Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #14

[Dlk79]

Yes, fire would be much smarter. Still he is a van lover, so maybe he was attached to that particular van.
He let the impounded Bedford go, never retrieving it from Portuguese police.

Do you know if there MSM on where the VW van went? Are they still looking for it?

Sold to BP in 2015, police retrieved it from his scrapyard and have it in their possession.

Maddie McCann suspect sold his VW campervan in 2015 to a car scrapyard

 

[Boxer]

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Sold to BP in 2015, police retrieved it from his scrapyard and have it in their possession.

Maddie McCann suspect sold his VW campervan in 2015 to a car scrapyard

Thank you. Trying to catch up.

 

[tedtink]

There was a bucket in the skip,I also read two articles claiming they found a child's bucket but it could have just been a small bucket...the things in the skip were what they were collecting,the skips (2 )were removed with items they collected in it.

I don't believe the items and all the rubble in the skip were items of interest for forensics. There would be no reason to tell the general public that a child's bucket had been found, unless purely to sensationalise the story.

I think the sole purpose of the excavation, was not to look for human remains, but was to locate any kind of data carrier, linked to CB.

IMO MM is not in Germany.

 

[Baciagalupo]

"We will not comment on this and also on how it will continue," explained Julia Meyer, spokeswoman for the responsible public prosecutor's office in Braunschweig. No press releases are planned for the coming weeks either. "For reasons of investigation we will not give any water level reports."

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[Betty_Boop88]

Have been reading all your posts and you’re amazing sleuths. The one thing that’s beginning to stand out for me is that it really feels like a business. The lack of consistent MO is almost becoming an MO in itself along with the focus on setting up camera before rape and now the cellars, all makes it feel like a dark web business. I’ve no idea how that operates but snuff movies, attacks on adults and children exist and someone has to make them. He always seemed to have plenty of money. My hunch is that he was doing it to order to make money. I’d say they have footage but no body so building up locations but in process might get more evidence of other crimes and wider ring?

Welcome to the Mad House, Maria

Yeah, the “video to order” theory definitely has merit. Unfortunately, as we already know, CP is standard on DW - but someone could generate a hell of a lot more money for child-snuff. As I’ve since found out, there’s also a huge market on DW for folk out there with “mummy-issues”, and this would tie in with his elderly rapes.
The only MO we’ve been able to establish on here is that he preys on the most vulnerable in society, which Mark T. Hofmann (profiler) has since confirmed in a recent article. This is where a lot of interest seems to be focused on on DW; overpowering/controlling the vulnerable.

Apologies to you all, but it is what it is.

 

[Lilly b]

Agree. There is no way yet to predict the scope of possible murders.

Km said a small dog bit her leg when she was jogging I think?

 

[Cazb78]

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Thanks. Hard to get a feeling either way with that statement then. I was hopeful we’d hear something.

 

[Boxer]

So a German bought the VW van for 5000€ and then let deteriorate parked as scrap?
Sounds fraudulent in some way.

 

[Boxer]

I don't believe the items and all the rubble in the skip were items of interest for forensics. There would be no reason to tell the general public that a child's bucket had been found, unless purely to sensationalise the story.

I think the sole purpose of the excavation, was not to look for human remains, but was to locate any kind of data carrier, linked to CB.

IMO MM is not in Germany.

Doubt any items of evidence would be transported in that way. But the leftovers from the search, "waste" to be reviewed again by another team might be.

 

[Dlk79]

So a German bought the VW van for 5000€ and then let deteriorate parked as scrap?
Sounds fraudulent in some way.

There's a number of things about BP that don't seem right. There was however this article (and similar others) with quotes from his son about the vehicle:

The son of the German scrap dealer who bought a VW camper van from the McCann suspect told how police turned up last year to take it away for forensic examination.

He said Brueckner would occasionally leave the van at their premises but in 2015 sold it to his father for £4,500.

Last year Portuguese police seized the vehicle.

