me.

Anyway that's the short version

JMO but I think it's more likely the Allegro motorhome was picked up somewhere in Germany. In the piece by DF he says the vehicle had Hannover licence plates on it when he saw it. Due to the way licence plates are used and registered in Germany, it means either the previous owner was a resident of Hannover, or CB had it registered under some Hannover address when he bought it. Later pictures seen of the vehicle show it with Augsburg plates, most likely re-registered when he moved back to that area. Although, saying that, it wouldn't surprise me if he picked it up with through his German pal BP either.

I personally don't think CB went to the Dragon festival in the March IMO. I don't see why MT wouldn't have just said so if he had. He implies he left CB back in Portugal and didn't see him again until late May/early June.

 

[BanTheSun]

Madeleine McCann prosecutors 'involved in pressure game' with prime suspect

Deep down I believe there is others than CB. A ring involved. My hoping is he will crack. And name drop his partners in crime/customers. As some sort of bargaining plea.

This news item is worth a read

 

[peanutJelly]

I would say definite. Chances of scratching/ breaking screen.
If left via window and not door

I think he had a habit of breaking into windows then leaving by a door

 

[BanTheSun]

I Could be wrong here sorry. But it sure does look similar

Google Louisiana restaurant

The photo of NF and RN? on the beach could be in the Alicante, Spain area judging by the tlf# on the building behind 96 is the area code for that area. I don't think its a Portuguese#. This needs confirmed and I'm too lazy atm.
Just for fun while you are at it, compare the artists impression of one of the charity beggars wearing a brown jacket and jeans with RN? in the photo.

It's very similar to the Louisiana bar & restaurant Albufeira Old town .I just Googled.
But I cant guarantee for sure. Whether this was a very early pic. Before area and building works took place.