Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #18

[misty48]

Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood @22.54: "We're almost certain now this sighting is not the abductor".

There is a legal difference between an abductor & an accomplice.

 

[MENDEL]

There is a legal difference between an abductor & an accomplice.

You must tell that to Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood.

 

[peanutJelly]

This 'mentor' theory.
What is meant by that?
I really don't understand why CB would have had or have needed a mentor.
IMO he would have acted on his own sexual urges and sexual fantasies that would have been specific to him and his own personality.
Nobody can mentor someone how to FEEL, let alone act on those feelings.

I think it relates more to whether CB had anyone who helped/advised him how to get opportunities to act on those urges. At least that’s what I’m interpreting is meant here by mentor, someone more experienced who could help him get away with bad stuff. If he did, I don’t think it’s BP

 

[SuperdadV8]

Mendel is right!

Let's be honest! What kid (!) by the age of nineteen, decides to got to portugal, and than drifts for at least 20 years?!

 

[MENDEL]

Mendel is right!

Let's be honest! What kid (!) by the age of nineteen, decides to got to portugal, and than drifts for at least 20 years?!

Super, when did I say that? Are you ironic or something? If that's a joke you have a LMFAO.

 

[tedtink]

I think it relates more to whether CB had anyone who helped/advised him how to get opportunities to act on those urges. At least that’s what I’m interpreting is meant here by mentor, someone more experienced who could help him get away with bad stuff. If he did, I don’t think it’s BP

I think BP MAY have been a good friend, maybe took CB under his wing, tinkered with cars etc and may have played a 'role' in CB's life (if that's what some call a mentor). After all we know how AB stepped into that 'caring' role very quickly after CB arrived in Germany in 2007.
The sexual stuff, however, there were plenty of opportunities, especially living by the sea - CB would have been well aware of where to seek out children imo and it seems LE had a hand in letting him get away with it.

 

[Dlk79]

Mentor is not a very precise term. If there was one, BP might be the one in my opinion as I explained. If you have a better hypothesis please move forward.

"he might" is not the same as "we know" though is it? Indeed, he might be. He might also have just been a friend. Or CB might have had something over him which explains his good deeds. Or he might just be a thoroughly nice guy, willing to help people in need. Or CB might just have been using BP and his stable reputation (in comparison to his other acquaintances) for his own ends. They might just be criminal partners. I wouldn't be so bold as to say I "know" which (if any) of these are true since there is currently not enough evidence available to say.

 

[MENDEL]

"he might" is not the same as "we know" though is it? Indeed, he might be. He might also have just been a friend. Or CB might have had something over him which explains his good deeds. Or he might just be a thoroughly nice guy, willing to help people in need. Or CB might just have been using BP and his stable reputation (in comparison to his other acquaintances) for his own ends. They might just be criminal partners. I wouldn't be so bold as to say I "know" which (if any) of these are true since there is currently not enough evidence available to say.

DLK, I updated my post and I think my contribution about a mentor is exhausted. I wanted to be kind and help its author with a hypothesis for him to work out. That's all.

 

[SuperdadV8]

Super, when did I say that? Are you ironic or something? If that's a joke you have a LMFAO.

Nothing that i have ever said or wrote has been ironic, dear Mendel!!!

Everything i put in here was a result of a father of two children, who could imagine that losing one of them might be the worst experience, to imagine. And also i was as a former prosecuter.

I will take my assumptions out for some time by now! I think that fits, because the case is special.

According to HCW, let us keep assuming after 2021!

I'm concerned, that this case will lead to an end, just to bring peace to the parents.

 

[snowpea666]

That man must be nuts, but it would be nice checking his secret FB.

If he has another FB could you or someone send me it please?

 

[MENDEL]

Nothing that i have ever said or wrote has been ironic, dear Mendel!!!

Everything i put in here was a result of a father of two children, who could imagine that losing one of them might be the worst experience, to imagine. And also i was as a former prosecuter.