The son, who did not want to be named, said: ‘Christian sold my dad the van around 2015 and we used it afterwards as our family vehicle.

‘It was a little rusty but had a good engine.

Maddie McCann suspect sold his VW campervan in 2015 to a car scrapyard - Culture - ReadSector

 

[tedtink]

Can any of our German speakers translate this interview today from Mark Hofmann -/ Criminal Profiler please?
May have some info here.
Thanks.

 

[SuperdadV8]

Profiler says, L.E. needs forensic evidence, although the circumstances lead to a verdict. Even he is surprised, of L.E.'s strategy.

My opinion due to facts. He is a great profiler, but due to private interests in his work, he is NOT involved in the case by L.E.. He was involved by "BILD".

He does not know, what aim prosecuters are heading to. IMO same level we are discussing by now.

 

[Ardoch]

Why would he keep children's clothing in his motorhome with his past convictions?
Madeleine suspect ‘kept children’s swimwear in mobile home’
Why would he keep children's clothing - if he has, in an allotment and not burn them on a fire on the plot?
Why leave possible incriminating items lying around in his past properties?
If he wanted to keep trophies, he was taking a chance. JMO
I'm no expert sleuther by any stretch but I can't get any pattern here at all.

 

[Mandalas]

@Mandalas - just so I understand your 'does this feel different to moments in the past?' query, are you asking that specifically about the investigation/s over the years into the disappearance of MM?

Yes, exactly that. I know it's highly speculative and subjective, and not necessarily in the spirit of sleuthing, but there's a lot to be said for hunches IMO, especially from those who have been watching the case from the outset. I'm not sure any previous suspects linked to the MM case have had such prominence or length of time in the public eye?

I would be very concerned about the state of our justice/media complex if CB turned out to be innocent of these crimes that he is directly or indirectly being linked to.

 

[tedtink]

Profiler says, L.E. needs forensic evidence, although the circumstances lead to a verdict. Even he is surprised, of L.E.'s strategy.

My opinion due to facts. He is a great profiler, but due to private interests in his work, he is NOT involved in the case by L.E.. He was involved by "BILD".

He does not know, what aim prosecuters are heading to. IMO same level we are discussing by now.

Thank you for translation.
Yes, I realise that, but I'm more interested if he had anything to say about CB profile.
I know we like to Sleuth about the evidence on here and speculate about other stuff. but I'm more interested in CB's psych profile than anything as this gives valuable insight into his crimes and possibly MM case.

 

[tedtink]

Why would he keep children's clothing in his motorhome with his past convictions?
Madeleine suspect ‘kept children’s swimwear in mobile home’
Why would he keep children's clothing - if he has, in an allotment and not burn them on a fire on the plot?
Why leave possible incriminating items lying around in his past properties?
If he wanted to keep trophies, he was taking a chance. JMO
I'm no expert sleuther by any stretch but I can't get any pattern here at all.

To gain a better understanding, this article is V good for starters

"No matter how much the pedophile has, he never has enough; and he rarely throws anything away"

We must not forget that CB likely had an pathological "obsession" - This is why SO many images etc have been found and I'm sure there is lots more.

https://ccoso.org/sites/default/files/import/Lanning---molestor-behavior-analysis.pdf

 

[enjy15]

Why would he keep children's clothing in his motorhome with his past convictions?
Madeleine suspect ‘kept children’s swimwear in mobile home’
Why would he keep children's clothing - if he has, in an allotment and not burn them on a fire on the plot?
Why leave possible incriminating items lying around in his past properties?
If he wanted to keep trophies, he was taking a chance. JMO
I'm no expert sleuther by any stretch but I can't get any pattern here at all.

He got away with things for so long he probably got complacent. He seems to enjoy bragging about his crimes and reliving them through his trophies and recordings. Even with the CP files found on his USB drive, he threw the USB stick out but didn’t delete the files or completely dispose of it even though he was in some of the videos himself. He has some attachment to his trophies and recordings it seems. He can’t seem to bring himself to destroy it

 

[SuperdadV8]

Why would he keep children's clothing in his motorhome with his past convictions?
Madeleine suspect ‘kept children’s swimwear in mobile home’
Why would he keep children's clothing - if he has, in an allotment and not burn them on a fire on the plot?
Why leave possible incriminating items lying around in his past properties?
If he wanted to keep trophies, he was taking a chance. JMO
I'm no expert sleuther by any stretch but I can't get any pattern here at all.

Look at the Fritzl-Case! There was maybe not just a sexual purpose, although that monster fathered many children! That sicko kept a whole family including kids with his own daughter for 24 years in a cellar, that has just been built for that purpose. He built up a whole "family" due to incest. By the way, he had also to care about.

Why small swimsuits? What was the purpose? Put them on by himself? I don't think so! C.B. felt connected to Portugal. Nice climate, nice beaches, easy living due to a tourist spot. Nobody cares a lot to your own (maybe also fu**ed up past and..) life. At some age, women were maybe not that easy to "handle" as it may fit his sick point of view. His face is pockmarked or whatever it is. Trauma since he was a child at an oprhanage, right?

I don't know - and really don't want to understand a peados mind - what goes on in their heads! But i could imagine, some lazy-romantic, undisturbed easy going at the beach with a small one, maybe might be a nice imagination for one of them!

Just like normal people sometimes imagine, how great it would be, being at a romantic caribbean spot with their person of interest?! Keeping memories, souvenirs or what even else....?!

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Yeah, this goes through my mind too. I have no idea and no intention to find out what they do to these children, but about 10 years ago I had job where I invited professionals in to talk to current undergraduates. One was a criminal psychologist working in the prison service and I asked her about Madeleine. She said it’s likely she was killed within two hours and that it’s not always that the perpetrator intends to kill them, it’s what they DO to them that kills them. At that point I shut my brain off. Doesn’t bare thinking about

Thank you for sharing your haunting experience Caz. Just hearing what was said had to disturb you greatly.

Cases involving pedophiles aren't for the faint of heart.

Yes, the studies state from the time of abducting the child victim,and murdering them is between 45 minutes to two hours after the initial abduction took place.

It also states the average time between the time the child first went missing, and when 911 is called is on average of two hours so the child victim is most likely already deceased before reported missing

I've read extensively for decades now about sexual predators, both adult rapists, and pedophiles who are also murderers. I've been on true crime blogs since 1992.

Unfortunately through the decades I've read or posted about many cases where pedophiles have kidnapped, defiled, and murdered the most innocent in society.

Many of those tragic cases have been discussed at great length right here on WS with many of our posters who followed those cases in great detail all the way to the trial ended.

But these paedophiles do exist so we must recognize it for what it is for they are truly the worst of the worst.

While this particular child predator is being held in Germany we have seen our own tragic cases here.

Imo, the worst sadist pedophile in our country's recent history is Joseph Duncan. He was a serial pedophile, and murderer of several defenseless children.

His victims were both little boys, and girls. Thank goodness he is on death row in the federal system. He also murdered two adults, and one muscular male teen just so he could come in their home, and be able to kidnap Dylan, and Shasta Greone. Little Shasta was only 8 years old at the time, but so strong. She told LE everything in great detail what he did to them both for weeks before murdering Dylan. As most know Duncan video taped all of the continuous daily sadistic tortures, rapes, and also videoed Dylan being murdered. She was able to unmask how evil, and deviant he was. I'm sure the FBI profilers have study JD very closely as well.

It shows how determined they are to carryout their premeditated plans.

It's truly scary reading about these kind of offenders, but this is the way the profilers know many times who to look for, and what each one's tendencies, and individual traits may likely be.

Jmho

 

[Betty_Boop88]

You appear to know the in's and out's of such operations to the finest detail. That is very disturbing in itself.

Cheers Boss

We’re trying to figure out the MO of a paedo here. A quick Google search - Google, not DW - will quickly enlighten you.
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