I will take my assumptions out for some time by now! I think that fits, because the case is special.

According to HCW, let us keep assuming after 2021!

I'm concerned, that this case will lead to an end, just to bring peace to the parents.

As a respectful father perhaps you should clean my name from something not authored by me.

It's understandable that you may be upset because I asked you for a link you didn't offer, but again please act like a respectful father.

 

[onemoremiletogo]

Great!
Thanks for posting.
Can you help with translation on Friday evening please?

Sure @tedtink! Well, I'll try....obviously I'm not a native English speaker nor fluent. My English is not that good, but I'll do my best!

 

[SuperdadV8]

As a respectful father perhaps you should clean my name from something not authored by me.

It's understandable that you may be upset because I asked you for a link you didn't offer, but again please act like a respectful father.

Not upset in any way! Never mind!

Just let us see, where investigations will lead to!

 

[Victoria Chambers]

Likely yes!

But what, maybe professional abductor, would carry the victim around town at "primetime"? Does it make sense?

It makes sense if MM was targeted and the routine of the Tapas group was noted. It seems she was targeted and taken almost as soon as GM left the apartment. The group went back and forth, back and forth all week, never diverting that same route (out into the streets) Just in, out and back to their table. It makes sense to me for a professional burglar/abductor to enter via the window and leave via the front door, out onto the street (albeit, into a vehicle) moving away from the Tapas Bar. MM also conveniently vanished at a time when other adults were on the same street after collecting children from OC Crèche. Nobody would have really 'stood out' But blended right in IMO X

 

[mrjitty]

But at present CB is safely behind bars. He can't harm anyone and he can't escape. So there is no immediate imperative to charge and huge incentive to keep building a case before it has to go to the defence lawyer.

I am kind of sceptical there are many advantages in not having to make discovery at this stage.

The issue is they don't have the evidence they need. This isn't some kind of tactic to keep things secret.

 

[mrjitty]

I think FF is preparing his defence of CB, and to do that he is looking for enough evidence that someone else could be guilty to provide reasonable doubt.

Absolutely.

That's always been the issue for any prosecution in this case with no body. The accused has a pre-pack defence that MM may not even be dead, and the existence of the global search effort and sightings down the years provides doubt that she even is dead.

So proof of death is vital, before we even get to the laundry list of suspects.

 

[mrjitty]

I think this is a good quote from FF.

It's what has troubled me from the start.

"It is not comprehensible how a public prosecutor's office can repeatedly approach the media and make statements like: 'We are firmly convinced that Christian B is the right person and the perpetrator and killed this girl', but then at the same time we are told that they don't have the crucial evidence.

“This is for me a contradiction in itself."

Madeleine McCann prime suspect's lawyer says 'I'd never let him near my kids'

 

[mrjitty]

What could mean, he seems to turn away from former claims, that there will never be a charge against his client. Hard to think he visited portugal just to check the location and doing "bit of own investigation".

His client spoke about something to him. I'm pretty sure of that.

One other possibility would be to speak with PJ, and get the status of their investigation. If PJ have other suspects, then that could be very helpful to the defence.

 

[mrjitty]

I never heard UK police dismiss Tannerman as a POI and the image still appears on the Find Madeleine website to this day.
DCI Redwood on Crimewatch 2013
"We’re almost certain, now, that this sighting is not the abductor. But very importantly, what it says is that from 9.15, we are able to allow the clock
to move forward and in doing so, things that have not been quite as significant or received quite the same degree of attention are now the centre of our focus."

Abductor = CB
Accomplice = Tannerman.
MOO for a very long time.

The significance of DCI Redwood's statement, is that ruling out tannerman solves the clock problem. Whether or not Tannerman was an accomplice, the time of the sighting is difficult. Once he is removed, you open up as much as 45 mins for the abduction

 

[mrjitty]

There is a legal difference between an abductor & an accomplice.

Not really

An accomplice carrying MM would also be an abductor